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kjl3fw · 5 March 2015, 08:05 AM

A relative of mine has this watch, and i am having a hard time finding information on it on Google. Anyone have any information on thus watch?
It seems to be a tt dj with a rotating bezel but other than that i am lost.
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CDNWatchNut · 5 March 2015, 08:21 AM

A Datejust with a rotating bezel is what is known as a Turnograph, also called a Thunderbird. Google will turn up some info.

landroverking · 5 March 2015, 08:50 AM

The Turn O Graph dates back to 1953 the forerunner of the Sub.

kjl3fw · 5 March 2015, 09:46 AM

Thank you for the information. It has been very helpful

Highland Ranger · 5 March 2015, 10:21 AM

Neat model - why did they stop making it?

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watchwatcher · 5 March 2015, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Highland Ranger

Neat model - why did they stop making it?

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It is a beauty, for sure. As for your question, not sure...but may have had something to do with the appearance of the DJ2. Perhaps there will be a 41mm version come along this year or the next?

Sublover2166 · 5 March 2015, 12:05 PM

This model was worn by Todd Beamer on Flight 93 when they overtook the highjackers. The remains of his watch are on display in the 9/11 memorial museum.

CDNWatchNut · 5 March 2015, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Highland Ranger

Neat model - why did they stop making it?

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The Datejust Turnograph in its last iteration was produced from around 2004 to 2010/11 if I recall correctly. It came in SS with a white gold bezel as well as two tone versions with a gold bezel, and various dial color choices including slate, blue and white in the SS versions.
Here is my SS/WG slate dial :

Highland Ranger · 5 March 2015, 01:38 PM

very nice - lets hope they reintroduce.

subking86 · 13 May 2015, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CDNWatchNut

The Datejust Turnograph in its last iteration was produced from around 2004 to 2010/11 if I recall correctly. It came in SS with a white gold bezel as well as two tone versions with a gold bezel, and various dial color choices including slate, blue and white in the SS versions.

Here is my SS/WG slate dial :

Does your bezel rotate? I am asking because I tried one on earlier that I am thinking about buying, but the bezel did not rotate. I know it is called turn-o-graph for a reason so it most likely needs cleaning. It is real, I checked box and papers with serial numbers etc.

I told current owner that the bezel should turn hence the name turn-o-graph. He said that he doesn't remember it ever turning. So maybe since he never turned it for 10 years, it's stuck. I don't know.

azguy · 13 May 2015, 11:26 PM

Love my Thunderbird

Bezel definitely rotates

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tkerrmd · 13 May 2015, 11:32 PM

its a cool watch!

NorthernPike · 13 May 2015, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by subking86

Does your bezel rotate? I am asking because I tried one on earlier that I am thinking about buying, but the bezel did not rotate. So maybe since he never turned it for 10 years, it's stuck.

I would hold it under the tap, with warm running water, and gently try to work it back and forth.
I think those are one of the nicest looking Rolexes.

subking86 · 14 May 2015, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NorthernPike

I would hold it under the tap, with warm running water, and gently try to work it back and forth.

I think those are one of the nicest looking Rolexes.

Thank you!
I am meeting up with him again later this week. I will try it then and see what happens.

cab56 · 14 May 2015, 12:50 AM

OP, You appear to have a 90s 16264 which is the Turn-o-Graph version of the 16234 SS/YG Datejust. Reference numbers from the 60s onward are 1625, 16250, 16263, 16264 (white gold), 116263, and 116264 (white gold).

azguy · 14 May 2015, 02:13 AM

Get a guitar pick, it makes popping the bezel off easy. Clean everything and maybe even go over ring with fine steel wool, clean and reassemble.

lzz73 · 14 September 2015, 09:35 PM

Here is my D serial (2006). It was never very popular but did have a cult following. It is also the watch that some argue led to the Submariner. I love mine with the Everose gold and brown color tones with jubilee.

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padi56 · 14 September 2015, 09:51 PM

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Neat model - why did they stop making it?

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Quite recently late 2013 early 2014 there was a very limited special run of the TOG {Turnograph} for the Japanese market only just 600 units in total 300 white dial 300 black dial.But will they become collectible well IMHO its doubtful but who knows in the future market the TOG has a long history with Rolex the first sub was basically a converted TOG 6204 or 6205..

Glidelock · 14 September 2015, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sublover2166

This model was worn by Todd Beamer on Flight 93 when they overtook the highjackers. The remains of his watch are on display in the 9/11 memorial museum.

Yeah, actually the one worn by Todd Beamer that is on display is a linen dialed version likes Marks below.

When I went to the memorial last year I asked the security associate at the door in front of Ladder 3...the fire truck that was crushed by debris, how I could locate Todd Beamer's watch. She got on her earpiece, and within moments a gentleman approached me and said Sir...your trying to locate Mr. Beamer's Rolex? As I nodded, he said please follow me! He then escorted me through the memorial abd directly to his watch.

