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Tri-National-Man · 8 January 2017, 03:44 AM

I have a chance to get one of these 16800..With the later 16610 looking dial, which has beautifully aged plots and matching hands..The dial itself looks like its slightly matted too..One or two niggles though..The cyclops doesn t magnify date as good as my 16610 (maybe aftermarket crystal?) and tool slip marks on case back..No docs with it either.. But i just love the creamy coloured markers..
Near future desirable classic?? (You don't see as many of these compared to the 16610)..Or stay with the 16610 model..Difference in quality of steel used, yes? Anyway your thoughts, and will post pic when I can

Tools · 8 January 2017, 04:12 AM

Gold surround 16800's are, essentially, 16610's with a 3035 movement; it's visually impossible to tell the difference.

They are both already "desirable classics".

andy66db · 8 January 2017, 05:45 AM

I used to own a 16800 and a 16610 and the date magnification was lower on the 16800. I've seen quite a few 16800s like that, so it may well be an OEM crystal.

Gina Marie · 8 January 2017, 06:27 AM

Love the 16800s. Vintage charm with a modern twist. I have both a Matt dial and a spider dial. Love them to pieces. I have an extra box set for the 16800 too if you need.

swish77 · 8 January 2017, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gina Marie

Love the 16800s. Vintage charm with a modern twist.

x2!! Any photos of the watch you're considering?

freefly · 8 January 2017, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Gold surround 16800's are, essentially, 16610's with a 3035 movement; it's visually impossible to tell the difference.

+1.

Great watches, but I wouldn't (personally) chose one over a 16610 unless it was an early matte-dial example.
If you come across a seller who is trying to extract a premium for a 16800 that doesn't have a matte dial, I would keep looking. YMMV.

sillo · 9 January 2017, 04:35 AM

Its already been said, but if it isn't a matte 16800 I'd just look at 16610s.

Gina Marie · 9 January 2017, 04:58 AM

Go with the 16800 if wgs. Cheaper and will have more charm in the end. Otherwise I would find a Matt dial as prices for those are jumping as folks get priced out of the 5513z

Gina Marie · 9 January 2017, 05:01 AM

If you decide Matt dial....get an early One as they tend to fade to a yellowish brown or mustard with time. Very cool dial!

Tri-National-Man · 9 January 2017, 10:41 PM

Thanks for advice and photos..Very nice. will post a pic of it soon, meanwhile here's my '95 16610

onthedial · 11 January 2017, 11:09 AM

@Tri-National-Man
The only collectible WGS 16800s are the ones which have hour plots that have turned, going from creamy white to creamy yellow-orange. These aren't common and a premium is paid for these. As already mentioned, the early matte 16800s are becoming sought after and prices are edging up quickly.
Show us the one you're considering for purchase.

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Tri-National-Man · 23 February 2017, 01:44 AM

Here it is..Still unsure whether original crystal or not, but lovely gloss-turned matte dial and creamy plots, matching hand set and nice hardly polished/refinished case and original band/clasp and insert with caramel coloured pip..
What are your thoughts people?

freefly · 23 February 2017, 06:51 AM

Well done! Looks like a great example.

swish77 · 23 February 2017, 07:34 AM

Very nice example! And that lovely patina will presumably continue to get even creamier. (Super nit-pick: Looks as if the tritium is starting to crack on the seconds hand.)

What's the asking price?

onthedial · 23 February 2017, 05:47 PM

@Tri-National-Man
Based on these 4 pics, this looks like a solid candidate for purchase, if the price is right. As swish77 pointed out, the macro shot of the second hand does reveal some minor separation/cracking.
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Tri-National-Man · 24 February 2017, 12:51 AM

I decided to buy it..Really fell for the patina and the matte looking dial..Looks and feels really different to a 16610..Purchased for approximately $4560..Not cheap but okay, here in UK..

yannis · 24 February 2017, 01:17 AM

Congrats Shaun. Looks good and price is good too.

offrdmania · 24 February 2017, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tri-National-Man

I decided to buy it..Really fell for the patina and the matte looking dial..Looks and feels really different to a 16610..Purchased for approximately $4560..Not cheap but okay, here in UK..

Very nice example and the price is right on for a clean non matte plot dial example.

