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Old 6 August 2017, 06:35 PM   #1
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Will you pay extra $50 euro for pink/electric blue Pepsi over normal Pepsi bezel?

Dear all,

I was looking for a Pepsi insert for my 16700. Came across a dealer who have NOS for normal Pepsi and a nicely faded NOS pink/electric blue Pepsi. Based on the photos below, is it worth the $50 euro premium?

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Old 6 August 2017, 07:53 PM   #2
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I would.
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Old 6 August 2017, 07:53 PM   #3
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Do you pay extra for worn out Jeans with holes?
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Old 6 August 2017, 08:43 PM   #4
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Personally I am no fan of that kind of fade. I prefer a faded blue and a crisp red rather than the opposite. If not evenly faded.

For 500€ I think the most important thing is that you get what you like the most.
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Old 6 August 2017, 09:46 PM   #5
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Sure, in the big picture what does it matter if it is what you want.
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Old 6 August 2017, 10:58 PM   #6
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Thanks for the comments so far. Does it look genuine to you guys?
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Old 6 August 2017, 11:14 PM   #7
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Not a fan of faded dials and no I do not buy worn jeans with holes.
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Old 7 August 2017, 12:29 AM   #8
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The insert is genuine.
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Old 7 August 2017, 12:30 AM   #9
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Yes, it's worth an extra 50 Euros, especially if it's an original faded fat font versus a service Pepsi insert. What's the total price?
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Old 7 August 2017, 01:02 AM   #10
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Old 7 August 2017, 01:13 AM   #11
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I like it, if you like it buy it. You're splitting hairs with your 50 euros, there is no MSRP on vintage... negotiate...

Also, I dont follow the "jeans with holes" metaphor.
1. if you dont like patina and fade then you probably are in the wrong forum. Even a true NOS piece will likely have some dial/hands patina
2. This insert would not be jeans with holes it would just be faded jeans, something Im guessing we have all bought. Within the last year.
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Old 7 August 2017, 01:39 AM   #12
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If you like it €50 is certainly worth it
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Old 7 August 2017, 02:51 AM   #13
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Also, I dont follow the "jeans with holes" metaphor.
It was a dumb comment.

Sorry, Mon.
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Old 7 August 2017, 03:05 AM   #14
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It was a dumb comment.

Sorry, Mon.
Yes I know it was but come on, ask if it's worth 50 bucks more?
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Old 7 August 2017, 03:06 PM   #15
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Yes I know it was but come on, ask if it's worth 50 bucks more?
So VERY true!
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Old 7 August 2017, 04:34 PM   #16
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What's the original price of this 16700 insert?
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Old 7 August 2017, 07:17 PM   #17
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I would spend the extra, in the big scheme of things it's not a great deal of money for that patina, and should you decide to sell, provided it's genuine, you should recoup your money.
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Old 7 August 2017, 11:51 PM   #18
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How much are the inserts selling for ?, If you don't mind letting me know . I know lots of collectors who absolutely will pay premium money, for faded inserts etc & if that's what appeals to you then its worth every penny paid . I think new inserts from AD in UK are about £75.00 . But here's a thought, Wouldn't you prefer a new insert, & then all the Patina is down to you wearing the watch over time . Just a thought .
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How much are the inserts selling for ?, If you don't mind letting me know . I know lots of collectors who absolutely will pay premium money, for faded inserts etc & if that's what appeals to you then its worth every penny paid . I think new inserts from AD in UK are about £75.00 . But here's a thought, Wouldn't you prefer a new insert, & then all the Patina is down to you wearing the watch over time . Just a thought .
As far as vintage goes, continuity is important, even with NOS.... You need the piece to show its age in a uniform way. To me, and I think I speak for everyone here, a worn case, patina'd dial with a brand new insert is an abomination.
Fortunately you can source something period correct fairly easily.

Also, I'm not sure how patient you are but a good 20+yrs to get a little fade is a long time to wait.
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Old 8 August 2017, 02:25 AM   #21
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Certainly worth it in my opinion. Looks great.
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Old 8 August 2017, 05:13 AM   #22
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As far as vintage goes, continuity is important, even with NOS.... You need the piece to show its age in a uniform way. To me, and I think I speak for everyone here, a worn case, patina'd dial with a brand new insert is an abomination.
Fortunately you can source something period correct fairly easily.

Also, I'm not sure how patient you are but a good 20+yrs to get a little fade is a long time to wait.
I agree totally with your comments & would pay extra too for the watch to look correct for its age . And not sure I will be here in 20+ either, and again it was just a thought given I haven't seen any pictures of the 16700 .So the dial may have absolutely no patina at all . I have 1999 16700 & I'm pretty sure there's not much patina on the dial .
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I agree totally with your comments & would pay extra too for the watch to look correct for its age . And not sure I will be here in 20+ either, and again it was just a thought given I haven't seen any pictures of the 16700 .So the dial may have absolutely no patina at all . I have 1999 16700 & I'm pretty sure there's not much patina on the dial .
Totally agree and pics would help a lot. Your 16700 is likely a luminova piece and who knows if those will patina with age at all... time will tell!
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Old 8 August 2017, 05:39 AM   #24
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I'm a fan of the pink
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Looks nice, but only you know your finances and if you can afford it.
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Totally agree and pics would help a lot. Your 16700 is likely a luminova piece and who knows if those will patina with age at all... time will tell!
Yes its a Luminova piece with WG inserts & still waiting for signs of Patina to appear . One of the best things about the 4 or 5 digit series GMT ,is the versatility & the ability to change inserts as the mood takes .
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Old 9 August 2017, 02:37 AM   #27
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Thanks everyone for the comments. It's selling for 230 euros and claimed to be faded naturally. Mine watch is a 16700 with tritium dial.

For guys dissing me off on 50 bucks, please be aware that everyone's budget is different. N the fact that i can get a service insert for just $100, make it a legitimate issue to consider to relatively significant premium.

Nonetheless, all your comments are helpful. Thank you :)
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Yes its a Luminova piece with WG inserts & still waiting for signs of Patina to appear . One of the best things about the 4 or 5 digit series GMT ,is the versatility & the ability to change inserts as the mood takes .
VERY nice!
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Thanks everyone for the comments. It's selling for 230 euros and claimed to be faded naturally. Mine watch is a 16700 with tritium dial.

For guys dissing me off on 50 bucks, please be aware that everyone's budget is different. N the fact that i can get a service insert for just $100, make it a legitimate issue to consider to relatively significant premium.

Nonetheless, all your comments are helpful. Thank you :)
You are correct, apologies.
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Old 9 August 2017, 02:57 AM   #30
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I would go for pink and yes I pay more for ripped jeans.

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