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Love my Thunderbird

Bezel definitely rotates

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FreddyNJ · 15 September 2015, 04:00 AM

great story on Todd's watch as stated above. I was just there Saturday but the line was over 2 hours to get in and the rain started. Next time

BentleyReese · 10 October 2017, 03:11 AM

yours is 16263 and based on no lug holes... and based on the white dial stick roman...
your watch is probably 1995 or newer. To get date of watch...remove the Lug end and see the serial number...the 1st letter will narrow down the year. You can search online for key words "serial number, letter, and rolex and date"

BentleyReese · 10 October 2017, 03:13 AM

someone earlier posed that it was a 16264...which would be not correct as the 16264 was all SS/WG . the 16263 is SS/YG two tone.

brandrea · 10 October 2017, 03:18 AM

Very cool watch and not something you see all that often

mmmmp · 10 October 2017, 05:26 AM

Had that same model 'cept with a S-Jubilee. I would love to, and will, replace it someday! The shape and color of the second band alone is a showstopper! (IMO)
Great piece sir!
Mark

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NorthernPike · 10 October 2017, 06:07 AM

Hey Mark P,

I remember seeing yours here, and commenting on it. Nicest version IMHO.

BentleyReese · 18 October 2017, 06:31 AM

PM me if you are interested in selling that one. It's a very nice watch.

15 September 2015, 04:00 AM	#20
FreddyNJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Fred Location: NJ/LA Watch: GMT II TT Posts: 286	great story on Todd's watch as stated above. I was just there Saturday but the line was over 2 hours to get in and the rain started. Next time __________________ GMT II Two tone Explorer 2 (sold)

5 March 2015, 08:21 AM	#2
CDNWatchNut "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Juan Location: Sherwood Park, Ab Watch: 114060 Posts: 1,509	A Datejust with a rotating bezel is what is known as a Turnograph, also called a Thunderbird. Google will turn up some info.

5 March 2015, 08:50 AM	#3
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	The Turn O Graph dates back to 1953 the forerunner of the Sub.

5 March 2015, 09:46 AM	#4
kjl3fw "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: usa Posts: 2	Thank you for the information. It has been very helpful

5 March 2015, 10:21 AM	#5
Highland Ranger "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 573	Neat model - why did they stop making it? Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

5 March 2015, 12:05 PM	#7
Sublover2166 Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: John Location: Manassas,Virginia Watch: Ol'Bluesy & Hulk Posts: 2,871	This model was worn by Todd Beamer on Flight 93 when they overtook the highjackers. The remains of his watch are on display in the 9/11 memorial museum.

5 March 2015, 01:38 PM	#9
Highland Ranger "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 573	very nice - lets hope they reintroduce.

13 May 2015, 11:26 PM	#11
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	Love my Thunderbird Bezel definitely rotates 20140911_081406_resized_1.jpg 20140911_081354_resized_1.jpg

13 May 2015, 11:32 PM	#12
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	its a cool watch!

14 May 2015, 12:50 AM	#15
cab56 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Chris Location: Canada Watch: many! Posts: 1,134	OP, You appear to have a 90s 16264 which is the Turn-o-Graph version of the 16234 SS/YG Datejust. Reference numbers from the 60s onward are 1625, 16250, 16263, 16264 (white gold), 116263, and 116264 (white gold).

14 May 2015, 02:13 AM	#16
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	Get a guitar pick, it makes popping the bezel off easy. Clean everything and maybe even go over ring with fine steel wool, clean and reassemble.

14 September 2015, 09:35 PM	#17
lzz73 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Billings, MT Watch: 228238 Posts: 437	Here is my D serial (2006). It was never very popular but did have a cult following. It is also the watch that some argue led to the Submariner. I love mine with the Everose gold and brown color tones with jubilee. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10 October 2017, 03:11 AM	#21
BentleyReese "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Michael Location: Los Angeles Watch: YachtMaster 116622 Posts: 337	yours is 16263 and based on no lug holes... and based on the white dial stick roman... your watch is probably 1995 or newer. To get date of watch...remove the Lug end and see the serial number...the 1st letter will narrow down the year. You can search online for key words "serial number, letter, and rolex and date"

10 October 2017, 03:13 AM	#22
BentleyReese "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Michael Location: Los Angeles Watch: YachtMaster 116622 Posts: 337	someone earlier posed that it was a 16264...which would be not correct as the 16264 was all SS/WG . the 16263 is SS/YG two tone.

10 October 2017, 03:18 AM	#23
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,587	Very cool watch and not something you see all that often

10 October 2017, 05:26 AM	#24
mmmmp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Mark P Location: Toronto Watch: SS Wimbledon DJ41 Posts: 2,046	Had that same model 'cept with a S-Jubilee. I would love to, and will, replace it someday! The shape and color of the second band alone is a showstopper! (IMO) Great piece sir! Mark Sent from my SGH-I547C using Tapatalk

10 October 2017, 06:07 AM	#25
NorthernPike "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: LV, 1949 Everest Posts: 463	Hey Mark P, I remember seeing yours here, and commenting on it. Nicest version IMHO.

18 October 2017, 06:31 AM	#26
BentleyReese "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Michael Location: Los Angeles Watch: YachtMaster 116622 Posts: 337	PM me if you are interested in selling that one. It's a very nice watch.

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