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GarageBMW · 22 March 2018, 10:13 PM

I had a bb41 and ended up parting with it due to size. I am very tempted by this one with slimmer proportions, especially on the thickness.

Looking forward to see it at my ad.

Patton250 · 22 March 2018, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by exador

1. GMT SchmeMT. Everyone is doing one (even TAG) and let's be honest - we all want a 16710 with 70-hour movement and GlideLock clasp, right?

2. The Rolex Submariner has become a parody. No longer a tool watch but a piece of jewellery that non-WIS buy with their first bonus cheque. Just witness the "I scratched my Sub!!!", "My best friend dropped my Sub!!!" posts on this very forum.

3. The Tudor Fifty-Eight is the Submariner we've all been waiting for. Classic proportions, just the right amount of fautina and a price that means it'll take the knocks without the owner having a nervous breakdown.
Of course Bill Yao did it first, but being late to the party is better than not turning up at all.

4. With this watch, Tudor announced that the era of Wrist Clocks is officially over.

I used to own a Tudor Blue Snowflake. Perfect go-to watch but as the prices on them went stupid, I was too scared to wear it. And take it near water? No way.

The Fifty-Eight will become my new Snowflake and I was the first to call my AD and place an order this morning. I suggest you do the same.

I’ve got news for you you. The sub ceased being a “tool watch” a very long time ago. Even in its inception there were more affordable options for less affluent divers. In other words the sub as well as all Rolex have always been jewelry. And of course non wis buy it. It’s the most recognizable watch in the world. A very nice one at that. You seem to be annoyed that anybody, other than a diver who has no problem smashing it up against a coral reef, would be interested in purchasing one.

Indy11 · 22 March 2018, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Etschell

its nice but my sub still smashes it.

Very much agree. Great watch great value, but no Sub

Indy11 · 22 March 2018, 10:38 PM

I do agree that Tudor did a great job with what they brought to Basel!

Easy E · 22 March 2018, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wytrader

My only issue with Tudor is that it seems like it has gotten a lot of inspiration from a certain Rolex watch without improving on it. Quality for $ its probably better value but it feels like going for second best.

It probably is best bang for $, pick your model. But for sure, 100% it is specifically placed as second best for a clear reason. I am personally ok with that. I am a big fan of the brand, but it always going to be 2nd to the crown.

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Speed · 22 March 2018, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wytrader

My only issue with Tudor is that it seems like it has gotten a lot of inspiration from a certain Rolex watch without improving on it. Quality for $ its probably better value but it feels like going for second best.

Well said.

Most all Tudors - with the exception of the original snowflake sub and maybe the big block chrono - leave me cold.

Maiden · 22 March 2018, 11:11 PM

Not a fan but we all have different tastes. Glad you found something you love.

904VT · 22 March 2018, 11:15 PM

I like the new 58, but the Sub being a parody is a joke in itself.

Easy E · 22 March 2018, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by exador

4. With this watch, Tudor announced that the era of Wrist Clocks is officially over.

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I agree the new 58 is a great piece, they will sell a ton of them. I can see how the 41 is too big for some, especially with the in house movement (It's fairly thick). However, I think this model is filling a void, not ending a trend. I will point to the SD43 as my reference.

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AK797 · 22 March 2018, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by elcompa

Love it: "Tudor announced that the era of Wrist Clocks is officially over".

If the new GMT and BB41 were not 14mm thick I'd believe them.

TheDude · 22 March 2018, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by exador

1. GMT SchmeMT. Everyone is doing one (even TAG) and let's be honest - we all want a 16710 with 70-hour movement and GlideLock clasp, right?

2. The Rolex Submariner has become a parody. No longer a tool watch but a piece of jewellery that non-WIS buy with their first bonus cheque. Just witness the "I scratched my Sub!!!", "My best friend dropped my Sub!!!" posts on this very forum.

3. The Tudor Fifty-Eight is the Submariner we've all been waiting for. Classic proportions, just the right amount of fautina and a price that means it'll take the knocks without the owner having a nervous breakdown.
Of course Bill Yao did it first, but being late to the party is better than not turning up at all.

4. With this watch, Tudor announced that the era of Wrist Clocks is officially over.

I used to own a Tudor Blue Snowflake. Perfect go-to watch but as the prices on them went stupid, I was too scared to wear it. And take it near water? No way.

The Fifty-Eight will become my new Snowflake and I was the first to call my AD and place an order this morning. I suggest you do the same.

I have all Bill’s stuff, and yes he “revived” it all first, including the Key West GMT.

