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Old 20 October 2018, 09:14 AM   #31
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I got everything but I buy grey. It’s not a complete set without the tags. It will matter if you trade it down the line.
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Old 20 October 2018, 09:28 AM   #32
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I got everything but I buy grey. It’s not a complete set without the tags. It will matter if you trade it down the line.

I agree, it’s nice to have all the little extra bits, but to the 99% of people who would potentially buy a watch you decide to sell down the line, a ‘full set’ to them will be made up of box and papers, as that’s all that really matters.

Other than the people on this forum or the WIS out there, which make up probably 1% of those who buy Rolex, it won’t even occur to most prospective buyers that an AD’s infantry tag is there or not.
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Old 20 October 2018, 09:32 AM   #33
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I agree, it’s nice to have all the little extra bits, but to the 99% of people who would potentially buy a watch you decide to sell down the line, a ‘full set’ to them will be made up of box and papers, as that’s all that really matters.

Other than the people on this forum or the WIS out there, which make up probably 1% of those who buy Rolex, it won’t even occur to most prospective buyers that an AD’s infantry tag is there or not.
No and as i heard allready in 2017 from a very reputable grey dealer that some AD s simply don't deliver those with the watch, simple is that, nothing incomplete than imo.. Also what price would it matter if so? 1 dollar? The warranty-card box and watch thats all that matters in my humble opinion...
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Old 20 October 2018, 09:41 AM   #34
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Yes they kept mine and wanted the green ones too! Fortunately they backed off so I was able to keep the green hang tags.
However they also kept the bezel protector.
This was the first time experiencing this several months ago.
Apparently "Rolex" policy to deter flipping as though you'd command a premium with these hang tags.
Hopefully I get my BLNR next year but wonder what other conditions they'll impose when I go to pick it up.
Desperate times we live in.
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Old 20 October 2018, 09:45 AM   #35
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No and as i heard allready in 2017 from a very reputable grey dealer that some AD s simply don't deliver those with the watch, simple is that, nothing incomplete than imo.. Also what price would it matter if so? 1 dollar? The warranty-card box and watch thats all that matters in my humble opinion...
I found out the hard way.
I lost $500.00 in a trade in to a forum trusted seller for a missing piece paper from a 21 year old watch. I thought I had everything, all tags box, outer box but that one piece cost me $500.00. Their policy is it is either a complete set or it isn’t. None of these little item are important to me but the watch community had their own set of rules. From now on, I even keep the stickers I pulled of to prove they were on the watch when I got it. Not sure if it matters but who knows in another few years. It’s crazy.
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Old 20 October 2018, 10:00 AM   #36
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So if they offer you a ceramic daytona without a tag you tell him he can shove it in ? :D Or would you tell him more politely that he can keep it?
Not sure, but do know I am not one for hype with hot models. Do you think they are keeping the white hang tags on Datejusts?
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Old 20 October 2018, 10:06 AM   #37
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Didn’t come with my BLNR either. AD said it’s for “inventory purposes”. Of course I’d rather have it than not, but still consider it a “complete set” without the white tag.

I wouldn’t worry about it.
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Old 20 October 2018, 10:18 AM   #38
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I found out the hard way.
I lost $500.00 in a trade in to a forum trusted seller for a missing piece paper from a 21 year old watch. I thought I had everything, all tags box, outer box but that one piece cost me $500.00. Their policy is it is either a complete set or it isn’t. None of these little item are important to me but the watch community had their own set of rules. From now on, I even keep the stickers I pulled of to prove they were on the watch when I got it. Not sure if it matters but who knows in another few years. It’s crazy.
I agree that it does matter to many if not most folks. At these price points, it's nice to have all the goodies. Plus people know that having a complete set does push the price up down the line should a reference become highly desirable. To others it doesn't matter and that's their choice. Cheers!
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Old 20 October 2018, 10:21 AM   #39
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Every Rolex I bought from my AD came with all tags, stickers and everything else many of us on TRF mention.
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Old 20 October 2018, 10:51 AM   #40
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I found out the hard way.
I lost $500.00 in a trade in to a forum trusted seller for a missing piece paper from a 21 year old watch. I thought I had everything, all tags box, outer box but that one piece cost me $500.00. Their policy is it is either a complete set or it isn’t. None of these little item are important to me but the watch community had their own set of rules. From now on, I even keep the stickers I pulled of to prove they were on the watch when I got it. Not sure if it matters but who knows in another few years. It’s crazy.
What was missing from your 16613? The paper warrantee certificate?
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Old 20 October 2018, 10:56 AM   #41
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Hey guys,

Just got my 3rd Rolex today (BLNR) and the store manager said they couldn’t give me the White Hang Tags with my Rolex. He said they could get in trouble with Rolex if they were audited. Is this true?

