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Ba Ba · 28 April 2018, 01:08 PM

A good friend is asking me to choose between 5131 and 5711. His AD offers one of these two models after he spend tones of money on jewellery to his wife.

Here are some questions he asked and I want your opinion:

- he will wear either of them as a daily watch
- he has no intention to flip
- he is not a watch guy. He owns couple Datejust
- I know him long enough he will abuse any watch he wears. He treats watch as a tool.
- he already said he will not sell me either of these watches :0)

Given all the info my immediate response is still 5131 because it's a collectors item. He can continue to wear his datejust. What do you think? This is a good dilemma to me if it ever happened

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codecow · 28 April 2018, 01:12 PM

5131 for sure.

subtona · 28 April 2018, 01:28 PM

I would rather wear a 5711

Sam Philip · 28 April 2018, 01:30 PM

5131

thomaspp · 28 April 2018, 01:32 PM

Is this a joke?

Ba Ba · 28 April 2018, 02:28 PM

It's legit unless my friend fool me... but I don't see why?

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rolex_addict · 28 April 2018, 04:45 PM

5131 of course

tyler1980 · 28 April 2018, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thomaspp

Is this a joke?

especially because an AD is offering it... that means its a P

Bearxj86 · 28 April 2018, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

especially because an AD is offering it... that means its a P

I have a good relationship with my AD and got the 5711r and en route to get a 5711 blue (was offered a 5167 again the other day on bracelet). The 5131 however is on a whole different level/playing field. If this is indeed true, go for the 5131. However, get a sub or datejust since I'm not sure you really want to wear it every day.

I have a 5130r Worldtime (which is the same case and movement), its really cool and great for travelling if you're in a shirt or long sleeve. I would wear the WT to work or on a plane but under the protection of a dress cuff or sports coat. Would hesitate to bring it near water or any sporting type events. It's also not a true every day wearer due to the lack of lume.

tyler1980 · 28 April 2018, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bearxj86

Gotta be a joke. I have a good relationship with my AD and got the 5711r and enroute to get a 5711 blue. The 5131 however is on a whole different level. If this is indeed true, go for the 5131. However, get a sub since I'm not sure you really want to wear it every day.

I have a 5130r Worldtime, its really cool and great for travelling. I would wear it to work but under the protection of a dress cuff or sports coat. Would hesitate to bring it near water or any sporting type events.

AFAIK AD's can't even offer them though, right? Thats a Patek decision. Obviously the AD has a role to play in lobbying for the customer but its not their decision at the end of the day.

Bearxj86 · 28 April 2018, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

AFAIK AD's can't even offer them though, right? Thats a Patek decision. Obviously the AD has a role to play in lobbying for the customer but its not their decision at the end of the day.

What I am told is you need to be "recommended" by the AD to even be considered. I don't think it just arrives and you get one lol.

Russell996 · 28 April 2018, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

AFAIK AD's can't even offer them though, right? Thats a Patek decision. Obviously the AD has a role to play in lobbying for the customer but its not their decision at the end of the day.

UK for sure but certainly not everywhere. Even UK salon is different to UK AD’s.

codecow · 28 April 2018, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bearxj86

What I am told is you need to be "recommended" by the AD to even be considered. I don't think it just arrives and you get one lol.

I think the AD will find out from the distributor that they’re in line to get one. At that point they’re asked to submit the client’s info to Patek. Mine had the papers with my info on them when it arrived at the AD. My guess is the distributor/Geneva will not approve unless you’re known to Patek.

With that said, sometimes deals fall through and it is probably dependent on the regional distributor.

RHIII · 28 April 2018, 11:32 PM

No comment

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jon_jon · 29 April 2018, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ba Ba

A good friend is asking me to choose between 5131 and 5711. His AD offers one of these two models after he spend tones of money on jewellery to his wife.

