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lilgill · 3 October 2018, 07:56 PM

I have question why a Lange 1815 and iwc Portuguese hand wound
look the same dial , who is the original
thank for answer me .
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City74 · 3 October 2018, 07:58 PM

Neither are the original. They are both deck style or marine style watches. That’s why they look the same

ezinhk · 4 October 2018, 01:59 AM

Turn them over and you will see a difference...big difference.

scarlet knight · 4 October 2018, 02:37 AM

I bet you can find this design at $10 to $100K. Just a popular look.

tyler1980 · 4 October 2018, 02:55 AM

hold one and look... nothing like each other

both great watches but the margin separating watches is in the details.

the who did it first for a pretty common style is different than saying Hublot vs Royal Oak because the design itself is unorthodox, those designs are pretty common and you can find many watches at all levels that look similar. Drives me crazy when people say any round, black dial, black bezel diving watch is a copy of a sub. There is only so much you can do to make a black dial, round diving watch different.

beshannon · 5 October 2018, 02:55 AM

So many differences, not even close to the same.

CoveWatch · 5 October 2018, 03:26 AM

Take a look at them in person and compare the movements and you will notice a big difference in finish and quality

capote · 5 October 2018, 04:35 AM

I think the dials are very different

idontlike_bandwagons · 5 October 2018, 05:44 AM

Both art deco design. Dates back to 1920s, neither of them invented the design, it was just a period with this specific design just like integrated lug style and octagonal designs in the 1970s (AP did not invent!)

Justindo · 5 October 2018, 12:52 PM

Lots of watches look the same, whether it be a $50 Timex, a $5,000 Breitling, or a $50,000 Lange. Holding one and looking at them closely reveals all a discerning person needs to know.

vman · 5 October 2018, 01:24 PM

Having handled both watches in person... They are not even close. You want the Lange. Trust me.

MILGAUSS88 · 5 October 2018, 02:45 PM

They do not look the same to me.

The Lange has a double sunk dial, which has been used since the 19th century, I believe originally started on American pocket watches.

capote · 6 October 2018, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idontlike_bandwagons

Both art deco design. Dates back to 1920s, neither of them invented the design, it was just a period with this specific design just like integrated lug style and octagonal designs in the 1970s (AP did not invent!)

What makes you say art deco? I think they are rather austere

AK797 · 6 October 2018, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by capote

What makes you say art deco? I think they are rather austere

Yeah I wouldn't say Art Deco style, unlike say the Reverso which is the epitome of that era.

GoingPlaces · 6 October 2018, 01:46 AM

It's a classic design that is common among dozens of watch companies. As far as the two mentioned, not even close.

Burlington · 6 October 2018, 03:30 AM

A lot of differences in the numerals, one has a date, even markers on the sub seconds.

The main similarities are dial colour and hand placement.

Both good lookers !

idontlike_bandwagons · 6 October 2018, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by capote

What makes you say art deco? I think they are rather austere

History of specific watch models makes me say that. Portuguese is an art deco watch. 1815 follows a similar design language.

@AK797 Reverso is indeed art deco, but art deco has a huge spread design wise.

3 October 2018, 07:56 PM	#1
lilgill "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Bangkok Posts: 13	why a Lange 1815 and iwc portuguese look the same I have question why a Lange 1815 and iwc Portuguese hand wound look the same dial , who is the original thank for answer me . [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]

4 October 2018, 02:37 AM	#4
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,146	Stowa Marine looks the same and costs less. I bet you can find this design at $10 to $100K. Just a popular look.

4 October 2018, 02:55 AM	#5
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	hold one and look... nothing like each other both great watches but the margin separating watches is in the details. the who did it first for a pretty common style is different than saying Hublot vs Royal Oak because the design itself is unorthodox, those designs are pretty common and you can find many watches at all levels that look similar. Drives me crazy when people say any round, black dial, black bezel diving watch is a copy of a sub. There is only so much you can do to make a black dial, round diving watch different. __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

5 October 2018, 02:55 AM	#6
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,895	So many differences, not even close to the same. __________________ Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Glashutte Senator Exellence, Rolex 116710 GMT Master II BLNR, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent

5 October 2018, 01:24 PM	#11
vman "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Capt Swerve Location: North Carolina Watch: less TV Posts: 2,224	Having handled both watches in person... They are not even close. You want the Lange. Trust me. __________________ Collector and buyer of Lange, VC, Patek \| 2 FA Enabled

3 October 2018, 07:58 PM	#2
City74 Banned Join Date: Oct 2017 Real Name: Bradley Location: Virginia Watch: Speedy Reduced Posts: 727	Neither are the original. They are both deck style or marine style watches. That’s why they look the same

4 October 2018, 01:59 AM	#3
ezinhk "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: hk Posts: 691	Turn them over and you will see a difference...big difference.

5 October 2018, 03:26 AM	#7
CoveWatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: SoCal Watch: Rolex & AP Posts: 4,535	Take a look at them in person and compare the movements and you will notice a big difference in finish and quality

5 October 2018, 04:35 AM	#8
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	I think the dials are very different

5 October 2018, 05:44 AM	#9
idontlike_bandwagons Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Cloud 7 Posts: 35	Both art deco design. Dates back to 1920s, neither of them invented the design, it was just a period with this specific design just like integrated lug style and octagonal designs in the 1970s (AP did not invent!)

5 October 2018, 12:52 PM	#10
Justindo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: California Posts: 2,176	Lots of watches look the same, whether it be a $50 Timex, a $5,000 Breitling, or a $50,000 Lange. Holding one and looking at them closely reveals all a discerning person needs to know.

5 October 2018, 02:45 PM	#12
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 2,950	They do not look the same to me. The Lange has a double sunk dial, which has been used since the 19th century, I believe originally started on American pocket watches.

6 October 2018, 01:46 AM	#15
GoingPlaces "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 5,341	It's a classic design that is common among dozens of watch companies. As far as the two mentioned, not even close.

6 October 2018, 03:30 AM	#16
Burlington "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Europe Posts: 5,635	A lot of differences in the numerals, one has a date, even markers on the sub seconds. The main similarities are dial colour and hand placement. Both good lookers ! __________________ “My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” ― Winston S. Churchill

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