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harvey · 22 March 2018, 05:32 PM

Just like the improvements to the explorer I...the new is better.

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omx5o · 22 March 2018, 05:39 PM

Strictly speaking, the 116660 reference has been discontinued. So at least that prediction was half right.

RolexJohn · 22 March 2018, 09:20 PM

I would be absolutely gutted, as I suspect you are.
My commiserations

fixinbones · 22 March 2018, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

Not sure I like the thinner Ring Lock Text, always thought that was a fake tell. But do like the tighter dial text.

Yeah, the bolder text on the mk I is much nicer. I do like the wider bracelet on the new model. I don't have any problem with the narrower bracelet but the new one is definitely better proportioned to the watch.

Rolexsd4000 · 23 March 2018, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepsea_dblue

Rolex Updated the DEEPSEA D-BLUE at Baselworld2018. I knew something would happen with the DEEPSEA, that’s why mine just got in before Basel. But should I feel sad since mine is like just 4 weeks old? NO WAY. Why? Because this is the 1st generation of the James Cameron DEEPSEA D-BLUE. The 1st generation. Yes. The DEEPSEA (D-BLUE) Heritage just started on 21-3-2018

Thank you Rolex 

After research and my own observations let’s discuss the updates:

- Bracele, Lugs, Oysterlock

- Crown protectors?

- Printed crown at 6 o’clock

- Font change on the RING LOCK (prefer the more vintage, fat classic one)

- Overall more fat font on the updated dial?

- New movement (not visible)

- DEEPSEA in chromalisplay?

- Less lume area on the (new) hourhand

- Don’t forget the bottom writings…not visible yet..

The six o'clock marker is narrower than the vintage marker. Also the 9 o'clock marker . Plus the 12 triangle marker is pointier.

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yxc145 · 23 March 2018, 05:16 AM

I had to look really hard to see the difference in bracelet. Looks like the center link is slightly wider. The font and the crown at 6 o'clock are the only other two I can tell the difference.

yxc145 · 23 March 2018, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DoctorA

I like the first generation more! Plus that crown between “Swiss made” is a real eye sore!!

ha ha, true. no need for two crowns on the dial.

Basque1 · 24 March 2018, 08:57 AM

Honestly these changes don't make much difference to me, at 40,000 ft from the air no one will really care unless you are such a purist that will use a micrometer and a microscope to identify these changes. My 1st gen is on the way to me now, and I think that the premium for the 2nd gen is not worth it to go to the 2nd gen. Another plot from Rolex to make you change and or buy the new one. Very much like Apple and their Iphones

Nice comparison by the way!!

Dirt · 24 March 2018, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepsea_dblue

Rolex Updated the DEEPSEA D-BLUE at Baselworld2018. I knew something would happen with the DEEPSEA, that’s why mine just got in before Basel. But should I feel sad since mine is like just 4 weeks old? NO WAY. Why? Because this is the 1st generation of the James Cameron DEEPSEA D-BLUE. The 1st generation. Yes. The DEEPSEA (D-BLUE) Heritage just started on 21-3-2018

Thank you Rolex 

After research and my own observations let’s discuss the updates:
- Bracele, Lugs, Oysterlock
- Crown protectors?
- Printed crown at 6 o’clock
- Font change on the RING LOCK (prefer the more vintage, fat classic one)
- Overall more fat font on the updated dial?
- New movement (not visible)
- DEEPSEA in chromalisplay?
- Less lume area on the (new) hourhand
- Don’t forget the bottom writings…not visible yet..

Excellent

jcs2000 · 24 March 2018, 10:15 AM

I liked it before and now I like it even more to buy. Either version still works. It is the size and the unique gradient dial that make the watch.

Basque1 · 30 March 2018, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bojinns

i love either...guess will have to get in line to purchase...when can we expect to see them at our ADs?

I was told two versions, one is by the end of this summer, and the next one is Sept 2019.

bigdavep · 30 March 2018, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by simon_keyes

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I’m able to purchase the gen 1 this weekend but now in a quandary to decide if I hold for gen 2............

