Thoughts on Acupuncture.. please read below

[Runnin' Rebel]

Acupuncture, does it help for certain internal organs, not necessarily back or shoulder pain. I believe what I have is hereditary and definitely skipped a few generations

2 things, I have ***** *******and my metabolism is at a phenomenally high level. I won't talk about my left meniscus lol cause that going to be surgery-)

Symptoms:
Normal very fast heart beat, sleeping heart rate is close to 98. Running heart 190, basketball, sex or anything that excites me off the charts. Complete restlessness trying to get to sleep, agitated, aggravated at times, (but keep that mostly under control if I breath and relax) no Thyroid nodules at this point and no goiter.

I can actually sleep 3 hours a night for 4 straight nights and be ready for a 15 hour day. Then I'll collapse in bed after that and sleep 18. Strange, although great for working while traveling around.

TSH should be at <5 and it showed a bit less then > 500, which is off the chart. T3 and T4 are also incrementally high all this causes my restlessness and agitate state at times. I eat and eat a lot and always hungry but I burn through it so fast I'm shocked. Eat again and agin consistently. At least a gallon of water a day, I'm always thirsty.

Blood pressure is a little high 170/120. Bad headaches until I started the medication to lower it. Now it's under control. I'm worried I'm just controlling the symptoms no issue with medication to control it except Tapazole.

Went to my GP yesterday and my blood pressure was 112/75 never been that low


With all this I was thinking trying to work with a certified acupuncture specialist who was trained in China for a year and went to school for three years whose now in the U.S. ( Fort Lauderdale.)

Also I was on Tapazole to reduce output of Thyroid hormones. Didn't like it at all. I'm not getting the gland burned out unless absolutely necessary, either way I'll be on medications for life.

So I'm going to think about acupuncture. Good or might work ? Even if slows down my agitation and let me fall asleep easier a bit it would great.
I'm going to give it a shot, I found well regarded and recommended acupuncturist in Recife, Brasil, FLL and Las Vegas so maybe it will work, hopefully.

I had my first session with acupuncture last week in Fort Lauderdale, he said it might take 2-3 months for effect. He's a member of NCCAOM and AMMA board certified. All the acupuncturist I will use have a mix of Ba Nutrition Science, BA in Complementary and Alternative Health and BS in Health Science. All are Big on nutrition and health and are members of NCCAOM and AMMA

Anyone with experience with Acupuncture for anything medical related ??? Did you have positives results ? I tried to explain this as best I could for people who know about this and fill in the blanks, open for suggestions
Thanks

[KDS777]

Oi Mark......

I am not a doctor, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express for 62 nights last year. (this part is true)

I had exactly all of your symptoms back in 2007/8 which flew right past our 2 family doctors who are really nothing more than prescription processors nowadays, and it took a really competent endocrinologist to diagnose me with GRAVES Disease.

I had it done while in Rio de Janeiro on holidays, because in Canada, I was getting no were within our system.

I paid about $1,000 out of my pocket, had a battery of tests and appointments with one of the top cardio's in Rio, and then the top endo clinic, all within the space of one week. This is something that you cannot get done in our medical system here in Canada at any price, unless you are literally dying in a ER. Came back to Canada with all my tests, put them on my doctor's desk during my next visit and said, get me fixed !! He spent 15 minutes reading everything, picked up the phone, and called the endo @ the university directly. I was in her office the following week.

I had basically two choices, take pills for the rest of my life and still have the problem, but just manage it until it gets worse or stays the same forever, or kills me, or go ahead and drink radioactive iodine which would kill my thyroid permanently, and solve the issue. I'd still have to take Synthroid every day for the rest of my life to maintain TSH balance, but I am cured. So that is what I did. 8 years later I am healthy and happy.

You may have something else entirely, like I said, I am not a medical professional, but from the symptoms and my personal experience, it sounds like you need a top endocrinologist to look after this, not your family MD or whoever has been in the chain of control so far.

Best.

[Grnvette65]

Thyrotoxicosis is bad. You should look at total thrroidectomy by a competent surgeon. Synthroid for life is not bad and levels are easy to manage. The persistent clinical manifestations will ultimately take a harder toll on your body( tachycardia htn etc). Don't think acupuncture will be helpful in the end. The iodine doesn't always work and has its own problems. Don't want to turn this into medical thread. Good luck.

