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We all appreciate the work of the hospital staff and their selfless dedication and on a personal basis my thoughts are for your daughter. The PPE situation is a disgrace. |
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4 April 2020, 03:30 AM | #5014 | |
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The peak we have now is an artificial peak. Probably 80-90% of the worlds population have never come into contact with the virus. To me there are two options. Open the doors and hope for self immunity or wait for a year or more for a vaccine. To say we wait for a peak all you're doing is waiting for the people who have already been affected to settle out. But when that happens, do you think the virus is then gone from the planet? Does this virus die out on its own, without any more human contact to spread it? Just asking. |
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4 April 2020, 03:31 AM | #5015 |
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Everyone seem to also assume a vaccine will even work then.....but clearly that isn’t always the case so while many companies are working on it w best estimates a year away one can clearly assume the economy cannot be shutdown for a year . It sad to think this way but ultimately society must go on and maybe the Swedish way is the way to go ...
All around it is a very delicate balancing act for the administration and yeah wear a mask been saying that since day 1. |
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4 April 2020, 03:54 AM | #5019 | |
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1) Person becomes infected, recovers via natural immunity. 2) Person becomes infected, recovers after receiving antiviral agents. 3) Person becomes infected, dies. 4) Person avoids infection after isolating, avoiding infected persons. 5) Person receives vaccine effective against infecting agent |
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In my hometown, NYC, I could see subways being a breeding ground. With a population of over 8 million. NYC looks like something out of a sci-fi movie. It's so sad. Our medical/emergency workers are working around the clock. There's refrigerated trailers used for victims of Covid-19. Pop up hospitals in central park. This is crazy. I pray for this to end. Everyone be safe.
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So are all states in the US on lockdown or are some business as usual?
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4 April 2020, 04:28 AM | #5028 |
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The hardest fact to handle is that we all wish there was another option on the list, something like “virus mutates and becomes less infectious and virulent.” But for now, those are the possible outcomes, and as you can see, all of them will play some role in reaching an end to the pandemic. It WILL end some day. Societies and cultures will resume. Life will return to a normal state.
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Joey this is not to you directly but rather a general expansion of Blanksy’s question based on your response. It appears the whole world must wait for a vaccine in 12-18 months by these options. With so many countries, and states for that matter, at different stages of quarantine, there is no chance of stopping the spread, unless worldwide travel is completely stopped. I’m talking even travel from state to state. If California reports no new cases for a week, what’s to stop some infected people from another state coming in and starting the whole process over again, and infecting the whole group of people that never got infected during the first wave? What’s the long term plan beyond a month or two of quarantine? This is why many on this thread are saying, to hell with it, let’s just get back to work. The economy cannot do this for 12-18 months while waiting for a vaccine. I’m not sure where I fall on the fence. I now know of 2 cases of young healthy fathers (< 42 yrs old) succumbing to COVID-19. Its a scary proposition to open the floodgates, but I’m afraid we are going to have to. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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the fact is that we do not know the future. or how long this will go on, or the ultimate effects on the health of our species, or the economic effects of our world.
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See post 5019. Just one possibility.
I doubt we will have to wait 12-18 months for a vaccine, IMO. |
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It's my understanding that other vaccines have already started human clinical trials.
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We will have to agree to disagree. The 1918 epidemic, World War I, World War II, the atomic bombs, the Great Depression, the Holocaust, AIDS, and so many other challenges. The world comes back. People marry, have children, celebrate happy days, build and rebuild societies. I personally don’t see this pandemic as the end of civilization. JMHO.
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4 April 2020, 05:13 AM | #5035 |
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Recovering from 2 major pandemics over a hundred years apart is quite a feat. The authorities may want to take a look at his/her antibodies.
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The bulk of the economic damage is already inflicted and catastrophic. May as well continue with the shutdown and isolation measures because having a destroyed economy and mass infections is worse than what we have now.
Life is never going to be the way it was prior to this. Some aspects of life will resume, but I see several things economically and culturally being forever changed and not for the better. You are living through a watershed moment in Western society. |
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Well it's strange that before this crisis and with a healthy economy there was not "plenty of money for healthcare" - so I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion.
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Colossal damage has been done to the economy in only the last 2 or 3 weeks, but it is nowhere near destroyed yet. Keeping it closed for 3 months or longer and it very well could be. Mass infections may equate to a massive death toll but without any infrastructure (because of no economy) we could indeed see mass rioting, civil unrest, and global war – Armageddon. (I know this is worst case scenario, but people keep talking about the value of their watch, how much their car is worth, value of their property and don’t realize how close to the edge we really could be.) We are indeed living through a watershed moment in Western society. |
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