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JCW1980 · 2 August 2013, 02:04 AM

This is a general curiosity that crossed my mind. I did a search and didn't find a previous thread asking this question.

Since picking up a 1016, I've found the matte dial to be very attractive and I find that I prefer the matte dial on tool watches, especially vintage examples. From what I understand, the 1016 was produced through 1989, and it seems like it was the last matte dial production Rolex. Is that true or am I missing one? I know the 5513 was also in production up through 1989, but it went to an exclusively gloss dial in the early 80's right?

joe100 · 2 August 2013, 02:08 AM

Well, the 214270 and black dial 42mm Explorer 2 have matte dials... The 114270 more so however. The era isn't over yet

scottb2 · 2 August 2013, 04:33 AM

last submariner to have a matt dial I believe is the 16800 which was produced from 79-83 .

hope that helps

S

azguy · 2 August 2013, 06:12 AM

yeah, 16800 although I thinks some of the last ones had gloss dials...

esspee1200 · 2 August 2013, 06:31 AM

last of the 5513's was the maxi mk v late 1984 ish.

springer · 2 August 2013, 08:11 AM

1983 was about it for for vintage matte dials to include the GMT 16750 and various Submariners. Interestingly, I also believe it was the end of an era for the acrylic crystals.

rolexaddict0808 · 5 August 2013, 04:27 AM

Hi is this the Matt dial your guys talking about? How would you know if it's radial?

springer · 5 August 2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexaddict0808

Hi is this the Matt dial your guys talking about? How would you know if it's radial?

I think you posted in the wrong thread, although it is a nice dial, it is not a radial dial GMT.

HL65 · 5 August 2013, 11:38 AM

Also the Triple 6 SD 16660 matte dial/acrylic crystal from 83'.

mailman · 5 August 2013, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe100

Well, the 214270 and black dial 42mm Explorer 2 have matte dials... The 114270 more so however. The era isn't over yet

Black dial Milgauss also.

swish77 · 6 August 2013, 02:00 AM

If we're talking about "vintage" matte, I have an '87 acrylic Datejust with a matte blue dial, if that counts.

adam78 · 6 August 2013, 03:52 AM

To the OP, if you had stated "last matte dial of a tool watch without white-gold surrounds", the 1016 would have been correct. I'm wearing mine today! (albeit an earlier non-hacking example)

powerfunk · 7 August 2013, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by springer

1983 was about it for for vintage matte dials to include the GMT 16750 and various Submariners. Interestingly, I also believe it was the end of an era for the acrylic crystals.

Interesting. I always thought the nipple root beer (which is matte) was replaced by the glossy non-nipple dial right around then, but I didn't realize that the whole matte era kind of ended then.

harry in montreal · 7 August 2013, 08:07 AM

Tudor subs seem to have used matte dials until the late 90s. Unless I misremember my 75190. Harry

adam78 · 7 August 2013, 01:18 PM

That's true, the 79090 was made into the early '90s. But he was asking about Rolex...

2 August 2013, 02:04 AM	#1
JCW1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: DFW, TX Watch: Speedmaster Posts: 672	What was the last matte dial Rolex model? This is a general curiosity that crossed my mind. I did a search and didn't find a previous thread asking this question. Since picking up a 1016, I've found the matte dial to be very attractive and I find that I prefer the matte dial on tool watches, especially vintage examples. From what I understand, the 1016 was produced through 1989, and it seems like it was the last matte dial production Rolex. Is that true or am I missing one? I know the 5513 was also in production up through 1989, but it went to an exclusively gloss dial in the early 80's right?

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joe100 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,753	Well, the 214270 and black dial 42mm Explorer 2 have matte dials... The 114270 more so however. The era isn't over yet __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

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springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,193	1983 was about it for for vintage matte dials to include the GMT 16750 and various Submariners. Interestingly, I also believe it was the end of an era for the acrylic crystals. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

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HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,385	Also the Triple 6 SD 16660 matte dial/acrylic crystal from 83'. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

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adam78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,829	To the OP, if you had stated "last matte dial of a tool watch without white-gold surrounds", the 1016 would have been correct. I'm wearing mine today! (albeit an earlier non-hacking example) __________________ Cheers, Adam

2 August 2013, 04:33 AM	#3
scottb2 Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 651	last submariner to have a matt dial I believe is the 16800 which was produced from 79-83 . hope that helps S

2 August 2013, 06:12 AM	#4
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	yeah, 16800 although I thinks some of the last ones had gloss dials...

2 August 2013, 06:31 AM	#5
esspee1200 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 593	last of the 5513's was the maxi mk v late 1984 ish.

5 August 2013, 04:27 AM	#7
rolexaddict0808 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: manila Posts: 112	Hi is this the Matt dial your guys talking about? How would you know if it's radial?

7 August 2013, 08:07 AM	#14
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	Tudor subs seem to have used matte dials until the late 90s. Unless I misremember my 75190. Harry

7 August 2013, 01:18 PM	#15
adam78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,829	That's true, the 79090 was made into the early '90s. But he was asking about Rolex... __________________ Cheers, Adam

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