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Old 8 November 2012, 02:24 AM   #1
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Old 8 November 2012, 02:28 AM   #2
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Just don't expect them to actually read this before they post.

We need to invent a 3D sticky that jumps out and slaps the face.

Perhaps then it would be heeded. Probably not, but perhaps.
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Just don't expect them to actually read this before they post.

We need to invent a 3D sticky that jumps out and slaps the face.

Perhaps then it would be heeded. Probably not, but perhaps.
If it did this it may work, Paul

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Perhaps a little creative rewiring on TRF, might work.....

.....like this! Post an offending thread, and............

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.....like this! Post an offending thread, and............


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Just don't expect them to actually read this before they post.

We need to invent a 3D sticky that jumps out and slaps the face.

Perhaps then it would be heeded. Probably not, but perhaps.
This may works.
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Just don't expect them to actually read this before they post.

We need to invent a 3D sticky that jumps out and slaps the face.

Perhaps then it would be heeded. Probably not, but perhaps.
This!!!! It made me laugh out loud. This thread is a great addition.
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I understand the reason, but I have mixed feelings.

Most people, including many Rolex owners, know very little about watches. I have friends who got a Rolex for the prestige of it (nothing wrong with that) rather than because of the automatic movement or orther horological reasons. They do not remove any of the extra links, and let the watch flop around like a bracelet. When I compliment them on their fine timepiece, I inevitably get, "Oh, this? It keeps terrible time." It turns out that none have ever wound their watches.

When some of our relatives have passed on, we have found various antique watches (from the 1930s-1940s) in boxes drawers, etc. It would be helpful to know if they are valuable for purposes of dividing them up, deciding whether to keep or sell, or even to fix and wear. Sometimes it is not worth to spend hundreds of dollars to fix a watch that is worth far less. For example, we got an antique Baume & Mercier chronograph (model 902). The crystal is broken and it has no strap. We took it to a watchmaker, and because of the complications, it is probably more expensive to fix than what it is worth. It has no sentimental value, so in the drawer it sits. Alternatively, if one is a very rare timepiece, that would be helpful to know.

Also, isn't TRF a reputable place to do research? Is eBay the only alternative?

I understand some people may be abusive, but if someone does post a photo bout the found watch, what is inherently problematic about spending 30 seconds to say their watch was a common or uncommon, potentially valuable, worth getting checked out by a dealer, etc.

Plus, there is always the fun "Antique Roadshow" aspect to finding a rare watch.
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I agree 100% - anyone can do research if they aren't too lazy!!

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I understand the reason, but I have mixed feelings.

Most people, including many Rolex owners, know very little about watches. I have friends who got a Rolex for the prestige of it (nothing wrong with that) rather than because of the automatic movement or orther horological reasons. They do not remove any of the extra links, and let the watch flop around like a bracelet. When I compliment them on their fine timepiece, I inevitably get, "Oh, this? It keeps terrible time." It turns out that none have ever wound their watches.

When some of our relatives have passed on, we have found various antique watches (from the 1930s-1940s) in boxes drawers, etc. It would be helpful to know if they are valuable for purposes of dividing them up, deciding whether to keep or sell, or even to fix and wear. Sometimes it is not worth to spend hundreds of dollars to fix a watch that is worth far less. For example, we got an antique Baume & Mercier chronograph (model 902). The crystal is broken and it has no strap. We took it to a watchmaker, and because of the complications, it is probably more expensive to fix than what it is worth. It has no sentimental value, so in the drawer it sits. Alternatively, if one is a very rare timepiece, that would be helpful to know.

Also, isn't TRF a reputable place to do research? Is eBay the only alternative?

I understand some people may be abusive, but if someone does post a photo bout the found watch, what is inherently problematic about spending 30 seconds to say their watch was a common or uncommon, potentially valuable, worth getting checked out by a dealer, etc.

Plus, there is always the fun "Antique Roadshow" aspect to finding a rare watch.
I think TRF can be an excellent place to learn about any vintage watches in our families, and by posting pictures and asking people for their comments, and opinions as to authenticity, condition, where to go for restorations services, what to "restore" and what NOT to restore, and in general, by sharing what you have (picture-wise) with the rest of us, we can and love to help out with our own personal input. That being said, anyone really interested can and should spend time doing their own research and searches, here and elsewhere, and not expect us to do your work for you.

Coming here merely to "Value" a watch is NOT what TRF is all about, we are a community of likeminded enthusiasts, who like to learn and share, with other likeminded individuals.....If you want to know what something is worth, you can very easily have your watch appraised locally, of course, paying the fair market value of such a service.

Just my humble opinion....
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Icon20 new to form - Rolex serial numbers and markings

I must start by saying I am new to this forum and was not sure how to post this inquiry - this is likely the wrong thread but did not find one releated to the new Rolex serial numbers and ring markings

my primary questions are 1) when did the new random serial numbers start being used?
2) does this random SN correspond to the entry on the certificates and warranty docs with the watch?
3) when did they start using the "Rolex" engraving on the dial ring and is that engraved on all watches mens and womens oyster styles ?

thank you for your answers and help
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I understand the reason, but I have mixed feelings.

Most people, including many Rolex owners, know very little about watches. I have friends who got a Rolex for the prestige of it (nothing wrong with that) rather than because of the automatic movement or orther horological reasons. They do not remove any of the extra links, and let the watch flop around like a bracelet. When I compliment them on their fine timepiece, I inevitably get, "Oh, this? It keeps terrible time." It turns out that none have ever wound their watches.

When some of our relatives have passed on, we have found various antique watches (from the 1930s-1940s) in boxes drawers, etc. It would be helpful to know if they are valuable for purposes of dividing them up, deciding whether to keep or sell, or even to fix and wear. Sometimes it is not worth to spend hundreds of dollars to fix a watch that is worth far less. For example, we got an antique Baume & Mercier chronograph (model 902). The crystal is broken and it has no strap. We took it to a watchmaker, and because of the complications, it is probably more expensive to fix than what it is worth. It has no sentimental value, so in the drawer it sits. Alternatively, if one is a very rare timepiece, that would be helpful to know.

Also, isn't TRF a reputable place to do research? Is eBay the only alternative?

I understand some people may be abusive, but if someone does post a photo bout the found watch, what is inherently problematic about spending 30 seconds to say their watch was a common or uncommon, potentially valuable, worth getting checked out by a dealer, etc.

Plus, there is always the fun "Antique Roadshow" aspect to finding a rare watch.
I think the main reason for this thread to get it accross to people that this site is not here to keep you from having to do your own research. I know I love looking at some of the vintage time pieces "found" and seeing what the comments and values are said during the thread. It helps me learn as well as the person who owns the watch.
TRF is a great site to get help and to do research with but it is not an appraisal site or a quick fix from the owner doing his own do-diligence.
I think people will always be willing to give there opinions here and to offer help, (that is what makes this place great) but the site would become quite boring if every thread is nothing but "Is this real?", "What is this worth?", "Look what I found in my grandmas purse buried under the house and can you help identify it?"
Hope this helps. I love this place and one of the main things the made me become a member here is the excellent members and facilitators that make this forum great.
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Why try to regulate what people talk about? Aren't we here to have fun and be charitable to one another? Albeit-- it is pretty simple to find a Rolex price on the Information Superhighway...
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