[Chewbacca]

mark, i'm no doctor but i would say you've jumped from the GP to acupuncturist rather quickly --- you didn't even mention an MRI to see if there's a tapeworm in you (seriously, your symptoms are totally tapeworm-411... metabolism, BP, hungry, thirsty etc...).

good luck regardless.

[kid4life]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

mark, i'm no doctor but i would say you've jumped from the GP to acupuncturist rather quickly --- you didn't even mention an MRI to see if there's a tapeworm in you (seriously, your symptoms are totally tapeworm-411... metabolism, BP, hungry, thirsty etc...).

good luck regardless.

Actually his symptoms sound very typical for hyperthyroidism and looks like we was on medication to suppress his TSH levels.

[Chewbacca]

agreed, but as i said, i'm no doctor but a parasitical cause also be something to investigate.

http://www.naturalendocrinesolutions...hyroid-health/

http://thyroid-99.blogspot.ca/2010/0...h-concern.html

[kid4life]

I have treated patients with I-131 therapy for graves disease. First of, if the OP would like to pursue this further with allopathic medicine, further functional imaging with I-123 maybe of benefit. If alternative medicine therapy is sought, I am of no help.

[TheVTCGuy]

I am sorry for your challenges Mark, I am not medically trained but I DO believe in alternative treatments, including Acu Puncture. Years ago, I had a chronic cough for literally months and after numerous doctors and medicines I went to see an AP. Within about four sessions, maybe two weeks, my cough was gone. I went back for a couple other ailments and it always did seem to help. I was considering visiting him for my ulcers but I am feeling better so will hold off. My suggestion is why not try it? Really, it will not hurt anything and you might have positive results, if not, other then maybe some fees you have not lost anything.

[superdog]

I've been through similar sleep issues.

I tried acupuncture years ago for different reasons. I did not find it to be overly helpful.

Meditation however has helped me on many levels. Including my sleep.

Good luck.

[Runnin' Rebel]

Originally Posted by KDS777

Oi Mark......

I am not a doctor, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express for 62 nights last year. (this part is true)

I had exactly all of your symptoms back in 2007/8 which flew right past our 2 family doctors who are really nothing more than prescription processors nowadays, and it took a really competent endocrinologist to diagnose me with GRAVES Disease.

I had it done while in Rio de Janeiro on holidays, because in Canada, I was getting no were within our system.

I paid about $1,000 out of my pocket, had a battery of tests and appointments with one of the top cardio's in Rio, and then the top endo clinic, all within the space of one week. This is something that you cannot get done in our medical system here in Canada at any price, unless you are literally dying in a ER. Came back to Canada with all my tests, put them on my doctor's desk during my next visit and said, get me fixed !! He spent 15 minutes reading everything, picked up the phone, and called the endo @ the university directly. I was in her office the following week.

I had basically two choices, take pills for the rest of my life and still have the problem, but just manage it until it gets worse or stays the same forever, or kills me, or go ahead and drink radioactive iodine which would kill my thyroid permanently, and solve the issue. I'd still have to take Synthroid every day for the rest of my life to maintain TSH balance, but I am cured. So that is what I did. 8 years later I am healthy and happy.

You may have something else entirely, like I said, I am not a medical professional, but from the symptoms and my personal experience, it sounds like you need a top endocrinologist to look after this, not your family MD or whoever has been in the chain of control so far.

Best.

obrigado

Originally Posted by Grnvette65

Thyrotoxicosis is bad. You should look at total thrroidectomy by a competent surgeon. Synthroid for life is not bad and levels are easy to manage. The persistent clinical manifestations will ultimately take a harder toll on your body( tachycardia htn etc). Don't think acupuncture will be helpful in the end. The iodine doesn't always work and has its own problems. Don't want to turn this into medical thread. Good luck.

Thyrotoxicosis is horrible to the whole body

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

mark, i'm no doctor but i would say you've jumped from the GP to acupuncturist rather quickly --- you didn't even mention an MRI to see if there's a tapeworm in you (seriously, your symptoms are totally tapeworm-411... metabolism, BP, hungry, thirsty etc...).



good luck regardless.

