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IlikeSubs · 20 January 2018, 05:10 AM

Please help me decide on this one. I paid $6,990, plus 3% credit card fee and about $50 shipping on this watch. The pictures on the website reflected that it had a T < 25 dial, but as you can see it has a SWISS service dial and since it is an E serial, this can't be right. Also, are the lugs over polished in your opinion?

Thanks!

IlikeSubs · 20 January 2018, 05:13 AM

More pics

Auto16610 · 20 January 2018, 05:16 AM

If they lied about the dial what else could be wrong?

2th_doc · 20 January 2018, 05:21 AM

Lugs look rounded to me.

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dafuture · 20 January 2018, 05:22 AM

They either sent you the wrong watch or are trying to pull one over on you. I'd recommend reaching out to them ASAP for a refund.

faz · 20 January 2018, 05:22 AM

Have you contacted the shop to see what they have to say regarding the dial not matching their online listing??

Tangier11 · 20 January 2018, 05:22 AM

Lugs for sure over polished

Tom808 · 20 January 2018, 05:24 AM

CG looks uneven.

sensui · 20 January 2018, 05:28 AM

I don't like the crown guards especially on this watch....the lugs are borderline overpolished to me also from these shots.

breitlings · 20 January 2018, 05:32 AM

going against the grain here. Do the hands and dial glow luminous together (matching lume)?

I would be ok with the lugs, they aren't bad imho.

If the hands and dial glow I would have the watch inspected and if looks ok, keep the watch. Maybe see what they said, but I bet they used stock photos, perhaps you can get them to give you a new pepsi/coke bezel insert for the discrepancy. If hands and dial glow together similarly it is likely a service dial and hands which would imply the watch was serviced.

bmrisko · 20 January 2018, 05:33 AM

Where was this purchased? That's super shady...

JR16 · 20 January 2018, 05:41 AM

Oh boy... I would return it and get a full refund . Was it a TS from TRF? (Not asking for name)

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opawlows · 20 January 2018, 05:46 AM

the dial would be an issue for me if that is not what was advertised. Is there another watch on "their website" that matches this one? Maybe they did send the wrong watch. As for the lugs, some better pictures would help. In some pics it appears as though it still has a nice bevel, and in others they look really rounded. Could be the lighting.

toucan · 20 January 2018, 05:48 AM

Yikes!

Londonboy · 20 January 2018, 05:49 AM

I agree with all of the above comments about the lugs and c/g's.

The date looks a little "left justified" to me (could be the pic angle I suppose)

The dial lume plot surrounds look weird too (could be reflections or distortions I suppose) in the close up pic in your first post

Personally I would not keep it. GL

IlikeSubs · 20 January 2018, 05:58 AM

I'm sure it was a stock photo and that they were not trying to misrepresent the watch, but the ad did not state it was a stock photo. The watch was purchased by a place that has tons of good feedback, so I won't put them as long as they make good on this. I'm a little worried I'll be out the credit card fee and shipping both ways though.

bmrisko · 20 January 2018, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by IlikeSubs

I'm sure it was a stock photo and that they were not trying to misrepresent the watch, but the ad did not state it was a stock photo. The watch was purchased by a place that has tons of good feedback, so I won't put them as long as they make good on this. I'm a little worried I'll be out the credit card fee and shipping both ways though.

Have your cc company go to bat for you. That would be an easy charge-back win for an item that was mis-represented. The dial not matching photos is a huge issue with me, especially if the website had actual photos of the watch. Maybe it was just a shipping/order picking mistake...

off · 20 January 2018, 06:19 AM

Congratulations on getting the GMT, it is one of my favourite watches. I would have to concur with the the other members, my big issue is the service dial. While it is genuine and nothing wrong with it, that needs to be reflected in the description and pricing.

The lug seem unrecoverable, it seems to have seen a lot of polishing, and the holes are on the verge of cratering with one more polishing.

Buzzlite · 20 January 2018, 06:20 AM

Do not accept this. The dial is different than the picture you were showed. You have not received the item you purchased.

Dont do it. Ask for refund and if they give you hassle open case with CC company. Keep records of interaction with retailer and all pictures etc etc

bdddubs925 · 20 January 2018, 06:23 AM

Please release the name of seller if resolution is not satisfactory. Reviews can be easily bought.

