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cody10911 · 3 December 2007, 09:14 AM

I am still considering buying a no date sub. However, I do have a question. Why is the movement on this watch not COSC certified. Are the 2008 models going to be certified? just curious what is the reason for this and should this be a reason not to buy the watch.
thanks

Baptistman · 3 December 2007, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cody10911

I am still considering buying a no date sub. However, I do have a question. Why is the movement on this watch not COSC certified. Are the 2008 models going to be certified? just curious what is the reason for this and should this be a reason not to buy the watch.
thanks

The Movement used in the Classic Sub (14060M) is a a chronometer based movement which simply has not been sent to COSC for certification. Maybe for cost reasons or to keep in line with the original sub. However the new Z series coming out are now COSC certified. Either way this watch is a beaut in its own class.

mike · 3 December 2007, 09:24 AM

The latest example do indeed carry COSC certification. One wonders if this is a sleeper watch should Rolex redesign the sub line.

frostie · 3 December 2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mike

The latest example do indeed carry COSC certification. One wonders if this is a sleeper watch should Rolex redesign the sub line.

Imagina that watch with a ceramic bezel. I think it would look cool

Jocke · 3 December 2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Baptistman

The Movement used in the Classic Sub (14060M) is a a chronometer based movement which simply has not been sent to COSC for certification. Maybe for cost reasons or to keep in line with the original sub. However the new Z series coming out are now COSC certified. Either way this watch is a beaut in its own class.

Wrong movement it should say 3130, so here you
have the detailed version.

Jocke

ShawnK · 3 December 2007, 11:20 AM

If I were in the market for a 14060m, I would try to pick up one of the remaining non-COSC models. I've seen the newer version, and the "superlative chronometer" text on the dial just ruins the classic no-date sub dial--IMHO.

The one thing I really liked about the no-date was the clean, classic looking dial. As for the movement, I think anyone on the forum who has owned one will attest that they just as precise as any Rolex movement that wears the COSC label.

SPACE-DWELLER · 3 December 2007, 07:55 PM

Here are some pics of the COSC rated Sub.

COSC rating is IMHO more marketing hype than a true indicator of the precision of a watch since almost any modern mechanical movt. can be regulated to run with COSC specs (minus 4 to plus 6 secs.).

Teofilo · 4 December 2007, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ShawnK

If I were in the market for a 14060m, I would try to pick up one of the remaining non-COSC models. I've seen the newer version, and the "superlative chronometer" text on the dial just ruins the classic no-date sub dial--IMHO.

The one thing I really liked about the no-date was the clean, classic looking dial. As for the movement, I think anyone on the forum who has owned one will attest that they just as precise as any Rolex movement that wears the COSC label.

I wear my 14060m every day and just love it to bits. I get a real sense of joy whenever it goes on my wrist.

Tools · 4 December 2007, 10:00 AM

It's perfect for any occassion....

karmatp · 4 December 2007, 11:17 AM

It is the same movement that is in the Explorer and that model has the COSC cert., also the newer M model 14060M's have the same movement of the non COSC cert movement. It's a fantastic movement and probably one of the most accurate Rolex movements they make with or without the silly COSC cert. It truly is just marketing, don't let it sway you decision to purchase a non COSC 14060M.

Alcan · 4 December 2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tools

It's perfect for any occassion....

Yup.

SPACE-DWELLER · 4 December 2007, 06:20 PM

Yes, even perfect for an avatar!

ggbrown · 4 December 2007, 11:19 PM

LOL

I see these pics and think "Wow! Sweet watch!"

Then I look at my wrist and think "oohhh lucky, lucky me!"

Thanks Al!!

G

frostie · 5 December 2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ggbrown

LOL

I see these pics and think "Wow! Sweet watch!"

Then I look at my wrist and think "oohhh lucky, lucky me!"

Thanks Al!!

G

Teofilo · 5 December 2007, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ggbrown

LOL

I see these pics and think "Wow! Sweet watch!"

Then I look at my wrist and think "oohhh lucky, lucky me!"

Thanks Al!!

G

morgman · 5 December 2007, 07:47 AM

It is a sweet, clean watch, and was my first Rolex, however I would pick the SD over it for the date, thicker crystal, and better bracelet!

3 December 2007, 09:14 AM	#1
cody10911 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ardmore Posts: 74	sub question I am still considering buying a no date sub. However, I do have a question. Why is the movement on this watch not COSC certified. Are the 2008 models going to be certified? just curious what is the reason for this and should this be a reason not to buy the watch. thanks

3 December 2007, 07:55 PM	#7
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Here are some pics of the COSC rated Sub. COSC rating is IMHO more marketing hype than a true indicator of the precision of a watch since almost any modern mechanical movt. can be regulated to run with COSC specs (minus 4 to plus 6 secs.). __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

4 December 2007, 06:20 PM	#12
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Yes, even perfect for an avatar! __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

3 December 2007, 09:24 AM	#3
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	The latest example do indeed carry COSC certification. One wonders if this is a sleeper watch should Rolex redesign the sub line.

3 December 2007, 11:20 AM	#6
ShawnK "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Shawn Location: Kentucky Watch: GMT Master 16750 Posts: 222	If I were in the market for a 14060m, I would try to pick up one of the remaining non-COSC models. I've seen the newer version, and the "superlative chronometer" text on the dial just ruins the classic no-date sub dial--IMHO. The one thing I really liked about the no-date was the clean, classic looking dial. As for the movement, I think anyone on the forum who has owned one will attest that they just as precise as any Rolex movement that wears the COSC label.

4 December 2007, 10:00 AM	#9
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,049	It's perfect for any occassion....

4 December 2007, 11:17 AM	#10
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	It is the same movement that is in the Explorer and that model has the COSC cert., also the newer M model 14060M's have the same movement of the non COSC cert movement. It's a fantastic movement and probably one of the most accurate Rolex movements they make with or without the silly COSC cert. It truly is just marketing, don't let it sway you decision to purchase a non COSC 14060M.

4 December 2007, 11:19 PM	#13
ggbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Grant Location: Canada Watch: SS Submariner ND Posts: 123	LOL I see these pics and think "Wow! Sweet watch!" Then I look at my wrist and think "oohhh lucky, lucky me!" Thanks Al!! G

5 December 2007, 07:47 AM	#16
morgman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 475	It is a sweet, clean watch, and was my first Rolex, however I would pick the SD over it for the date, thicker crystal, and better bracelet!

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