Tudor needs to get it through their thick skulls that they can’t keep slapping snowflake hands on everything. I’d have purchased at least three models by now if they had the proper Mercedes handsets.

Tudor, just stop.

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watchwatcher · 22 March 2018, 11:25 PM

Love the brown strap...although I'm going to have to see it in the flesh to make any decisions.

ejj · 22 March 2018, 11:32 PM

This is a fair option for people that want a "vintage style" sub without braving the vintage market.
1. No fakes
2. Fixed MSRP that is relatively affordable
3. Updated movement and strap/bracelet/clasp. 70 Hr reserve, no worry of water.
4. Similar size to old subs.

The current Sub is an amazing watch, but this doesn't really steal buyers from that market. If anything, they buy this as well.

I'd hate to be in the $2k-$4k (NEW) market against Tudor right now.

houls61 · 22 March 2018, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Etschell

its nice but my sub still smashes it.

Yup.

I also had a Tudor BBN with the rose that everyone now swoons over and I’d still take this over any Tudor Black Bay.

Patton250 · 23 March 2018, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by houls61

Yup.

I also had a Tudor BBN with the rose that everyone now swoons over and I’d still take this over any Tudor Black Bay.

Yup. All day long and twice on Sunday. Great picture. I think I’ll put mine back into rotation this week.

Sub King · 23 March 2018, 12:06 AM

Well said. This new Fifty Eight is a game changer!

Krash · 23 March 2018, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by houls61

yeah, the Tudor is not even in the same category, but it's a good beater watch for days when you don't want to wear your sub. That's the appeal to me.

houls61 · 23 March 2018, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Krash

yeah, the Tudor is not even in the same category, but it's a good beater watch for days when you don't want to wear your sub. That's the appeal to me.

Agreed. I don’t dislike the Tudor at all and am actually going to take a hard look at the GMT but nothing they currently offer would replace my Submariner.

encarter13 · 23 March 2018, 12:32 AM

On the Tudor side of things, I prefer the new Black Bay S&G.

Hands90 · 23 March 2018, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Exploradori

Perfect size! Great post OP!

Do you think the Pepsi GMT will come in this size any day?

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Imagine. I would pull my Rolex fund and just go for a Tudor GMT.

dr35mm · 23 March 2018, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exador

2. The Rolex Submariner has become a parody. No longer a tool watch but a piece of jewellery that non-WIS buy with their first bonus cheque. Just witness the "I scratched my Sub!!!", "My best friend dropped my Sub!!!" posts on this very forum.

I agree with almost everything you said except the submariner point. IMHO, recently the GMT and DJs have become more common between "Non-WIS". Plus to be honest, I don't really care what others wear, the Submariner is that special watch that ALWAYS delivers.

BB58 is amazing!

I think I would pair this with my Sub, but never leave my Sub behind

Armyguy03 · 23 March 2018, 01:34 AM

Its a lovely watch and def has my attention and strong consideration, albeit, on a strap. It's at a great price point, has a lovely history, and is a bit smaller than the other BB's which suits my 6.5" wrist and tastes. Way to go Tudor!

GradyPhilpott · 23 March 2018, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Indy11

I do agree that Tudor did a great job with what they brought to Basel!

Overwound · 23 March 2018, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejj

This is a fair option for people that want a "vintage style" sub without braving the vintage market.
1. No fakes
2. Fixed MSRP that is relatively affordable
3. Updated movement and strap/bracelet/clasp. 70 Hr reserve, no worry of water.
4. Similar size to old subs.

The current Sub is an amazing watch, but this doesn't really steal buyers from that market. If anything, they buy this as well.

I'd hate to be in the $2k-$4k (NEW) market against Tudor right now.

Well said!

vman · 23 March 2018, 02:59 AM

After looking at this year releases, I too have to reluctantly admit that Tudor and Omega provided exceptionally strong offerings compared to many brands, including Rolex. It is almost like Omega and Tudor actually want people to buy and enjoy watches.

Granted, there are some nice tourbillons and other well-executed exceptional eye candy for the wallets that can handle six figure time pieces, but overall the mid-market was a wash from my perspective, at least when it comes to the usual suspects.

Does not look like Rolex is a strong contender for my dollars in the upcoming years. At least not when it comes to the new models.

Derkuhlmann · 23 March 2018, 03:03 AM

Wow it’s a copy of an old watch! Even with fake patina! Let me put in my order...

DramaTurtle · 23 March 2018, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elcompa

Love it: "Tudor announced that the era of Wrist Clocks is officially over".

