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Old 17 August 2019, 09:06 AM   #1
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Help with my New 1675 GMT

Hi there, I just acquired my first vintage Rolex and wanted to get your opinion of my 1973 GMT. I picked it up from it’s original owner who said the the watched was serviced over the years but kept mainly original. Dial looks good but the hands seem to have aged differently. Came on a 78360 bracelet with 580 end links. Let me know your thoughts and I appreciate any feedback.
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Old 17 August 2019, 10:25 AM   #2
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My thoughts are - Its yours!

But depending on the price: its a hooked 2 insert and should be replaced immediately, post haste. Later bracelet and endlinks. Lume on the MKII dial looks a little flaky. This coupled with the lack of lume on the GMT hand suggests you might want to have a watchmaker look at the movement and also make sure whomever had it before you had the lume that flaked off removed from the inside of the watch.

I don't know what you paid but it needs work, which is fine at the right price -its a vintage piece...
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Old 17 August 2019, 10:38 AM   #3
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I like it! Looks like an honest example with a little wear and tear. I believe the bracelet is correct based on the numbers, although as I write this I'm thinking it's a later model bracelet but still used for GMTs. Based on the year of the watch it might be more correct with a 7836 bracelet or a 7206 (80 endlinks? IDK) with the rivets. Strange GMT hand with Black lume or is the tritium knocked out? Insert is a fake, you can tell by the hook on the 2s. Dial and hands, I have no idea, too fuzzy but there is definitely something going on there too. Are the hands yellow gold? If so not correct. That's all I got but let's wait for the real experts, whom should be along shortly after they read my erroneous description...
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Old 17 August 2019, 10:48 AM   #4
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I like it! Looks like an honest example with a little wear and tear. I believe the bracelet is correct based on the numbers, although as I write this I'm thinking it's a later model bracelet but still used for GMTs. Based on the year of the watch it might be more correct with a 7836 bracelet or a 7206 (80 endlinks? IDK) with the rivets. Strange GMT hand with Black lume or is the tritium knocked out? Insert is a fake, you can tell by the hook on the 2s. Dial and hands, I have no idea, too fuzzy but there is definitely something going on there too. Are the hands yellow gold? If so not correct. That's all I got but let's wait for the real experts, whom should be along shortly after they read my erroneous description...
1973 is too late for a 7206 rivet bracelet with 58 end links. You were correct with the 7836 probably being the original bracelet.

Your comment on the possibility of "black lume" found on the strange 24-hour hand made my day.
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Old 17 August 2019, 11:44 AM   #5
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My thoughts are - Its yours!

But depending on the price: its a hooked 2 insert and should be replaced immediately, post haste. Later bracelet and endlinks. Lume on the MKII dial looks a little flaky. This coupled with the lack of lume on the GMT hand suggests you might want to have a watchmaker look at the movement and also make sure whomever had it before you had the lume that flaked off removed from the inside of the watch.

I don't know what you paid but it needs work, which is fine at the right price -its a vintage piece...
The seller was local to me and said that his wife was making him sell it. His price was very fair and so I jumped at the opportunity. I knew the black insert was a replacement but I did not know it was incorrect and I will definitely change it out. My only concern is that the hands have aged differently than the dial and that the color of the hands now have almost a shade of green to them and so I am wondering if they have been relumed or is it possible that they just aged that way?
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Old 17 August 2019, 01:15 PM   #6
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The seller was local to me and said that his wife was making him sell it. His price was very fair and so I jumped at the opportunity. I knew the black insert was a replacement but I did not know it was incorrect and I will definitely change it out. My only concern is that the hands have aged differently than the dial and that the color of the hands now have almost a shade of green to them and so I am wondering if they have been relumed or is it possible that they just aged that way?
I'd go with they aged that way but the most common reason is moisture ingress. Again, kick down the loot and go to a watchmaker (there's a good list here) and have the watch properly looked at and serviced if you're going to keep it, the right watchmaker can get the lume on your hands sorted out as well.
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Old 17 August 2019, 03:10 PM   #7
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1973 is too late for a 7206 rivet bracelet with 58 end links. You were correct with the 7836 probably being the original bracelet.

Your comment on the possibility of "black lume" found on the strange 24-hour hand made my day.
Hahahaha! My comments are always a mix of nearly accurate to ridiculous. Although I suppose a broken clock is still right at least twice a day but maybe not a GMT.
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Old 17 August 2019, 07:30 PM   #8
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It all depends on the price in which you got the dial.
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