Why does Rolex not put the new GMT movement in all the new GMT models?

[mangoseed]

What on earth are they thinking? Both the new blue dial WG model and green dial YG model are listed as having the older 3186 movement.

[cht]

they don't want to.

my AD confirmed this

[THC]

Does boggle the mind...

[dmash]

because....Rolex

[AK797]

They need time, we already have chronic undersupply so I don't want Rolex to pull away resources and rush this and have even lower supply as the result, they will have planned the schedule.

[PalmBeacher83]

I spoke to my AD today and he said all the new GMTs will have new movement. That doesn't seem to comport with what I heard elsewhere.

[VicLeChic]

For the same reason not all three handers have been upgraded with the 3235. Rolex make adjustments in small increments, like their Glidelock clasp.

[wulin]

Nobody will buy the new WG Blue Blro with 3186 movement. It just doesnt make sense.

[thomaswentworth]

I think they have a supply of current GMTs and the movements and dials for those, so they want to use what they have already created rather than trashing it. After that supply is used up and ADs cupboards are bare with no ability to get any more with 3185/6, then there will be another BaselWorld realease... BLNR, etc. with 3286 movements. Remember, for the most part, Joe average consumer has no idea that a 32xx movement even exists. If he sees a GMT and likes it, he probably doesn't care.

By keeping the GMTs and Subs with 31xx movements, they also don't make the 31xx series watches "so last year." In my opinion, another very smart move by Rolex.

Is my nose starting to look brown?

[Chewbacca]

who knows?

but why is the new movement such a big deal? its an evolutionary improvement, not a revolutionary need. rolex doesn't even have transparent casebacks and the walk-in full price buyer won't break a deal because of it not having the best power res or latest coronet.

if they lose one sale because of it, i'd be quite surprised.

(since everyones missing eta movements in tudors now)

[116710er]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

but why is the new movement such a big deal? its an evolutionary improvement, not a revolutionary need.

70 hour power reserve is a pretty big improvement...better accuracy too. I wouldn't want to spend $$$$ on a PM model with the older movement especially when they released (at the same time) a SS unit that has the better movement.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by wulin

Nobody will buy the new WG Blue Blro with 3186 movement. It just doesnt make sense.

Agreed, it doesn't make sense to pay a premium for a new watch that has an old movement when the SS version released the same time has the new movement. What was Rolex thinking outside of an outlet to move the old movements

There is no reason to buy the blue BLRO unless you want to out of pure speculation that it will be a relatively rare reference or just like the blue dial that much.

[Qwerty01]

I have the new rolex 2018/19 catalogue and the rolex 116710 both black and BLNR are not shown on the price list. Maybe a hint they will put the new movement in them and change the model number to 126710 aswell

[jaisonline]

they might. many previous models had upcoming model movements for a little bit. Some cars do the same w/ radio tech and engines a couple of years before the new models are released.

e.g. gmt 17610 w/ 3186 spanned 2 serial numbers but still extremely hard to find.

http://luxurytyme.com/en/rolex-relat...ii-16710-3186/

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by 116710er

70 hour power reserve is a pretty big improvement...better accuracy too.

It is a big improvement, technologically, but is it really that much of an improvement for the man on the street?

I don't have a problem with my 40 hour power reserve watches running down, except when they are out of rotation.

I have a Tudor North Flag with a 70 hour power reserve and, personally, the only reason that I'm aware of it at all is because it has a power reserve indicator.

Those who have a preference for either PM or SS, don't really consider PR a determining factor--price, maybe; power reserve, no.

[abozz]

Originally Posted by 904VT

Agreed, it doesn't make sense to pay a premium for a new watch that has an old movement when the SS version released the same time has the new movement. What was Rolex thinking outside of an outlet to move the old movements

There is no reason to buy the blue BLRO unless you want to out of pure speculation that it will be a relatively rare reference or just like the blue dial that much.

I have a friend who has two rolexes and does not know what an automatic watch is!

[jstan9]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

It is a big improvement, technologically, but is it really that much of an improvement for the man on the street?



I don't have a problem with my 40 hour power reserve watches running down, except when they are out of rotation.



I have a Tudor North Flag with a 70 hour power reserve and, personally, the only reason that I'm aware of it at all is because it has a power reserve indicator.



Those who have a preference for either PM or SS, don't really consider PR a determining factor--price, maybe; power reserve, no.

I think you are 100% correct.


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[lhawli]

I suspect the LN will get the upgrade with the red hand and the BLNR will be discontinued. Of course that's just what i think.

Either way, i really don't care much about PR! My watches either sit in a box in a safe or on a winder when in rotation.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by abozz

I have a friend who has two rolexes and does not know what an automatic watch is!

May make for an awkward conversation come service time

[904VT]

Originally Posted by Qwerty01

I have the new rolex 2018/19 catalogue and the rolex 116710 both black and BLNR are not shown on the price list. Maybe a hint they will put the new movement in them and change the model number to 126710 aswell

Nice catch

Sounds like Rolex will sell the remaining BLNR and LN inventory with 3186 and then release new versions with 3286, perhaps even mid-year. Just as they did the DateJust the other year

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by wulin

Nobody will buy the new WG Blue Blro with 3186 movement. It just doesnt make sense.

Nobody bought the previous one either. So, no real change there.

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[gooter]

because they have half-a-million of them sitting in Rubbermaid bins and need to get rid of them

[joli160]

Originally Posted by wulin

Nobody will buy the new WG Blue Blro with 3186 movement. It just doesnt make sense.

Movements are irrelevant with Rolex. It's not a highly decorated Lange or Patek.
Outside appearance is what matters. In all the classics the calibre is not affecting desirability, dial and case is what it is about

[904VT]

Originally Posted by gooter

because they have half-a-million of them sitting in Rubbermaid bins and need to get rid of them

Kind of makes it surprising the 3285 didn't go into the Explorer 2 first, and then Rolex leave the GMT Master for the remaining 3186s. Then you would've had 2 models sell like hotcakes. Maybe Rolex wants to withhold inventory until they get a better currency translation.

[lhawli]

Originally Posted by gooter

because they have half-a-million of them sitting in Rubbermaid bins and need to get rid of them

I said the same thing about the SS Pepsi bezel! They had to use up the stock they had from he slow WG BLRO turns.

[DoctorA]

I expect because they will be discontinuing the BLNR! So no point in updating the movement this year to discontinue it next year and if have only singled it out and updated the LN it would’ve been a give away! That’s imho
Look at the DSSD they updated the movement on it because they’re continuing it! They didn’t update any of the submariner movement line. So they only reason they singled out the BLNR and LN is because BLNR is getting discontinued soon..... I think!!

[abozz]

Originally Posted by 904VT

May make for an awkward conversation come service time

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[SearChart]

You lot worry too much about a damn movement.

[Wcdhtwn]

I wondered the same thing. I get the idea that they have a backlog of current GMT movements... But how does that square with the lack of watches, particularly the BLNR? Maybe they don't have enough of the 3285?

[teo]

Does the new movement make it easy to find parts during future servicing? Old 3186 movement u can service it at independent.