I think I'd be inclined to wait tbh. The changes to the new one will no doubt hurt the resale value of the old one should you ever decide its not for you. If it were just a few visual changes then I don't think it'd be as much of a problem but with it coming with then new movement, I certainly see people putting more more value in it.

Then I guess it depends on how available the new "improved" model is...

MCOSUB · 30 March 2018, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdavep

I think I'd be inclined to wait tbh. The changes to the new one will no doubt hurt the resale value of the old one should you ever decide its not for you. If it were just a few visual changes then I don't think it'd be as much of a problem but with it coming with then new movement, I certainly see people putting more more value in it.

Then I guess it depends on how available the new "improved" model is...

I dont think I will ever be worried about the value of the MK1 Rolex SS sport models. (i.e. sub, sea dweller, gmt, deep sea, etc.)

History has shown that MK1 watches are highly desirable.

Wiener48 · 30 March 2018, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCOSUB

History has shown that MK1 watches are highly desirable.

Agree, totaly agree!

Jinson · 30 March 2018, 11:55 PM

The small crown between Swiss Made appears distracting whereas the look is more balanced on the MK1.

samson66 · 31 March 2018, 12:10 AM

LOVE the new wider bracelet!

Toivonen · 31 March 2018, 03:52 AM

crystal thickness is now 5.5, was 5.0 mm in the 116660!

antbkny · 31 March 2018, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toivonen

crystal thickness is now 5.5, was 5.0 mm in the 116660!

always was 5.5mm

bt430 · 31 March 2018, 07:25 AM

Got an old one coming in this week. I think it'll be just fine. How can you really go wrong?

Golf&Watches · 31 March 2018, 07:30 AM

Both good. Though "error" 1st gen shall be "the" one when its retired in 30 years.
Maybe? 👍😎

Toivonen · 31 March 2018, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antbkny

always was 5.5mm

absolutely not

https://www.rolex.com/content/dam/rolexcom/e-brochures/rolex-deepsea/rolex_rolex-deepsea_en.pdf

zjd168 · 31 March 2018, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toivonen

absolutely not

https://www.rolex.com/content/dam/rolexcom/e-brochures/rolex-deepsea/rolex_rolex-deepsea_en.pdf

cool, thanks for sharing.

antbkny · 31 March 2018, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toivonen

absolutely not
https://www.rolex.com/content/dam/ro...deepsea_en.pdf

i think it depends on where it is measured at. The thickest part of the dome is 5.5 and from the sides 5. If you do a search here or google you’ll see many references stating 5.5 since introduction. Can someone confirm?

lowmandfl · 1 April 2018, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antbkny

i think it depends on where it is measured at. The thickest part of the dome is 5.5 and from the sides 5. If you do a search here or google you’ll see many references stating 5.5 since introduction. Can someone confirm?

Anthony is correct, it's always been 5.5mm.

With a diameter of 44mm, 48mm when you include the oversize crown, it stands some 17.7mm high. The sapphire crystal alone measures 5.5mm, the thickness of some dress watches.

https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-bl...er-116660.html

Valhala · 1 April 2018, 03:38 AM

Both good.. if its your first deepsea then get the newer version

ABChop · 3 April 2018, 01:08 AM

Great comparison!
I’m sure the wider bracelet will be an improvement....as I wear mine with the Rubber B the most, and I prefer how it feels.
And yes, historically speaking, the 1st version should be more valuable in the future....but only time will tell. ��

misterbass · 3 April 2018, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simon_keyes

Subscribed
I’m able to purchase the gen 1 this weekend but now in a quandary to decide if I hold for gen 2............

The 'upgrades' between 1 and 2 don't bother me - I bought the Gen 1 black Deepsea and I didn't notice the tapered bracelet before I bought it. Only when I saw mentions of this on forums, did I think "oh yeah, so it is". Still doesn't bother me now. Regarding the extra power reserve, I wear the watch either the odd day here and there so it generally stops before I put it back on so makes no odds. If you're happy to hang on, buy the gen 2, if you want it now, buy the gen 1. Is this from an AD?

woof · 3 April 2018, 01:41 AM

I think this was Rolex's way of introducing the JCD in Basel world since it rushed the intro on the 1st gen. I like the 1st gen.

