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23 March 2018, 01:55 AM | #61 | ||
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D-blue line up. Just like any other Rolex watch models. Submariner, for example. Every new model is improved, although very similar, it is still considered a new model. Submariner is still there. But previous generations of Submariners were definitely discontinued. Some people might think for a model to be discontinued, the entire line has to disappear. But that's not the case. |
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Lol, well I just noticed the price jumps all over the place on them, and maybe should have asked the question differently. Was just wondering if this was kind of the norm for Rolexes when they make a change. Old models go up in price. Even if it isn't a trend. Simple! |
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23 March 2018, 02:39 AM | #66 | |
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I am glad that they haven't dropped historically as you said when movements are changed, etc. Good information! Thank You |
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23 March 2018, 02:45 AM | #68 | |
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23 March 2018, 02:47 AM | #69 | |
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I never thought the bracelet needed to be bigger, but when I see the new one in real time I will decide. I am staying positive. Thanks |
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Past Professional models have typically moved ~ in line to have aftermarket prices equal or greater than min of initial msrp and in some cases in line with current models. Once a model is done production, obviously the supply is Finite and fixed. Hence premium. Nothing overly complicated.
Btw, I thought I clicked on an April Fools thread. I must've been up too late reading on Basel releases I guess and my eyes are playing tricks on me |
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Sorry again you like to antagonize strangers on the internet over purchase by making up stories about their lives and finances. It’s been a great couple years in the market; can’t imagine anyone seriously buying watches to make money when they could throw darts at a list of stocks and make so much more. Though, on second thought, my 5711 and 5131r have appreciated quite a bit, thanks. |
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23 March 2018, 05:53 AM | #74 |
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I think the new deep sea is how it should of been the first time around and that may make the original less desirable, the watch will always have value but will gain less over time than certain other models.
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23 March 2018, 11:59 AM | #75 | |
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What i like about this forum is the respect everyone shows each other no matter the taste or opinion.... thats all im going to say............. for the record i like the new deep blue more then the old one... now id consider getting another but in the new revamped design, i have no interest in getting the older one again as the upgrades that they have done fixed the reasons i got rid of my old one.... I put a rubber B on tang buckle on mine to make it more proportionate on the wrist and at the end of the day i didnt spend all that money on it not to have it on a bracelet hence i got rid of it.... I think the prices will fall now that the deep blue is a standard production model.... they were commanding a premium over the standard black because of the dial and the fact the rumour mill ran wild with "it'll be discontinued"..... now that the fact its staying i think will hurt the premium that the blue dial has as its not going away any time soon thats my 2 cents for what its worth(not usually much lol)
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There will always be 1 commemorative d-blue, and there is no denying that. Just check the last frontier book
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However consider this, how many people will be even aware of the book in the fullness of time? Also what defines the commemorative version? Is it the dial alone? I would say so. The new watch now has all the imaginable upgrades and just a little bit more. Let me list them. The movement. The Bracelet and Clasp width. The SELs. The Pip on the Bezel (unexpected) but i assume it now has the same part number all things being equal. The longer Hour hand and possibly the Minute hand as well (also unexpected). I won't include the wider outside dimention of the lugs as it would be difficult to necessarily describe it as an upgrade per se. It's more of a consequence of the 1mm wider Bracelet and balancing the desire to maintain the balance of proportions of the original lugs. |
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I love my JC. I never would have noticed that the band is a bit skinny if others hadn’t mentioned it. Regardless it doesn’t bother me and didn’t prevent me from buying the watch in the first place. Is it possible that the wider band will look better or be more comfortable on a wrist? Perhaps, but I don’t think the original watch was too big or top heavy for me. I love the watch. Sometimes ignorance is bliss!
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And as far as the lugs, I’m pretty sure they thinned the lugs from the inside to make room for the wider bracelet, keeping the detentions the same. If you look at the pics, the lugs are thinner. |
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However i did always think the Bracelet could've been just that little bit wider right from when the DSSD first came out. The same went for the PM Skydweller on the Bracelet. I had to warm to the model over a long period of time and turn a blind eye to it. The turning point came for me when they moved away from the grab bag of font styles on the MK I to a more open and homogenous font style/layout on the MK II. After getting the watch i was totally hooked. |
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Regarding the lug width. I'm not convinced they are thinner and we are probably looking at the same pics |
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After Baselwolrd seems Deepseas are going up
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I can't imagine people in the future trying to track dow the rare "Skipped Leg Day" DSSD |
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The difference with the DSSDs isn't as huge and if we're being honest, outside of the DSSD1 being "first", I think that the DSSD2 is more desirable. The 3235 movement gives you 70hr of power reserve and the slightly redesigned case and wider bracelet address a common complaint with the DSSD1. If both the DSSD1 and DSSD2 were at your local AD with no discount (MSRP only), I'd hazard to guess that most people would pick the DSSD2. But who knows, collectors are a strange bunch...I mean they go completely nutter for Rolex watches with failing parts that are beaten to within an inch of its life... |
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As a DSSD owner and someone with 8.5-inch wrists, I do not notice porpoising on the wrist even though the watch is somewhat top-heavy and it certainly is a drawback for folks with smaller wrists. The original bracelet is too thin, not doubt about it and the new one looks much better on the 126660. I wonder if Rolex would ever consider making a bracelet for current DSSD owners that was not tapered as much?
However, IF...Rolex ever came out with a bracelet for purchase much like many other watch companies offer, that was less tapered than the original and more similar to the current 126660, (yes I know the end lug size in the DSSD1 is 21mm and 22mm in the new version) making it appear more symmetrical, would you buy it? I'd consider it assuming cost was similar to what a replacement bracelet would fetch currently. Clearly the new 3235 movement is a nice upgrade too. The slight changes in the length of the hands do nothing for me. Are the changes enough for me to get rid of mine for the 126660? Nope - I've been through too much with watch on my wrist and therefore too much sentimental value. Ps. As for the non-flush end-links to the lugs on the original, which Rolex has corrected with the 126660, I find them rather charming - there is something about slight imperfections in things that can make them seem perfect (just MHO). |
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