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Old 22 August 2018, 03:16 AM   #1
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Rolex s am on Timezone

This is a verified scam, as I luckily had my wire reversed by the fraud department of Regions bank prior to my money being deposited (have all emails with VP of Corporate Security, Roderick Frankland).

The timezone member is CLASSY1
Offclass1@gmail.com

Goes by Michael O’Brien.
Cell 470-310-0737

Uses both regions bank (under Michele O’Brien) and BOA (unknown name, bank wouldn’t tell me).

If anyone knows how to report this to timezone please do.

I was almost scammed over a BLNR

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=2388463&rid=0

And he has another Rolex listed.

Rob



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Old 22 August 2018, 07:05 AM   #2
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You are very fortunate to have your wire reversed. Wow. How did you know it's a scam?
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Old 22 August 2018, 10:17 AM   #3
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I got very lucky; the fraud department at Regence bank was on to the account holder and stopped my incoming wire from Bank of America. The VP of the department called me and educated me on the scam and that he had reversed the wire.

In short, had the bank not been looking at this account, I would have lost a ton of cash.

Anyone with questions about this specific case or dealing with this person may contact me for copies of all my communications with both the fraudulent seller and the bank. Rob
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Old 22 August 2018, 12:05 PM   #4
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Timezone is a shithole....
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Old 22 August 2018, 07:08 PM   #5
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Timezone is a shithole . . .
It used to be the best, but with management changes, the implementation of draconian rules and the onus of the obligatory and usurious sponsor fees in order to sell, the site has completely lost touch.

It used to be the site I opened right after my e-mail, but now I visit once a month or so because I don't care about conversations that start with what are you wearing today.

In the old days, they could fill more than an entire page on their Sales Corner each and every day. Now it takes more than three days to fill a single page, and half or more of the posts are from sponsors like Govberg, Manfredi and Topper.
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Old 23 August 2018, 03:04 AM   #6
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Never ceases to amaze me that people don't take the most basic of steps when wiring someone money. I'd assume you didn't Facetime with this individual and maybe checked at most 2 references, probably through emails?

I'm speaking more bluntly here since you were lucky to avoid being scammed, but man, come on, the easiest of due diligence right here:



VOIP, red flag!! While that doesn't mean it is a scam, it should make you proceed with extreme caution. Furthermore, did you verify his identity, where he works, any other steps?

All you have is Michael O'Brien (obviously not his real name) a VOIP that will disappear after you wire the funds, and a bank account that most likely isn't the scammers.

I had one scammer reach out to me about a watch I was selling, sent him some Malware. He shut everything on his comp down and went running afterwards. Honestly, I should've (and will next time) played it differently to really dive into his shit.

There is a reason there are low level scammers, they aren't smart enough to earn an income through other means. There are legit brilliant con artists out there, but they usually aren't around for a Rolex con, they're plotting much larger things. Take basic precautions (what I view as common sense), and you'll be fine.

In this particular case, OP got very lucky and hopefully learned a lesson (a valuable one at that).
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Old 23 August 2018, 03:10 AM   #7
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You are a very lucky individual to have the wire reversed.

Often for me, the easiest tell is to look back to their posting history and look for any inconsistencies with previous listings. A different e-mail, different posting style and totally different picture style are all red flags. I've reported a lot of suspicious ads on TZ and here and sure enough I've been right almost all the time.
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Old 27 August 2018, 07:05 AM   #8
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Yeah, if you're going to spend that much money on the watch, at least check the guy's posting history--ESPECIALLY on Timezone. That place is the preferred forum for scammers these days.

That particular user had clear red flags; basically no activity until he started posting 10-15 messages per day over a six day period (meaningless one-liner reply messages like "looks good," "very sharp," "thanks for sharing") just to get to the minimum message count to post on TZ's sales forum.

I think this is the same guy; I reported this listing to TZ earlier today but they've done nothing about it so far:

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=7555485&rid=0

Aside from getting references, another precaution is to ask the seller to send you an image of the watch with a piece of paper showing the current date/time on it.
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Old 28 August 2018, 02:59 AM   #9
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I think i was scammed by the same person "shiny1"
only he claimed his name was "Harry O'brien" and used BOA
unfortunately for me my money was deposited into his account.... any suggestions for me to get it back?
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Old 28 August 2018, 06:20 AM   #10
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Would not buy anything from Timezone. Any Rolex purchases are either from AD or the trusted dealers on the ROlexforum
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Old 22 January 2019, 03:13 PM   #11
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I was in contact with this seller from watchrecon on a daytona c
https://www.watchrecon.com/?user_nam...17&last_days=0

Received text and emails from the same number 470-310-0737/ Annette Shakir <417dat.lon5@gmail.com>.

Glad I checked his or her info on here before committing any further!!! Thx guys!!!
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Old 22 January 2019, 03:48 PM   #12
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Reported to WUS. Seller has several watches for sale there
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Old 23 January 2019, 07:53 AM   #13
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WUS acted quick and banned user 'Date417'
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