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Old 27 July 2015, 04:19 PM   #1
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Need Help Authenticate 5513

Hi all, just saw this at a shop yesterday
It has a pointed crown guard as well which I didn't manage to capture
Managed to capture a few photos of this 5513
I have noted that it's on a wrong bracelet





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Old 27 July 2015, 04:34 PM   #2
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If I didn't hear wrongly, the serial mentioned was 89x,xxx
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Old 28 July 2015, 03:11 AM   #3
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Help please anyone? I'll have to make a decision real soon
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Old 28 July 2015, 03:14 AM   #4
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Old 28 July 2015, 12:04 PM   #5
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Thanks. Is the dial right for its serial number?
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Old 28 July 2015, 07:16 PM   #6
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Not sure, the pcgs usualy have gilt or swiss only or chapter ring dials.
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Old 28 July 2015, 08:29 PM   #7
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Dealer confirmed dial is from the 70's as the original radium one was replaced during service. I made the purchase anyway
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Old 28 July 2015, 08:33 PM   #8
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The dial is wrong if it is a 800K serial watch.

The bracelet is a newer replacement, obviously.

Best to take off the bracelet and inspect what is written between the lugs. The pointy guard 5513 aren't dime a dozen.
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Old 28 July 2015, 11:07 PM   #9
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Managed to get the riveted bracelet instead
Here are more pics:






Couldn't capture the serial but it reads a blurry 892,xxx with '63 stamped on caseback
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Old 29 July 2015, 11:43 AM   #10
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Love the tophat
What was the price?
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Old 29 July 2015, 05:24 PM   #11
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I got it for around $6.5k
Dealer has offered me a straight swap for a correct 70's 5513 in 3 month's time in the case that I'm unhappy with my 5513 with mismatch dial
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Old 29 July 2015, 09:27 PM   #12
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Sounds like a fair deal and even better if you're allowed to swap later.

In my mind it's no important that the dial is mismatched. I'd choose the one that's in better shape.

Yours looks very nice.
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Old 1 August 2015, 04:36 AM   #13
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Thanks for the advice. Got some comments from Rolex Service Centre - everything is ok except that the dial can't be certified by the technician due to limited resources thus needs to be sent to Switzerland for second opinion. Is that something that I should pursue? Or just leave it be
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Old 1 August 2015, 05:25 AM   #14
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To me, it would boil down to what it's gonna cost and how long it's gonna be gone.
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Old 1 August 2015, 11:02 AM   #15
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Just found that it could take months and even then they would not have the correct dial which is the gilt dials in stock. Furthermore the technician's comment that my watch is from the 50's (to my knowledge Rolex had a reset in serial number and 5513 started production in 1962) gives me little confidence in this particular RSC
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Old 1 August 2015, 11:16 AM   #16
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Managed to get the riveted bracelet instead
Here are more pics:






Couldn't capture the serial but it reads a blurry 892,xxx with '63 stamped on caseback

That rivet bracelet is wrong for your watch. That is a 19mm endlink (#57).
You need a 20mm
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Old 1 August 2015, 06:26 PM   #17
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Thx for pointing it out
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Old 1 August 2015, 06:27 PM   #18
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thx for pointing it out, appreciate it.
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Old 2 August 2015, 12:33 AM   #19
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That's a nice pre-65 case. Although dial is wrong, it is worth holding on to. You may find a correct dial before you die and that would make this a really exceptional piece!
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Old 2 August 2015, 02:03 AM   #20
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Just glad I didn't purchase a lemon. Any suggestions on where to look out for that dial

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Old 2 August 2015, 10:45 AM   #21
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Those end links are fake. 57 is upside down. Might want to look more closely at entire bracelet (not a huge deal overall, but a correct Rivet sub bracelet is easy worth over $1000 in decent condition).


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Old 2 August 2015, 11:10 AM   #22
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Thx for pointing out. The dealer is pretty flexible. Will return the bracelet in exchange for some $
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Old 2 August 2015, 01:01 PM   #23
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Thx for pointing out. The dealer is pretty flexible. Will return the bracelet in exchange for some $

Good call. I gave it a closer look and the bracelet is, at best, a mix of different Rolex parts (Swiss clasp, USA made rivets, fake or altered USA end links).


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Old 3 August 2015, 05:01 PM   #24
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nice 5513 ...want one
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Old 3 August 2015, 09:11 PM   #25
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Have you been to Melbourne RSC to work out best approach, is an older piece and has done some hard living, but that wont stop a Rolex.
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Old 4 August 2015, 06:29 PM   #26
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Thanks guys I've returned the bracelet for some $. I've been relocated to Kuala Lumpur actually. I heard good things about RSC Singapore though.
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Old 5 August 2015, 01:26 AM   #27
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Thanks guys I've returned the bracelet for some $. I've been relocated to Kuala Lumpur actually. I heard good things about RSC Singapore though.
Heard good things about SG RSC? Err... you may wanna check this link out

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=423386
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Old 5 August 2015, 02:40 AM   #28
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sorry to hear about your bad experience. i only heard good things about RSC singapore. Well i guess they're just better in comparison with the KL one.
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