Here are some questions he asked and I want your opinion:

- he will wear either of them as a daily watch
- he has no intention to flip
- he is not a watch guy. He owns couple Datejust
- I know him long enough he will abuse any watch he wears. He treats watch as a tool.
- he already said he will not sell me either of these watches :0)

Given all the info my immediate response is still 5131 because it's a collectors item. He can continue to wear his datejust. What do you think? This is a good dilemma to me if it ever happened

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IMO a 5711/1P vs a 5131 is more of a fair comparison. The SS 5711/1A is a hyped up watch, like the SS Daytona.

If your friend wants a 5711/1A, he can easily buy one on the secondary market, rather than spending "tons of money on jewelry".

AK797 · 29 April 2018, 01:13 AM

5131 is a good choice for him.

Andrés G · 29 April 2018, 01:34 AM

5131 if that’s even a possibility.

goog53 · 29 April 2018, 01:42 AM

5131P retails for almost 4.5x as much as a 5711/1A. I would take the 5131P as it is a work of art and the bracelet is amazing

Sam Philip · 29 April 2018, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

AFAIK AD's can't even offer them though, right? Thats a Patek decision. Obviously the AD has a role to play in lobbying for the customer but its not their decision at the end of the day.

Things are different in Asia, some ADs do offer 5131s to customers who spend a fortune on other watches and/or jewellery. I know 2 people who obtained their 5131s through an AD in that way.

GB-man · 29 April 2018, 03:59 AM

Take the 5131 and run.

dannyp · 29 April 2018, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jon_jon

IMO a 5711/1P vs a 5131 is more of a fair comparison. The SS 5711/1A is a hyped up watch, like the SS Daytona.

If your friend wants a 5711/1A, he can easily buy one on the secondary market, rather than spending "tons of money on jewelry".

Sounds like the jewelry spend is preexisting and this is simply the dealer trying to treat a good customer well.

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Originally Posted by AK797

5131 is a good choice for him.

Not based on the OP. Way too beautiful to beat up as a daily “tool” watch. Shame to do that with a 5711, tragedy to do it with a 5131.

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Take the 5131 and run.

I assume you’re telling. The OP what to do... the moment his friend gets the watch home ;)

GB-man · 29 April 2018, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dannyp

I assume you’re telling. The OP what to do... the moment his friend gets the watch home ;)

28 April 2018, 01:08 PM	#1
Ba Ba "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Here Posts: 129	5711 vs 5131 A good friend is asking me to choose between 5131 and 5711. His AD offers one of these two models after he spend tones of money on jewellery to his wife. Here are some questions he asked and I want your opinion: - he will wear either of them as a daily watch - he has no intention to flip - he is not a watch guy. He owns couple Datejust - I know him long enough he will abuse any watch he wears. He treats watch as a tool. - he already said he will not sell me either of these watches :0) Given all the info my immediate response is still 5131 because it's a collectors item. He can continue to wear his datejust. What do you think? This is a good dilemma to me if it ever happened Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 April 2018, 01:28 PM	#3
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,077	I would rather wear a 5711 __________________

28 April 2018, 01:32 PM	#5
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,136	Is this a joke? __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

29 April 2018, 01:42 AM	#18
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,064	5131P retails for almost 4.5x as much as a 5711/1A. I would take the 5131P as it is a work of art and the bracelet is amazing __________________ The only thing better than the watches are the people behind them. "The best watch in the world is the one that's on your wrist." Morgan King "Do you like having a good time? Then you need a good watch!" Rocky Balboa

29 April 2018, 03:59 AM	#20
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,004	Take the 5131 and run. __________________

28 April 2018, 01:12 PM	#2
codecow "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: PP 5131R Posts: 4,914	5131 for sure.

28 April 2018, 01:30 PM	#4
Sam Philip Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345	5131

28 April 2018, 02:28 PM	#6
Ba Ba "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Here Posts: 129	It's legit unless my friend fool me... but I don't see why? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 April 2018, 04:45 PM	#7
rolex_addict "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: . Posts: 831	5131 of course

28 April 2018, 11:32 PM	#14
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	No comment Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

29 April 2018, 01:13 AM	#16
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,304	5131 is a good choice for him.

29 April 2018, 01:34 AM	#17
Andrés G "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Guatemala Posts: 3,391	5131 if that’s even a possibility.

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