If this was a company statement, that is an awesome company statement.

lucevan le stelle · 23 March 2018, 03:27 AM

Anyone know how chunky the case is? Will it fit under the shirt sleeve better than the 41mm BB I guess is the question. Was all set on buying one until that thought popped up.

TheDude · 23 March 2018, 03:54 AM

I’ll stick with my Key West over the new GMT BB as well.

Pics in honor of the OP mentioning Yao...

Details matter. Fonts, date wheels, proportions, colors, finishes...

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opawlows · 23 March 2018, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lucevan le stelle

Anyone know how chunky the case is? Will it fit under the shirt sleeve better than the 41mm BB I guess is the question. Was all set on buying one until that thought popped up.

Based on what Hodinkee reported the 58 is 11.9mm thick. Should fit better under the sleeves.

22 March 2018, 11:11 PM	#37
Maiden "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 3,650	Not a fan but we all have different tastes. Glad you found something you love. __________________ Rolex 116613LN Rolex 16610LN Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 41mm Omega Geneve Tag Heuer Aquaracer WAY2112 Orient Ray 2

23 March 2018, 12:32 AM	#49
encarter13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Real Name: Nick Location: Georgia Posts: 2,613	On the Tudor side of things, I prefer the new Black Bay S&G. __________________ Instagram - watches_wine

23 March 2018, 01:34 AM	#52
Armyguy03 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: DM[V] Watch: 16710 \| 16600 Posts: 3,546	Its a lovely watch and def has my attention and strong consideration, albeit, on a strap. It's at a great price point, has a lovely history, and is a bit smaller than the other BB's which suits my 6.5" wrist and tastes. Way to go Tudor! __________________ Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

23 March 2018, 02:59 AM	#55
vman "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Capt Swerve Location: North Carolina Watch: less TV Posts: 2,224	After looking at this year releases, I too have to reluctantly admit that Tudor and Omega provided exceptionally strong offerings compared to many brands, including Rolex. It is almost like Omega and Tudor actually want people to buy and enjoy watches. Granted, there are some nice tourbillons and other well-executed exceptional eye candy for the wallets that can handle six figure time pieces, but overall the mid-market was a wash from my perspective, at least when it comes to the usual suspects. Does not look like Rolex is a strong contender for my dollars in the upcoming years. At least not when it comes to the new models. __________________ Collector and buyer of Lange, VC, Patek \| 2 FA Enabled

23 March 2018, 03:54 AM	#59
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,483	Why the Fifty-Eight is the star of Baselworld... I’ll stick with my Key West over the new GMT BB as well. Pics in honor of the OP mentioning Yao... Details matter. Fonts, date wheels, proportions, colors, finishes... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 March 2018, 10:13 PM	#31
GarageBMW "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Third Degree Location: Glenfinnan Watch: the step Posts: 1,874	I had a bb41 and ended up parting with it due to size. I am very tempted by this one with slimmer proportions, especially on the thickness. Looking forward to see it at my ad.

22 March 2018, 10:38 PM	#34
Indy11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Indianapolis Watch: 114060 Posts: 306	I do agree that Tudor did a great job with what they brought to Basel!

22 March 2018, 11:15 PM	#38
904VT "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Watch: All Rolex Posts: 6,976	I like the new 58, but the Sub being a parody is a joke in itself.

22 March 2018, 11:25 PM	#42
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,479	Love the brown strap...although I'm going to have to see it in the flesh to make any decisions.

22 March 2018, 11:32 PM	#43
ejj "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Mpls Watch: 16570 Posts: 110	This is a fair option for people that want a "vintage style" sub without braving the vintage market. 1. No fakes 2. Fixed MSRP that is relatively affordable 3. Updated movement and strap/bracelet/clasp. 70 Hr reserve, no worry of water. 4. Similar size to old subs. The current Sub is an amazing watch, but this doesn't really steal buyers from that market. If anything, they buy this as well. I'd hate to be in the $2k-$4k (NEW) market against Tudor right now.

23 March 2018, 12:06 AM	#46
Sub King "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Canada Watch: 124060 Posts: 401	Well said. This new Fifty Eight is a game changer!

23 March 2018, 03:03 AM	#56
Derkuhlmann "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Southeast US Posts: 95	Wow it’s a copy of an old watch! Even with fake patina! Let me put in my order...

23 March 2018, 03:27 AM	#58
lucevan le stelle "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: garden state Posts: 522	Anyone know how chunky the case is? Will it fit under the shirt sleeve better than the 41mm BB I guess is the question. Was all set on buying one until that thought popped up.

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