I’ve purchased an Explorer Mk I from that exact same store 2 years ago and was able to get both the green and white hang tags, vault box, inside and outside boxes along with the warranty card and model manual.

I also have a Blue SS Skydweller that I got at a different store, in another Province (I’m in Canada) and also got all of the above.

If any of you can shed some light on this, it’ll be greatly appreciated.

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They’re making things up! I got the white hang tag with each of my rolexes

It’s part of the sale and it really aggravates me what some ADs make up!! Next we will hear that they have to keep the bracelet in case they get audited!!
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Old 20 October 2018, 10:58 AM   #42
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All my watches came with hang tags, I think it all depends on the AD.
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Old 20 October 2018, 11:00 AM   #43
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They’re making things up! I got the white hang tag with each of my rolexes

It’s part of the sale and it really aggravates me what some ADs make up!! Next we will hear that they have to keep the bracelet in case they get audited!!
I think it depends on the AD. I bought a BNIB Sub from a trusted seller. Watch came from a USA AD. Everything was there but the plastic white tag. The green string that attaches it was still tied to the bracelet. No biggie, I'm never selling the watch, and a little plastic white tag is meaningless in the big picture. Some may disagree, oh well.
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Old 20 October 2018, 11:12 AM   #44
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If an item comes with the watch that has the model number or serial number printed on it, I think it should stay with the watch. It is nice to compare these accessory items or tags to the watch serial and know it’s a “set.” That said, I haven’t had any discussion with my AD about the white bar code tags and would have to dig through boxes to see if they included them or not.
Needless to say, it wasn’t even a conversation they nor I felt was worth having. Do I keep the box, cards, manuals etc, yes- but it’s not that serious. Watch goes on the wrist and life happens. That’s what it’s all about. So much focus on value these days....


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Old 20 October 2018, 11:42 AM   #45
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I agree, it’s nice to have all the little extra bits, but to the 99% of people who would potentially buy a watch you decide to sell down the line, a ‘full set’ to them will be made up of box and papers, as that’s all that really matters.

Other than the people on this forum or the WIS out there, which make up probably 1% of those who buy Rolex, it won’t even occur to most prospective buyers that an AD’s infantry tag is there or not.
A full set is a full set. The hang tag is part of the "papers". You either have the full set or you do not. (I consider the coffin and bezel protector as a bonus and not part of the full set, but everything else is.)

If you ask me, then the difference between a watch that has the full set and a watch that does not could easily be $1000 plus.

I would find it annoying in the extreme if an AD flatly refused to hand over papers that rightly belong to me. To be honest it was such a struggle to acquire the watch I have that I would have accepted it if the AD kept part of the papers, as long as I could get the watch, but I would have been very bitter about it. I would on the other hand not blinked an eye if the AD had kept some documents and handed them over later. Taking something and keeping it permanently is on another level as far as I am concerned and demonstrates contempt to the customer.
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Old 20 October 2018, 12:49 PM   #46
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To me it is not about wearing the white hang tag, but if I buy any watch, I want my set to be complete. Period

AD keeping anything when I am there with hard earned cash,would make me re think the whole thing. But that’s me
Totally agree, I'm exactly the same...
I want the whole package if I'm buying at msrp...
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Old 20 October 2018, 01:39 PM   #47
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Some countries Rolex AD keeps the white tag for all the watches till to policy,just like Rolex Japan.
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Old 20 October 2018, 01:43 PM   #48
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some ADs give em, some don't. Not sure what the rhyme or reason is though.
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Old 20 October 2018, 04:23 PM   #49
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A full set is a full set. The hang tag is part of the "papers". You either have the full set or you do not. (I consider the coffin and bezel protector as a bonus and not part of the full set, but everything else is.)

If you ask me, then the difference between a watch that has the full set and a watch that does not could easily be $1000 plus.

I would find it annoying in the extreme if an AD flatly refused to hand over papers that rightly belong to me. To be honest it was such a struggle to acquire the watch I have that I would have accepted it if the AD kept part of the papers, as long as I could get the watch, but I would have been very bitter about it. I would on the other hand not blinked an eye if the AD had kept some documents and handed them over later. Taking something and keeping it permanently is on another level as far as I am concerned and demonstrates contempt to the customer.

