Nightmare 1665

[DadsWatch72]

I found a DRSD with the same "blank spot" on the Rolex coronet (metioned on page 11 of this thread). Its a Mark III also, serial #3543141. My serial # is 3551XXX. Their DRSD has a bevel on the case that mine doesn't have. I'm not sure if it came this way from Rolex and I thought it was original to Submariners only.

BTW, I received a call from RUSA tonight at about 7:15pm. They said that my request for a copy of the service agreement/work order from 1995 took some time to find but they would send a copy or type something up for me. It should include all the work that was done in the 95' service. It should be here next week she said.

[Speed Metal Army]

Wow...Crazy nice watch.

[DadsWatch72]

Originally Posted by Speed Metal Army

Wow...Crazy nice watch.

Thanks Speed.

[chriseskew24]

Please wear that watch in memory of your Father.. I dont care what it is worth monatarly the memories are priceless.. As you see if you wear it and ding it up , it can be brought back to life..

[DadsWatch72]

I think that I am the first person to ever discover the "blank spot". I thought it was possibly a piece of paint that flaked off of my crown for a while. Now I know its a printing anomaly. I was just reading an article about the Mark II dial being called a "smudge dial". Maybe we can call my Mark III a "blank spot dial"? Or maybe the "Broken Crown" dial?

[CaveDiver]

wow, nice watch. $825 for new bracelet? I see asking price this much and more for used. Will they sell one without a trade like yours? Did you have any problems with them finding a history of service from 1995? I called and asked about my sub service in 1995 and they acted like nothing existed. However, all I had was a card.

BTW, did you change the bracelet in those last set of photos?

[DadsWatch72]

Originally Posted by CaveDiver

wow, nice watch. $825 for new bracelet? I see asking price this much and more for used. Will they sell one without a trade like yours? Did you have any problems with them finding a history of service from 1995? I called and asked about my sub service in 1995 and they acted like nothing existed. However, all I had was a card.

BTW, did you change the bracelet in those last set of photos?

Thanks Cave. The pictures above in the last set are not all of my watch. #1, #3, and #5 are pictures of another watch that I was comparing to my watch. If I had not sent in my bracelet, I guess that they would still have sold one to me. I didn't want to send it in without the bracelet. I think it would have seemed as if I were trying to hide something so I sent it in.

I have had problems with them finding information on an old service depending on who I spoke with at RUSA. I still have the warranty card but its in the bank and I don't remember the job number without it. They told me that they have problems printing information that old since the computer system that they use has changed. I am still waiting for some information regarding my service in 95 and expect it soon in the mail. I was told the information will be typed by hand.

[JimSnyder]

Originally Posted by DadsWatch72

It calls to me. I want to wear it! I miss wearing it. I have been thinking of selling it though. If I keep it in the condition it came back from the service center then it will be more desireable so I don't wear it. When I make up my mind to either keep it, or sell it.....then I will do one or the other. Some have said they sold theirs and never looked back. I just don't know if I would regret it or not. For now I like having something so unique. I can say...."I have a Double Red". Thats pretty cool to me. If I sell it, I know I will never be able to own another.

You have a once in a lifetime watch and it was your fathers. You only live once. How many can say my watch was a DRSD. Wear it and enjoy it. It is special

[CaveDiver]

thanks Dad's

I called both Dallas and NY Rolex Service. The ladies that answered the phone sounded like they were reading from a teleprompter. I gave them the SN and they put me on hold for 5 sec and nope.. nothing.. Kinda disturbing to me. I got the feeling they were not looking in the right place. Dallas said their records only went back around 10 years.. They said to try NY since it was serviced there and I pretty much got the same response. How are you having so much success? If I remember correctly you got yours serviced at Dallas RSC?? They are local to me and I asked if I could come down and buy a bracelet. I got the same response we most likely can not service your watch as it is to old and no parts and we will not mix parts.. uggg..I just want to buy a new bracelet.. How did you have so much success with them?
Does your service card from 1995 look like this one? I think part of my problem is there is no Job Number on the card. They asked for that.. I seriously doubt my dad sent it to NY, but the place in Daytona may have punted and sent it to them. The card is all I have.

Scroll down through the first set of photos.
http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....16&postcount=1

Thanks

[DadsWatch72]

Originally Posted by CaveDiver

thanks Dad's

I called both Dallas and NY Rolex Service. The ladies that answered the phone sounded like they were reading from a teleprompter. I gave them the SN and they put me on hold for 5 sec and nope.. nothing.. Kinda disturbing to me. I got the feeling they were not looking in the right place. Dallas said their records only went back around 10 years.. They said to try NY since it was serviced there and I pretty much got the same response. How are you having so much success? If I remember correctly you got yours serviced at Dallas RSC?? They are local to me and I asked if I could come down and buy a bracelet. I got the same response we most likely can not service your watch as it is to old and no parts and we will not mix parts.. uggg..I just want to buy a new bracelet.. How did you have so much success with them?
Does your service card from 1995 look like this one? I think part of my problem is there is no Job Number on the card. They asked for that.. I seriously doubt my dad sent it to NY, but the place in Daytona may have punted and sent it to them. The card is all I have.