IlikeSubs · 20 January 2018, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breitlings

going against the grain here. Do the hands and dial glow luminous together (matching lume)?

I would be ok with the lugs, they aren't bad imho.

If the hands and dial glow I would have the watch inspected and if looks ok, keep the watch. Maybe see what they said, but I bet they used stock photos, perhaps you can get them to give you a new pepsi/coke bezel insert for the discrepancy. If hands and dial glow together similarly it is likely a service dial and hands which would imply the watch was serviced.

Yes they all glow the same.

Lime · 20 January 2018, 06:25 AM

Run run run

mtgjr · 20 January 2018, 06:28 AM

Inaccurate listing. Badly polished lugs and crown guards. I would accept no less than a full refund.

Investr · 20 January 2018, 06:29 AM

being that you have other threads regarding other used watches you bought online, you might look for your closest AD and spend a little more money...... you gotta pay to play

wrxsti · 20 January 2018, 06:31 AM

can u get a refund? Why not buy from the many trusted sellers here instead?

IlikeSubs · 20 January 2018, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Investr

being that you have other threads regarding other used watches you bought online, you might look for your closest AD and spend a little more money...... you gotta pay to play

I can't get a five digit at an AD.

faaaaaaaasterrrrr · 20 January 2018, 06:35 AM

What kind of paperwork did you receive with the watch? Any service records? I'd reach out to the seller asap, like others have as well.

GMT Aviator · 20 January 2018, 06:36 AM

I wouldn’t be too hasty here.

Let’s look at what we have. If you purchased a tritium dial, then if they’ve used a stock photo for the advert, that’s not what they’ve sent you.

The dial is a replacement instead of the Tritium dial which means the hand set is likely a service replacement as well. Nothing wrong with that, unless of course you specifically wanted a tritium dial watch? I think the dial and hands are fine.

As for polishing, the watch has clearly been ‘buffed’ all over. To be expected of a watch of this age. The crown guard below the crown itself looks as if it’s been thinned slightly more than the upper crown guard, but it’s difficult to tell from the pictures. Also, a pic of the rear of the watch will show how thin the lugs have become at their tips which will give a better idea how much of the case has been ‘buffed’ away.

If you send this watch to RSC, they will polish, mill and refinish the case using a jig, which will restore the proportions of the case no problem and likely add slight bevels as well.

I don’t feel this watch is a disaster, it’s a nice piece, but it may not be what you ordered?

Maybe some wiggle room for a re-imbursement of some $ from the seller, which you could put towards a full RSC service?

What do you want to do with it?

Below is my 2003 pictured fresh back from RSC last year. I had the dial replaced and the handset, as well as a new crown, bezel insert and crystal. It looks like the day it was new.

IlikeSubs · 20 January 2018, 06:59 AM

I have contacted the seller and they are willing to offer a full refund. I'm going to box it back and and return it asap. Thanks for all the help!

sco · 20 January 2018, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by IlikeSubs

I have contacted the seller and they are willing to offer a full refund. I'm going to box it back and and return it asap. Thanks for all the help!

Good Call, hope this works out for you. I wouldn't be happy, it seems like they sent you a completely different watch than you purchased..

20 January 2018, 05:16 AM	#3
Auto16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Scott Location: Santa Cruz Watch: RolexOmegaPanerai Posts: 1,172	Return it If they lied about the dial what else could be wrong?

20 January 2018, 05:22 AM	#5
dafuture "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: NYC Posts: 1,943	They either sent you the wrong watch or are trying to pull one over on you. I'd recommend reaching out to them ASAP for a refund. __________________ Current Rolex Submariner 126610LN \|\| Cartier Tank Americaine

20 January 2018, 05:22 AM	#6
faz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Faz Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: like'em all Posts: 4,655	Have you contacted the shop to see what they have to say regarding the dial not matching their online listing?? __________________ -Faz Instagram @fazmoto

20 January 2018, 06:31 AM	#25
wrxsti "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 1,694	can u get a refund? Why not buy from the many trusted sellers here instead? __________________ PP Geneva

20 January 2018, 05:21 AM	#4
2th_doc "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Atl Posts: 920	Lugs look rounded to me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 January 2018, 05:22 AM	#7
Tangier11 Banned Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Paul Location: Southern Virginia Watch: ROLEX Posts: 2,544	Lugs for sure over polished

20 January 2018, 05:24 AM	#8
Tom808 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Tom Location: USA Posts: 121	CG looks uneven.

