New Rolex daytona panda 126500LN vs 116500LN

[samuel019]

Originally Posted by 007_Bond_007

White gold and rose gold models the biggest winners IMO. The bracelet end links now match the case which kept me away. Let’s see what the price will be, I don’t play AD games.


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You lost me here. How did they not in the past?

And on the WG and RG we only have 3 dial choices. And one has diamonds

Yellow gold is hands down the winner for dial choices. Such a shame as a RG fanatic the Chocolate dial is gone!!! For now

But I guess my Chocolate 515 is here to stay forever!!!!!!!

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by samuel019

You lost me here. How did they not in the past?

And on the WG and RG we only have 3 dial choices. And one has diamonds

Yellow gold is hands down the winner for dial choices. Such a shame as a RG fanatic the Chocolate dial is gone!!! For now

But I guess my Chocolate 515 is here to stay forever!!!!!!!

End links protrude past the lugs in 11 series.

[eightball76]

I am Fortunate to own both the 16520 and 116500 and tuned Down the option for the 116520 (didn’t like the steel subdials). I see the 126500 as a typical Rolex evolution. I will not be placing my name on the list for this as the differences in reality from the 116500 Are in my eyes, minor. I will be interested to see the bezel ring in real life before I judge or comment.
Hopefully one day, a true panda on a brushed case and bracelet is released ….

[skipstar]

Originally Posted by SUPERDOC

after 4 pages... let me sum things up for anyone who hasn't read through

Those who currently own a ceramic steel Daytona : Older gen is better !

Those who don't currently own a Ceramic steel Daytona: New one is better !


Those who already own a ceramic steel Daytona, and have access to AD allotments : I'll get this one too!

[rolexgs]

Originally Posted by xjeeunitx

Different. Similar design but the sides are now flat.

not flat, the case is now just the same as my 116515ln chocolate.

[goldboy]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Seriously?? I am not gushing so now I am guarding the 11 series.

Welcome to the forum. In time you will understand how ridiculous that opinion is of my post and intentions are regarding my forum activities and reputation.

Gushing? According to what you've put in writing above you believe the new Daytona to be a complete disaster, but the 11 series is now the ultimate classic representation. It just sounds like you're trying to frame a special narrative around the watch you own.

I've been here since 2012, cheers

[goldboy]

Originally Posted by SUPERDOC

after 4 pages... let me sum things up for anyone who hasn't read through

Those who currently own a ceramic steel Daytona : Older gen is better !

Those who don't currently own a Ceramic steel Daytona: New one is better !


Those who already own a ceramic steel Daytona, and have access to AD allotments : I'll get this one too!

Nailed it Doc

[samuel019]

Originally Posted by rolexgs

not flat, the case is now just the same as my 116515ln chocolate.

And ours is discontinued

Sooooooooooooo glad I got mine. But we all know how Rolex is. Gone today. Here tomorrow

[rcwatchcollector]

So yes I am salty. I will get it grey market. It looks like a YM40 case. on a Daytona.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by goldboy

Gushing? According to what you've put in writing above you believe the new Daytona to be a complete disaster, but the 11 series is now the ultimate classic representation. It just sounds like you're trying to frame a special narrative around the watch you own.

I've been here since 2012, cheers

I absolutely believe Rolex unnecessary tweeted the model in all the wrong areas. That is MY opinion. Considering how long the 11 series Daytona has been left unchanged, it is huge news with these changes. The 11 series Daytona doesn’t need a “special narrative” its design and 4130 movement earned its reputation and speaks for itself.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Mrngrz46

Probably better that that the ceramic bezel chipped and need to change

Very few reported chipped Daytona ceramic bezels.

On the PM oysterflex Daytonas that outer bezel ring is going to get dented and chipped quite easily.

I can see from a design standpoint why its there (as a throwback to the bakalite bezel Daytonas)

[samuel019]

Originally Posted by EEpro

End links protrude past the lugs in 11 series.

Never really noticed it but my only PM Daytona is a 523 and 515

Was really really really wanting a "116"505 but I guess those days are over


Thank you for the clarification

On a different note does anyone think that Rolex and Rolex A D's will increase the 500 allocations to make room for 126500's??

We all know that pretty much every A D has a few 500's in the safe just waiting on the right customer. Well maybe now some of us get a call to make room for the 126.

Or am I off my rocker??

[Tell44]

Do we think the case size is still 38.6, or is it actually 40mm now. Im hoping it remained the same.

Thoughts team?

[rolexgs]

Originally Posted by Tell44

Do we think the case size is still 38.6, or is it actually 40mm now. Im hoping it remained the same.