Kellen · 25 February 2017, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gina Marie

Love the 16800s. Vintage charm with a modern twist. I have both a Matt dial and a spider dial. Love them to pieces. I have an extra box set for the 16800 too if you need.

I just picked up a 16800 too, I might be interested in the box set

rmlovett1 · 28 February 2017, 07:53 AM

Picked one up today,original hands and insert, original matte dial, '83. Matte dials w/o marker surrounds are definitely creeping up in price.

MATCH1969 · 28 February 2017, 07:59 AM

My 16800 From early 80's

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8 January 2017, 03:44 AM	#1
Tri-National-Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Shaun Location: Devonshire Watch: SubND/D/LV Posts: 648	Feelings on the 16800?? I have a chance to get one of these 16800..With the later 16610 looking dial, which has beautifully aged plots and matching hands..The dial itself looks like its slightly matted too..One or two niggles though..The cyclops doesn t magnify date as good as my 16610 (maybe aftermarket crystal?) and tool slip marks on case back..No docs with it either.. But i just love the creamy coloured markers.. Near future desirable classic?? (You don't see as many of these compared to the 16610)..Or stay with the 16610 model..Difference in quality of steel used, yes? Anyway your thoughts, and will post pic when I can

8 January 2017, 04:12 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,037	Gold surround 16800's are, essentially, 16610's with a 3035 movement; it's visually impossible to tell the difference. They are both already "desirable classics". __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

24 February 2017, 01:17 AM	#17
yannis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Yannis Location: Europe Watch: maniac Posts: 9,070	Congrats Shaun. Looks good and price is good too. __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV \| Tudor 79220N DSSD MEMBERS - OWNERS CLUB

8 January 2017, 05:45 AM	#3
andy66db "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: London, England Posts: 81	I used to own a 16800 and a 16610 and the date magnification was lower on the 16800. I've seen quite a few 16800s like that, so it may well be an OEM crystal.

8 January 2017, 06:27 AM	#4
Gina Marie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: USA Baby! Posts: 1,068	Love the 16800s. Vintage charm with a modern twist. I have both a Matt dial and a spider dial. Love them to pieces. I have an extra box set for the 16800 too if you need.

9 January 2017, 04:35 AM	#7
sillo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Sean Location: NY Watch: 5 Digit Posts: 2,840	Its already been said, but if it isn't a matte 16800 I'd just look at 16610s.

9 January 2017, 04:58 AM	#8
Gina Marie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: USA Baby! Posts: 1,068	Go with the 16800 if wgs. Cheaper and will have more charm in the end. Otherwise I would find a Matt dial as prices for those are jumping as folks get priced out of the 5513z

11 January 2017, 11:09 AM	#11
onthedial "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Los Angeles Watch: IG @onthedial Posts: 587	@Tri-National-Man The only collectible WGS 16800s are the ones which have hour plots that have turned, going from creamy white to creamy yellow-orange. These aren't common and a premium is paid for these. As already mentioned, the early matte 16800s are becoming sought after and prices are edging up quickly. Show us the one you're considering for purchase. _________ Instagram: @onthedial

23 February 2017, 06:51 AM	#13
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	Well done! Looks like a great example.

23 February 2017, 07:34 AM	#14
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,789	Very nice example! And that lovely patina will presumably continue to get even creamier. (Super nit-pick: Looks as if the tritium is starting to crack on the seconds hand.) What's the asking price?

23 February 2017, 05:47 PM	#15
onthedial "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Los Angeles Watch: IG @onthedial Posts: 587	@Tri-National-Man Based on these 4 pics, this looks like a solid candidate for purchase, if the price is right. As swish77 pointed out, the macro shot of the second hand does reveal some minor separation/cracking. ________ Instagram: @onthedial

24 February 2017, 12:51 AM	#16
Tri-National-Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Shaun Location: Devonshire Watch: SubND/D/LV Posts: 648	I decided to buy it..Really fell for the patina and the matte looking dial..Looks and feels really different to a 16610..Purchased for approximately $4560..Not cheap but okay, here in UK..

28 February 2017, 07:53 AM	#20
rmlovett1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 22,457	Picked one up today,original hands and insert, original matte dial, '83. Matte dials w/o marker surrounds are definitely creeping up in price.

28 February 2017, 07:59 AM	#21
MATCH1969 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: PARIS Watch: Vintage Posts: 2,761	My 16800 From early 80's image.jpg

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