ALF61 · 3 April 2018, 01:58 AM

The inscriptions in the old dial are more spaced out and I like this better.

oldsalt · 3 April 2018, 08:47 AM

The dial...

22 March 2018, 05:32 PM	#31
harvey "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rolexforums.com Posts: 5,371	Just like the improvements to the explorer I...the new is better. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ And ever has it been that love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation.

24 March 2018, 08:57 AM	#38
Basque1 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Rockland Co. NY Watch: GMT Master 1973ca Posts: 231	Honestly these changes don't make much difference to me, at 40,000 ft from the air no one will really care unless you are such a purist that will use a micrometer and a microscope to identify these changes. My 1st gen is on the way to me now, and I think that the premium for the 2nd gen is not worth it to go to the 2nd gen. Another plot from Rolex to make you change and or buy the new one. Very much like Apple and their Iphones Nice comparison by the way!! __________________ *[SIZE="4"]Basque1[/SIZE]*

31 March 2018, 03:52 AM	#47
Toivonen "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Vittorio Location: Italy Watch: SeaDweller Deepsea Posts: 986	crystal thickness is now 5.5, was 5.0 mm in the 116660! __________________ No HEV? No Party!!! If you LOVE the Sea Dweller... Join the "BDV" https://www.instagram.com/bandadellavalvola/ https://www.facebook.com/bandadellavalvola/ http://orologi.forumfree.it/?t=75294392

3 April 2018, 01:08 AM	#56
ABChop "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 671	Great comparison! I’m sure the wider bracelet will be an improvement....as I wear mine with the Rubber B the most, and I prefer how it feels. And yes, historically speaking, the 1st version should be more valuable in the future....but only time will tell. �� __________________ - "M" 16600 Sea-Dweller - "A" GMT 16700. -“A” 16613LB Sub - 1680 Red Sub, Mark II, "Full Set" - 116660 DSSD D-Blue, 124060, 126613LN, 116710BLNR - 116500LN White Dial - “U” 16610 “SWISS” dial

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22 March 2018, 05:39 PM	#32
omx5o "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: UK Watch: Milgauss GV Posts: 1,610	Strictly speaking, the 116660 reference has been discontinued. So at least that prediction was half right.

22 March 2018, 09:20 PM	#33
RolexJohn Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Wapping Posts: 4	I would be absolutely gutted, as I suspect you are. My commiserations

23 March 2018, 05:16 AM	#36
yxc145 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: David Location: Chicago Watch: SkyD,JC, BLNR, Ex2 Posts: 1,578	I had to look really hard to see the difference in bracelet. Looks like the center link is slightly wider. The font and the crown at 6 o'clock are the only other two I can tell the difference.

24 March 2018, 10:15 AM	#40
jcs2000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Jacksonville, FL Watch: Sky-Dweller Posts: 55	I liked it before and now I like it even more to buy. Either version still works. It is the size and the unique gradient dial that make the watch.

30 March 2018, 11:55 PM	#45
Jinson 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: West Coast Watch: Older GMTs & Subs Posts: 564	The small crown between Swiss Made appears distracting whereas the look is more balanced on the MK1.

31 March 2018, 12:10 AM	#46
samson66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: Eastern Shore, MD Watch: my money leaving! Posts: 12,894	LOVE the new wider bracelet!

31 March 2018, 07:25 AM	#49
bt430 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Posts: 57	Got an old one coming in this week. I think it'll be just fine. How can you really go wrong?

31 March 2018, 07:30 AM	#50
Golf&Watches "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Global Watch: 116719 Posts: 480	Both good. Though "error" 1st gen shall be "the" one when its retired in 30 years. Maybe? 👍😎

1 April 2018, 03:38 AM	#55
Valhala Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Earth Posts: 419	Both good.. if its your first deepsea then get the newer version

3 April 2018, 01:41 AM	#58
woof "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: san francisco Watch: SS daytona, Hulk, Posts: 1,297	I think this was Rolex's way of introducing the JCD in Basel world since it rushed the intro on the 1st gen. I like the 1st gen.

3 April 2018, 01:58 AM	#59
ALF61 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Middle America Posts: 1,085	The inscriptions in the old dial are more spaced out and I like this better.

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