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18 September 2020, 02:12 PM | #1 |
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Need Advice. Have I been Scammed By a Banned TRF Member
So heres my story
I purchased a Rolex 16610LV V serial off a now banned TRF member back in may! and I have yet to receive the watch or even a tracking number. I am still in contact with him but Iam struggling to get it sorted. I have a photo of his drivers ID, bank details, email, the watches serial number and a contract of sale. It's been five months and I'm getting very frustrated . He also sold 3 other watches here that same month. His TRF username : babyboof Heres a little timeline of whats happend. 22/4/20 First contact. I enquire about the watch and paypal is listed as one of the methods of payment. 23/4/20 He tells me he is having trouble with paypal and tells me to wait for it to get sorted with them. (apperently its to do with buying a watch) 1/5/20 He sends me a verification photo of the watch and his Swedish Drivers licence. We discuss the option of using his friends bussiness paypal and to put it through as a car engine..... A invoice is sent via paypal. 3/5/20 I Paid via paypal goods and services. money was put on a 24hr hold because he couldn't provide a original receipt they had to cancel the sale. and the money was refunded to my paypal (which took a week) he suggests using transferwise and gives me all his details. 4/5/20 Money is sent via transferwise He says he will ship it via tnt/fedex 10/5/20 He says tommorrow it should be delivered for shipping 12/5/20 he asked a friend to ship for him either today, tomorrow. as he so busy working. 19/5/20 He says the watch has been sent via ems or postnord. at this point I'm pretty pissed off. And throughout june I'm in contact with him almost every day hassling him for the tracking number and he keeps saying that its been sent. And at one point he gets angry at me because I keep asking him for an update!! 11/6/20 He said that his friend(ex brother) said that it is stuck in stockholm because of covid. I call postnord and confirm that they are not sending packages to australia at this time (I still havnt recieved a tracking number) 11/7/20 He says it seems like he will be able to pick up and change the shipping 24/7/20 He hasnt picked it up yet because his friend( ex brother) is on vacation 29/7/20 "hes back later this week" 4/8/20 Hes not back from vaction he had one week more. 11/8/20 Hes back but hasn't got a response from him since then Ive been getting the same " I will tell you the info when I talk to him and I will get it sorted this week" messages from him. I really don't know what to do TRF please help me. I feel like I've been scammed. JJR |
18 September 2020, 05:23 PM | #2 |
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Uh, yeah, this definitely does not sound good. I don’t about transferwise. Can you cancel the transaction? Is he trying to drag you out past the cut off?
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18 September 2020, 06:34 PM | #3 |
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It has all the tell tale signs of a scam except for the fact that he has continued communication with you... usually scammers disappear once the money has cleared into their account... if there is a way to dispute or attempt to retrieve your funds, now would be the time to get that rolling...
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18 September 2020, 06:35 PM | #4 |
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I'm not sure. Ill give them a call/email Tommorow
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18 September 2020, 07:14 PM | #5 |
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I think he just needs a little bit of money upfront to start the paperwork. Then the rest of the inheritance is yours?
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18 September 2020, 07:32 PM | #6 |
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that doesn’t sound too promising.. ALWAYS buy the seller, even if it’s a little higher price.
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18 September 2020, 11:12 PM | #7 |
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Hmm lets hope this ends well... I have my reservations however... good luck OP!!
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18 September 2020, 11:15 PM | #8 |
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babyboof, doesn't come up as a member or banned member. Are you sure the spelling of his/her username is correct?
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18 September 2020, 11:34 PM | #9 | |
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18 September 2020, 11:37 PM | #10 |
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Declaring a watch as a car engine?
Anyway, hope you get your watch OR your money back, OP. |
18 September 2020, 11:39 PM | #11 | |
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Sorry to the OP, hope this works out but it doesn't look good. |
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18 September 2020, 11:41 PM | #12 | |
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19 September 2020, 01:35 AM | #13 |
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Is this guy's name Chris Essery? He just has a whole book of excuses.
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19 September 2020, 05:08 AM | #14 |
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19 September 2020, 09:09 AM | #15 |
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yes thats the one!
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19 September 2020, 09:11 AM | #16 |
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I'm curious to know who bought his other listings and why he got banned in the first place.
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19 September 2020, 09:19 AM | #17 |
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this is his 116713LN listing that sold
thread :736613 I'm under 10 posts so I am unable to share a link ! |
19 September 2020, 10:43 AM | #18 |
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I hope this all works out for you but I doubt it.
Could this ‘watch described as a car engine’ also be an issue for you? The 116713LN is one of my favourites?
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19 September 2020, 10:45 AM | #19 |
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Just do a Google search for Chris Essery, he's all over the web, and has been since early February.
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19 September 2020, 10:52 AM | #20 |
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I sure hope somehow you get the watch. For me the first story on 23/4/20 was the first red flag and one red flag is enough for me to bail when your sending funds to someone you really don't know. Every contact has been another story, I've never heard such a thing go on like this for so long. It's crazy enough that it could be true!. Not to mention he was supposedly banned! That previous thread by him on April 08 with the fuzzy pictures could have been a plant as well. I don't know what else to say except you will be in my thoughts and prayers going forth, please stay posted with some good news.
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19 September 2020, 11:48 AM | #21 |
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Thank you all for your kind words.
and yes, after re looking into the Chris Essery saga it feels quite similar . as with the paypal invoice he wanted to put it through as a engine which I said no to. and to just put in the description 16610LV |
19 September 2020, 11:55 AM | #22 |
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Part of the reason I kinda trusted him was that I inquired about purchasing his Batman after I had paid for the Kermit. which he ended up selling to someone else. So if he was scamming me for the Kermit he could've doubled up with the Batman.
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20 September 2020, 12:33 AM | #26 |
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I would've been done (and thankful) once PayPal refunded my funds due to the seller not being able to provide the original receipt.
I understand these things could happen to anyone, but c'mon now, how many red flags are needed before realizing you're being scammed? Sorry to say this OP, but this is entirely your own fault. Next time step back and take a look at what's going on. again, sorry to sat this, but...
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20 September 2020, 01:54 AM | #27 |
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I understand these things could happen to anyone, but c'mon now, how many red flags are needed before realizing you're being scammed? Sorry to say this OP, but this is entirely your own fault.
This unfort is correct. Buyers need to take Basic steps to protect themselves. Obviously does not excuse any fraud, but it could prevent it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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