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Old 21 March 2023, 07:36 AM   #1
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New Concept and ROO Tourbillon Chrono

I’m surprised back the absence of discussion on these two new releases. Did I miss a thread? Or are people just not inspired?

For clarity’s sake, I’m referring to the 26650TI:




And the 26622CE:


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Old 21 March 2023, 07:58 AM   #2
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It was discussed but likely not been issued yet (or just issued to folks who likely don't frequent TRF):

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=12625573
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Old 21 March 2023, 09:13 AM   #3
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My first thought is a G-shock mixed with RM.
Not my cup of tea but perhaps the young ones like them
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Old 21 March 2023, 10:19 AM   #4
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Priced at $200k for the ti and $300k for the CE, even putting the absurd pricing aside, a swing and a miss for me. Endlessly better options available at these price points. Not to mention the CE is 16mm thick (actually 2mm thicker than my rm030), I can't fathom how clunky that will sit on the wrist.
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Old 21 March 2023, 02:46 PM   #5
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I’ve tried it, it’s a cool watch to look at but like it’s been said before:
- way too big
- way too expensive

We are taking about a very small niche of people interested of buying. I’ll say maybe like the Marvel
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Old 21 March 2023, 02:58 PM   #6
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My first thought is a G-shock mixed with RM.
Not my cup of tea but perhaps the young ones like them
Actually, many of the RM movements are made by AP though.

back to the watches, I did try the one on the top. WAY too big for me.
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Old 21 March 2023, 08:24 PM   #7
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The Concept is fantastic for those with sufficiently large wrists!
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Old 21 March 2023, 11:19 PM   #8
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I’ve tried it, it’s a cool watch to look at but like it’s been said before:
- way too big
- way too expensive

We are taking about a very small niche of people interested of buying. I’ll say maybe like the Marvel

Pretty much nailed it - very targeted market.

That said, I tried on the tourb chrono in Ti and it was honestly and amazing size / weight without being too clunky. The 43mm Offshore format is great


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Old 22 March 2023, 02:13 AM   #9
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My first thought is a G-shock mixed with RM.
Not my cup of tea but perhaps the young ones like them

If these are the new “flagship” models at the top of the line, I’d be a little concerned about trickle down. Setting aside pure hype among the collector community, these have zero aesthetic appeal and look like plastic watches from a department store case. Where is the art, the elegance, the historical precedence, the intricacy of hand engraved movements, the refined craftsmanship? Here again is another attempt by AP to compete apparently with the Urwerk audience. You’d never see Patek Philippe going in this direction.
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Old 22 March 2023, 03:03 AM   #10
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If these are the new “flagship” models at the top of the line, I’d be a little concerned about trickle down. Setting aside pure hype among the collector community, these have zero aesthetic appeal and look like plastic watches from a department store case. Where is the art, the elegance, the historical precedence, the intricacy of hand engraved movements, the refined craftsmanship? Here again is another attempt by AP to compete apparently with the Urwerk audience. You’d never see Patek Philippe going in this direction.

I don’t get your outrage - APs been doing this for like 20 years. Concept and offshore are their experimental lines whereas RO and Code are their more traditional lines. The appeal of these watches is how they wear and visually look in real life. A static photo without seeing how the light is bouncing is nearly worthless.

You’d never see that openworked split chrono in the concept being jammed into an RO and CODE - the type of openworking between those lines are completely different Ie a 15407 movement inside a concept would look very out place.

Movement finishing has definitely moved towards industrialization but that’s largely been the move across all major houses except indies.
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Old 22 March 2023, 03:30 AM   #11
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If these are the new “flagship” models at the top of the line, I’d be a little concerned about trickle down. Setting aside pure hype among the collector community, these have zero aesthetic appeal and look like plastic watches from a department store case. Where is the art, the elegance, the historical precedence, the intricacy of hand engraved movements, the refined craftsmanship? Here again is another attempt by AP to compete apparently with the Urwerk audience. You’d never see Patek Philippe going in this direction.
Or one could say that AP isn't stuck somewhere in the middle of the last century. Btw, I'm sure many here would like to know which department store you're shopping at.
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Old 22 March 2023, 04:57 AM   #12
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If these are the new “flagship” models at the top of the line, I’d be a little concerned about trickle down. Setting aside pure hype among the collector community, these have zero aesthetic appeal and look like plastic watches from a department store case. Where is the art, the elegance, the historical precedence, the intricacy of hand engraved movements, the refined craftsmanship? Here again is another attempt by AP to compete apparently with the Urwerk audience. You’d never see Patek Philippe going in this direction.

You can just have a look at the Code Universel and you will see what AP can achieve
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Old 22 March 2023, 06:42 AM   #13
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I tried on the concept and it’s a million times improved over the prior version in terms of size and wearability. It’s an AP statement that they can outdo RM and btw it’s $100k less expensive than the split seconds RM (trust me I own it)

That said it’s a little hard to read it but maybe my eyes are old !

The green monster on the other hand is a disaster IMHO and my prior version crushes it (clearly biased but still true)
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Old 23 March 2023, 04:33 AM   #14
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Anyone think they will produce a 42mm concept? I would be a buyer on that but 44 is too much for me in the concept case. I assumed after the black panther concept that the 42mm case would be rolled out to regular production. Guess not or hopefully still to come.
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Old 23 March 2023, 05:33 AM   #15
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Anyone think they will produce a 42mm concept? I would be a buyer on that but 44 is too much for me in the concept case. I assumed after the black panther concept that the 42mm case would be rolled out to regular production. Guess not or hopefully still to come.

Yes I think so. I’ve been hassling them to do a 42mm for ages since the Black Panther and I’ve been told there’s no way they do all the R&D on a 42mm format and only release one model which to me means not if but when


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Yes I think so. I’ve been hassling them to do a 42mm for ages since the Black Panther and I’ve been told there’s no way they do all the R&D on a 42mm format and only release one model which to me means not if but when


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