Thoughts team?

i do think it is still 38.6. if its 40mm now then rolex would claim it is 41mm.

[rcwatchcollector]

Originally Posted by rolexgs

not flat, the case is now just the same as my 116515ln chocolate.

Is your 116515LN still 39mm? even without the asymetrical lugs?

the new one might be a legit 40mm.

[ArtNouveau]

Much ado about nothing in my opinion. To me the changes are so subtle that unless I were to scrutinize a new and old one side by side in my hands, I don’t think I’d notice any difference at three feet away. It’s also common knowledge that the vaunted 4130 movement has had incremental upgrades and updates during its 22 year run, sounds to me that they’re renaming it but nothing really new there.
The look of the ceramic bezel was different enough for me to seek out a 116500 over my older 116520’s, I am not rushing to the phone this morning over this.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by rolexgs

i do think it is still 38.6. if its 40mm now then rolex would claim it is 41mm.

That was my take as well. A size change would have been at the top of the advertised list in Rolex changes and would have been noted a 41mm.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Epic fail with butchering the Daytona line. I am in disbelief Rolex could make so many design screw-ups their most perfect watch.

Oh man that metal edge around the bezel is a huge issue for collecting dings and wear marks. IMO….it adds nothing and becomes a liability.
The biggest “fail” is the beautiful organic case lines have been butchered into a now blocky supercase look? ??
A blocky Daytona?

The 11 series Daytona has now become incredibly special and “THE” SS Daytona.

Agreed on the metal edge. More so on the PM cerachrome bezel references.

I'd wait to see the real watches first before we can fully comment on the case shape. The animated renders look rushed and badly done. Bracelet thickness is way off. Reflections are poor.

The static images look more representative and a lot closer to the case shape of the outgoing larger cased PM references which could never be accused of being anything but elegant.

And they've fixed the awkward asymmetry of the 500s and 508s

[Mystro]

This may help some with a side by side. Some points that were earlier brought up.

The 12 series font on the sub dials looks crowded and less legible (at least by these pics.)
The white font doesn’t have enough of a contrasting border and tends to wash into the white of the dial. Rolex should have made the font smaller to keep it centered in the sub dial ring.

You can also clearly see the case/lugs are more blocky.









12 series rear from Rolex video.

[Tell44]

Originally Posted by Krash

My question is whether or not it’s really 40mm this time.


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This. is it 40 or 38.6?????

[Tell44]

Originally Posted by rolexgs

i do think it is still 38.6. if its 40mm now then rolex would claim it is 41mm.

We will see! If its actually 40, im more keen to want a 116500ln. I was about to buy one actually, and now find myself in this mess. I would prefer a smaller case size.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by rcwatchcollector

Is your 116515LN still 39mm? even without the asymetrical lugs?

the new one might be a legit 40mm.

The symmetrical cases are circa 1mm more than the asymmetric cases if i remember correctly.

Symmetrical just under 40mm

Asymmetrical - just under 39mm

[NYG1121]

biggest improvement is the zenith style chrono rings and the symmetrical case for me

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Mystro

This may help some with a side by side. Some points that were earlier brought up.

The 12 series font on the sub dials looks crowded and less legible (at least by these pics.)
The white font doesn’t have enough of a contrasting border and tends to wash into the white of the dial.

You can also clearly see the case/lugs are more blocky.

Both renders. Not necessarily wholly representative. Original Rolex renders for the 116500 used the wrong case and end links

Here's a real 116520/116500 case from behind. Its not pretty

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by NYG1121

biggest improvement is the zenith style chrono rings and the symmetrical case for me

Agree. And the hour index markers are better too.

[rolexgs]

I really hate the steel bezel around the ceramic, looks clumsy and I don't need any protection.

[lamnyc]

Originally Posted by rolexgs

I really hate the steel bezel around the ceramic, looks clumsy and I don't need any protection.

Agree.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by Devildog

Both renders. Not necessarily wholly representative

I know, but it’s the best we have. I’m also doing screens captures from the Rolex release video.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Mystro

I know, but it’s the best we have. I’m also doing screens captures from the Rolex release video.

I really do think the case will look much better in real life

[swish77]

Originally Posted by NYG1121

biggest improvement is the zenith style chrono rings and the symmetrical case for me

How are the new sub-dials more like Zenith Daytonas? Yes, they appear slightly thinner than the 116500s, but they are still not centered or balanced on the dial like Zenith Daytonas.

The previous asymmetrical case, which was so subtle anyway, was a necessary design element on ALL Daytonas for its 60 years of existence to balance the pushers. If that was really an issue, Rolex would have changed it decades ago.