Thx. I laugh so hard on the tape worm thing. Totally lol. I'm glad you prefaced your comment first

Originally Posted by kid4life

Actually his symptoms sound very typical for hyperthyroidism and looks like we was on medication to suppress his TSH levels.

Originally Posted by kid4life

I have treated patients with I-131 therapy for graves disease. First of, if the OP would like to pursue this further with allopathic medicine, further functional imaging with I-123 maybe of benefit. If alternative medicine therapy is sought, I am of no help.

I'll look into the imaging
Thanks

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

I am sorry for your challenges Mark, I am not medically trained but I DO believe in alternative treatments, including Acu Puncture. Years ago, I had a chronic cough for literally months and after numerous doctors and medicines I went to see an AP. Within about four sessions, maybe two weeks, my cough was gone. I went back for a couple other ailments and it always did seem to help. I was considering visiting him for my ulcers but I am feeling better so will hold off. My suggestion is why not try it? Really, it will not hurt anything and you might have positive results, if not, other then maybe some fees you have not lost anything.

Absolutely Paul, Just what I was thinking. No need to drink poison or put a knife on my throat yet

Originally Posted by superdog

I've been through similar sleep issues.

I tried acupuncture years ago for different reasons. I did not find it to be overly helpful.

Meditation however has helped me on many levels. Including my sleep.

Good luck.

Let me clarify that I did see 2 endocrinologist and both after 2 consults wanted to do iodine. I will try other non invasive first.

[Relyt]

Mark, I agree with your approach.

I went through a phase in life where it seemed medicine was the only way to treat the problems I had.

I then started alternative things (yet to try acupuncture, but am thinking about trying it).

Sure it costs money, but if it helps fix the problem, give them a try. If you do it for a few months and it doesn't help, no harm no foul.


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[KendallTillman]

I believe it would be better if you could just take a deep discussion with some specialist about having acupuncture for your medical condition and related problems, so that you can know more about the possibilities of success and health improvement. Acupuncture has a definite effect in reducing chronic pain, such as back pain and headaches – more so than standard pain treatment. You can get more details information about acupuncture Fairfax VA on the internet. Firstly, get accurate information about acupuncture to get more benefits for your health.

[bayerische]

I don't think AcuP will help. You definitely need to get your condition under control, as having a heart rate at your levels 24/7 is a ticking time bomb!

[rolehex]

Ok a couple of thoughts here. Have you been checked for Diabetes? Having an insatiable thirst is not normal and is one symptom.

Also how much caffeine do you drink? Caffeine tricks your body into thinking its in the "fight or flight" mode stimulating the adrenals to release more cortisol, the stress hormones. And l tied into the thyroid.

A few years ago I had the same run down feelings as you, my TSH levels were normal however I had a few nodules on my thyroid. I was told through needle biopsy that they are non cancerous and didn't need to do anything however I self medicated with a few drops of sea kelp iodine each day and they had shrunk down half in size. Not telling you to do it but something to research.

As far as your original question, I'm an acupuncture believer in getting your body back in check.

[gmh1013]

You need a specialist not acupuncture ....I spent 700 bucks on it for back....did nothing

[blue16613]

Acupuncture is no "hum bug." In the proper setting it can be exactly what is needed.

Ok, with that said.........

I don't know you, but from reading your many posts I am impressed that you live the life of a high powered, full throttle, pedal to the metal individual. From things you have divulged, it appears that you have accumulated some nice resources over the years. to mean you can afford to get yourself fully evaluated.

Do yourself a BIG favor. If you are in Florida, make an appointment for an executive head to toe, soup to nuts physical at either the Mayo Clinic or the Cleveland Clinic. If you are not in Florida go to whichever of them is most convenient (Rochester, MN or Cleveland, OH) They will listen to you and give you a thorough going over. Examine and test parts of you that you never knew you had.......

I have no idea what they will find but I can just about guarantee you they will give you information you NEED.

You might end up with acupuncture, who knows, but you owe it to yourself to get a really thorough evaluation first.

Good luck!