I agree. It’s nice to have everything, and as the people we are, most would want to have those bits - it’s what completes the purchase.

The point I was trying to make is that for the most part, your average Joey doesn’t even know about those things. It’s a reference that only our sorts would use anyway.

I have family and friends who own Rolexes, Patek’s, all sorts. Honestly, I could ask them what a full set is, and they wouldn’t know what I’m talking about.


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No and as i heard allready in 2017 from a very reputable grey dealer that some AD s simply don't deliver those with the watch, simple is that, nothing incomplete than imo.. Also what price would it matter if so? 1 dollar? The warranty-card box and watch thats all that matters in my humble opinion...

Yeah, this is exactly what I’m saying in my post.
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Old 20 October 2018, 04:32 PM   #50
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I got the white tags on my DJ41
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Old 20 October 2018, 08:07 PM   #51
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Not sure, but do know I am not one for hype with hot models. Do you think they are keeping the white hang tags on Datejusts?
Yea,, it has nothing to do with ''hot models'' so far as i know. I bought a Explorer 2 5 months or so back and they also refused to putt the white label in... I asked for it though, but he said we can't do it due to policy.
I didnt felt it as a dealbreaker or a problem i mean, policy is policy and AD doesnt deliver it it doesnt matter right? I removed the stickers myself and i throwed them in the bin
I allready known in front of that visit that it was possible that they refued though cause i buyed a 114060 earlier and it hasn't had the tag with it to(new watch) So i asked the grey dealer and he told me some dealers don't putt it in the box due to some reasons. I didn't completely trust that story later on so i asked it to another very reputable guy and he ensured me that that was true and that indeed the white tag could be kept from various AD'S
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Old 20 October 2018, 08:49 PM   #52
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A full set is a full set. The hang tag is part of the "papers". You either have the full set or you do not. (I consider the coffin and bezel protector as a bonus and not part of the full set, but everything else is.)

If you ask me, then the difference between a watch that has the full set and a watch that does not could easily be $1000 plus.

I would find it annoying in the extreme if an AD flatly refused to hand over papers that rightly belong to me. To be honest it was such a struggle to acquire the watch I have that I would have accepted it if the AD kept part of the papers, as long as I could get the watch, but I would have been very bitter about it. I would on the other hand not blinked an eye if the AD had kept some documents and handed them over later. Taking something and keeping it permanently is on another level as far as I am concerned and demonstrates contempt to the customer.
Sure, i would not buy a watch without box+warranty card either.. But the hangtag was the least of my concern when the AD told me it was due to policy he couldn't deliver it to me
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Old 20 October 2018, 08:57 PM   #53
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My BLRO that i purchased 3-4 weeks ago from my AD gave me everything under the sun. I've taken the stickers off countless watches from Rolex before but the BLRO just felt like every millimeter was in plastic! (Not complaining). I even found a sticker or two in the clasp area and one of the side lugs, and ring around the underside of the case back polished part i did not know about.

Yes, it came with Rolex box, signed date papers to me, coffin, green hangtag, white hangtag, and a firm handshake from me saying 'you did it again! thank you thank you thank you for this piece".

the end!

PS: I do find it interesting how some of the coffins have changed over the years and become more streamlined. Maybe to fit the model/bracelet better?
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It varies by AD or by country. Some retain the white hangtags (even previously, when they were still green, with the S/N on a sticker) for inventory purposes. At least that's what I heard and kind of matches my own experience. I doubt this policy comes directly from Rolex.
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Old 20 October 2018, 09:28 PM   #55
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Hopefully I get my BLNR next year but wonder what other conditions they'll impose when I go to pick it up.

Reuters- An employee of Rolex New York is preparing a batch of BLNR's for sale in its stores.
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Reuters- An employee of Rolex New York is preparing a batch of BLNR's for sale in its stores.
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Old 20 October 2018, 10:09 PM   #57
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Reuters- An employee of Rolex New York is preparing a batch of BLNR's for sale in its stores.
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Bought a watch in Turkey and had the same thing. They kept the white tags. Didn't care too much for plastics an left those on!
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Bought a watch in Turkey and had the same thing. They kept the white tags. Didn't care too much for plastics an left those on!
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Old 20 October 2018, 11:27 PM   #60
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What was missing from your 16613? The paper warrantee certificate?
Yup. I thought I had everything from new. The box, bezel protector, tags and everything was pristine and so was the watch as Rikki just serviced it. The entire package looked like it was sitting in a safe for over 20 years but one meaningless piece of paper was worth $500.00.
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