20 January 2018, 05:28 AM	#9
sensui 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,356	I don't like the crown guards especially on this watch....the lugs are borderline overpolished to me also from these shots.

20 January 2018, 05:32 AM	#10
breitlings Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Bethesda Watch: Apple TV Posts: 5,744	going against the grain here. Do the hands and dial glow luminous together (matching lume)? I would be ok with the lugs, they aren't bad imho. If the hands and dial glow I would have the watch inspected and if looks ok, keep the watch. Maybe see what they said, but I bet they used stock photos, perhaps you can get them to give you a new pepsi/coke bezel insert for the discrepancy. If hands and dial glow together similarly it is likely a service dial and hands which would imply the watch was serviced.

20 January 2018, 05:33 AM	#11
bmrisko "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: TN Valley Watch: Too many... Posts: 490	Where was this purchased? That's super shady...

20 January 2018, 05:41 AM	#12
JR16 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 6,186	Oh boy... I would return it and get a full refund . Was it a TS from TRF? (Not asking for name) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

20 January 2018, 05:46 AM	#13
opawlows "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Earth Watch: Rolex/Tudor/Breit Posts: 1,155	the dial would be an issue for me if that is not what was advertised. Is there another watch on "their website" that matches this one? Maybe they did send the wrong watch. As for the lugs, some better pictures would help. In some pics it appears as though it still has a nice bevel, and in others they look really rounded. Could be the lighting.

20 January 2018, 05:48 AM	#14
toucan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: NYC Watch: 5970 Posts: 1,980	Yikes!

20 January 2018, 05:49 AM	#15
Londonboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 162	I agree with all of the above comments about the lugs and c/g's. The date looks a little "left justified" to me (could be the pic angle I suppose) The dial lume plot surrounds look weird too (could be reflections or distortions I suppose) in the close up pic in your first post Personally I would not keep it. GL

20 January 2018, 05:58 AM	#16
IlikeSubs Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Texas Posts: 133	I'm sure it was a stock photo and that they were not trying to misrepresent the watch, but the ad did not state it was a stock photo. The watch was purchased by a place that has tons of good feedback, so I won't put them as long as they make good on this. I'm a little worried I'll be out the credit card fee and shipping both ways though.

20 January 2018, 06:19 AM	#18
off "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: IAH BKK Watch: DaytonaC & GMT Posts: 67	Congratulations on getting the GMT, it is one of my favourite watches. I would have to concur with the the other members, my big issue is the service dial. While it is genuine and nothing wrong with it, that needs to be reflected in the description and pricing. The lug seem unrecoverable, it seems to have seen a lot of polishing, and the holes are on the verge of cratering with one more polishing.

20 January 2018, 06:20 AM	#19
Buzzlite "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Ireland Posts: 322	Do not accept this. The dial is different than the picture you were showed. You have not received the item you purchased. Dont do it. Ask for refund and if they give you hassle open case with CC company. Keep records of interaction with retailer and all pictures etc etc

20 January 2018, 06:23 AM	#20
bdddubs925 Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Ca Posts: 36	Please release the name of seller if resolution is not satisfactory. Reviews can be easily bought.

20 January 2018, 06:25 AM	#22
Lime "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Canada Watch: Rolex, JLC, etc Posts: 354	Run run run

20 January 2018, 06:28 AM	#23
mtgjr Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Mike Location: Tampa, Florida Watch: Pepsi GMT Posts: 2,926	Inaccurate listing. Badly polished lugs and crown guards. I would accept no less than a full refund.

20 January 2018, 06:29 AM	#24
Investr Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Rick Location: LSU Watch: Constantly changes Posts: 3,815	being that you have other threads regarding other used watches you bought online, you might look for your closest AD and spend a little more money...... you gotta pay to play

20 January 2018, 06:35 AM	#27
faaaaaaaasterrrrr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: United States Watch: Another One? Posts: 246	What kind of paperwork did you receive with the watch? Any service records? I'd reach out to the seller asap, like others have as well.

20 January 2018, 06:59 AM	#29
IlikeSubs Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Texas Posts: 133	I have contacted the seller and they are willing to offer a full refund. I'm going to box it back and and return it asap. Thanks for all the help!

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