Scroll down through the first set of photos.
http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....16&postcount=1

Thanks

My service card from Dallas doesn't look the same as yours and mine has the Reference/Job Number printed on the card with my serial number. Its very important to have that number. I have talked with several people about this service information and if it could be sent to me. I had given the information to NYC at the beginning of my recent service. They remembered me and the watch when the information request was forwarded from Dallas to them. Only then was it located again and I was told it might take some time but it would be sent to me. Without the reference number, you might have a problem since the computer system is different now. Good luck.

[mixz1]

Originally Posted by jdc

...If it was a new watch I would send it to Rolex however Rolex USA will not service it as it is too old (as others have said). You are flogging a dead horse trying to get a Rolex service...

Please define "too old". I was unaware of the US restriction. I have an early 60s 18 K Day/Date (580XXX) and a 1967 5513 (168XXXX) meters first. Are they too old?

[DadsWatch72]

You may find these links helpful in defining "Vintage". You will most likely have trouble getting Rolex to service your watches. I was determined and somewhat lucky getting RUSA to service my watch. As I said earlier in this thread......."They didn't consider my watch vintage because of the history of service and when it was last serviced. My dial and hands are in great condition so this didn't prevent them from servicing. I had no aftermarket parts on the watch. The parts that I needed were available to them. If you have an older watch I suggest you call them and explain the situation to them. There is no guarantee of service and each case is unique. Don't expect service based on the fact that I had mine serviced."


http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...hlight=vintage
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...hlight=vintage
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...hlight=vintage
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...hlight=vintage
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=105878

[DadsWatch72]

Here are some pictures of the original bracelet. I finally found a camera that works well. These are from a Fuji Film 2000HD.

[DadsWatch72]

More bracelet pictures. In the second picture here, you can see the top end link is bent on the right side. The bottom end link is fine. What does the 1/72 mean? Does this mean it was made in January of 72'?

[DadsWatch72]

Here is one of the clasp that shows little tears on the prongs.

[CaveDiver]

I believe that is the date.
Did you get the history report from Rolex?

[PhilM]

I'm pretty sure the 1/72 means that it was made in the first quarter of 72, similar to how they stamp the inside of case backs

[DadsWatch72]

Originally Posted by CaveDiver

I believe that is the date.
Did you get the history report from Rolex?

I wasn't given a history report. It seems that I read somewhere that you can only get that information from Geneva, maybe.

[DadsWatch72]

Originally Posted by PhilM

I'm pretty sure the 1/72 means that it was made in the first quarter of 72, similar to how they stamp the inside of case backs

Ah, thanks. I have never seen the inside of the case back. I don't have a tool to take it off and I wouldn't want to jeopardize the preasure testing warranty by opening it up. I am curious to look but I'm sure the numbers are where they are suppose to be under there.

[CaveDiver]

Originally Posted by DadsWatch72

I wasn't given a history report. It seems that I read somewhere that you can only get that information from Geneva, maybe.

I thought they were typing it up by hand and sending it to you?

[CaveDiver]

My C&I USA says 7-72.. So not sure about the quarter thing..

[DadsWatch72]

Angles that I missed yesterday.

[DadsWatch72]

Originally Posted by CaveDiver

I thought they were typing it up by hand and sending it to you?

I have been waiting since December 2nd for the information from the service that was done in Dallas in 95', not the watch history. Joanna said that she was swamped due to the holidays and was just now getting to my request (on the 2nd). I told her to take her time and that I wasn't in a hurry for the information. I had hoped to receive it by now. I did tell her to take her time though.

One more pic of the prongs.

[DadsWatch72]

Originally Posted by CaveDiver

My C&I USA says 7-72.. So not sure about the quarter thing..

I found this 9315 on ebay. The yellowish pictures are not mine and are the bracelet on Ebay. It says the date is marked with the letter B. I don't see it. I just noticed something. I'm missing a letter N on the word patented.

It says PATETED (no letter B) and NOT PATENTED. WOW.

http://cgi.ebay.ph/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=250542254980

Also, my divers link is a little different than the one on Ebay.

[CaveDiver]

I thought the Swiss could spell "PATETED" lol.. something you expect from China

I think I have seen that before though.. Someone out there will say it is rare and worth even more bucks

[DadsWatch72]

Originally Posted by CaveDiver

I thought the Swiss could spell "PATETED" lol.. something you expect from China

I think I have seen that before though.. Someone out there will say it is rare and worth even more bucks

Cool Beans, because the watch itself isn't worth very much.

[CaveDiver]

I think i saw 200 bucks

[DadsWatch72]

Originally Posted by CaveDiver

I think i saw 200 bucks

For $200, you can hold it....with gloves on.

[DadsWatch72]

So I guess the watch is a DRSDDM (Double Red Sea Dweller Double Misprint). A broken crown and a missing N.

[CaveDiver]

^^
could be worse. It could be China knock off with correct spelling

BTW, I think the letter is located in a place were there is no pic for the ebay bracelet