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Old 10 November 2016, 08:23 AM   #61
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Here she is in happier times.

I have a high resolution scan of the plans below, they'll be sufficient. Thankfully the ship was well-photographed so I have a lot to go on.






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Old 10 November 2016, 11:56 AM   #62
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Joe, your work is absolutely phenomenal! How long would you say it takes you to build a ship, 50 hours of labor?

Not to hi jack your thread, but I rec'd an email about the Page kit I talked to you about... It's an expert level resin kit for Iron Shipwrights. That is not something a beginner could build, is it?
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Old 10 November 2016, 12:11 PM   #63
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Hey Mike,

Something like Montagu is going to take a couple hundred hours or more. I've already marked quite a bit of the hull for scratch building. Certain aspects like the splinter shields are too thick, so they have to go.

IS makes a beautiful kit but that is nowhere near something a beginner could tackle. Removing the resin overpour alone requires a delicate touch and one slip and your very expensive model is toast.
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Old 12 November 2016, 07:36 AM   #64
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Sternwalk lower portion mostly finished, and new bridge and charthouse scratchbuilt













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Old 19 November 2016, 07:11 AM   #65
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Some more work.

The torpedo net shelves, booms, and the net itself, all done. The Pullys for the torpedo net boom rigging are what's on the agenda next. I want to get the hull sides finished up.

Also the masts are done, rigging will come after they're painted,.















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Old 19 November 2016, 02:49 PM   #66
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I appreciate this, however do not have the patience nor skill to pull this off


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Old 19 November 2016, 03:57 PM   #67
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I appreciate this, however do not have the patience nor skill to pull this off


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Thanks, it's just years of practice
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Old 20 November 2016, 01:34 AM   #68
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This is a great thread, it appears you scratch build the entire model, casting, molds etc, nothing is a kit or partial kit correct? How do you keep everything in the scale you want?

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Old 20 November 2016, 02:05 AM   #69
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The hull is a casting from a Russian company called Combrig. I've scratch built hulls before, just did one recently, but if one is commercially available I'll pay the extra money for one. Resin casting is a messy business and if someone else wants to do the cleanup, I'll happily take it.

I rarely start any project without a set of scale plans, so I compare the hull to the plans, remove anything that's wrong, mark where other details will go, and scratch build the rest of the superstructure. I use photoetched details for boat chocks, bollards etc, but the masts, funnels, bridge house, all that are scratch built from styrene, brass, and stainless steel. I never use wood for structures. The decks are planked with wood, sometimes. Sometimes I paint and weather the decks, depends on the effect I want. USS Idaho is painted, Derfflinger is planked with real wood. HMS Montagu is going to be painted. I can be more dynamic with the painted decks.

In order to keep everything to scale, each structure is built to, and compared to the scale plans. The Duncan class battleships aren't very well documented but a fantastic set of drawings exist and I simply scale them to 1/700, make a bunch of copies, and have at it.
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Incredible artistry! You make it sound simple enough, but I am sure it has taken many years to perfect your art.

You have Fabulous skills and are a true artist.


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Old 20 November 2016, 05:35 AM   #71
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Old 20 November 2016, 06:40 AM   #72
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Amazing as usual Joe, boggles my mind!
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Old 25 November 2016, 03:14 PM   #73
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A lot has been done, but mostly on the bridge and stern docking bridge sub assemblies. I was able to finish the davits and railing on the hull, as well as the stern walk deck and roof awning. The pulley assemblies for the torpedo net booms rounded out the hull.

I have some gorgeous boat booms under construction and once those are done, the hull will be finished.

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I can't paint until I receive my order of tungsten monofilament from Japan. It's what I use for rigging and small stanchions. The stern walk and boat booms have to be rigged before priming and painting so I'm pretty much at a stand still until they come in.

In the mean time, I've chosen my next subject. Something to start after the holidays. HMS Orion, commissioned in 1912. She was a 25,000 ton Battleship, the first super-Dreadnought, with 10 13.5in guns. She was Leveson's flagship at the Battle of Jutland.






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You'll notice her foremast is place BEHIND her forward funnel, this was a really bizarre move because it meant the fire control top was pretty much useless with all that hot exhaust and smoke from her forward funnel. The British did this on a bunch of Dreadnoughts and it never made any sense to anyone. The only theory is that they needed a place to attatch the boat handling cranes so they moved the mast back.
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Old 25 November 2016, 11:23 PM   #74
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Old 26 November 2016, 02:33 AM   #75
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So much left to do, this is the first time I've seen the whole ship mocked up. Everything is now disassembled and put away. The bridge decks need some awning support brackets and stantions, then they're finished. The funnels need some brackets, the superstructure still needs bow and stern cranes, awning supports, and torpedo net booms rigging.

































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Old 26 November 2016, 11:33 PM   #76
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Old 27 November 2016, 12:17 AM   #77
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Thanks! As I've said before, anyone can do this. Just takes practice and will power to see it through.
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Old 27 November 2016, 02:34 AM   #78
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I've said it before, but absolutely amazing work!
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Old 27 November 2016, 03:25 AM   #80
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Ladders added, major work on the stern bridge finished.

Now if my damnedable order of tungsten monofilament would come, I could finish the awning supports!





Not much left now. I'm at a stop until Monday at least. After that, maybe I'll have my materials in
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Amazing intricate detail! Really enjoy seeing the process. Thanks for sharing it with us!
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Thanks, they always look strange until the paint goes on. I have a hard time visualizing the final product until the base coat of grey over the black primer
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Old 27 November 2016, 01:44 PM   #83
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Incredible work, keep the updates coming! I would never have the patience nor the steady hands to do the finishing work.
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Monofilament arrived so we can now jump on the awning and torpedo net boom rigging. If all goes to plan, Tuesday I can start priming at least.
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Old 1 December 2016, 11:32 AM   #85
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Big update. I spent the better part of 2 days researching the correct color of post Victorian, Royal Navy Mediterranean Fleet paint schemes. Turns out Vallejo 991 is a cost match to WE02, the color used. Luckily I had a brand new bottle so I spent the day air brushing.

Ship's boats are finished, breakwaters, and rigging still left

































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Old 1 December 2016, 12:34 PM   #86
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Wow, I'm still amazed at the fact you're able to make those the way you do. Simply incredible!
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Rigging is tonight's project.

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Thankfully the British archives have a rigging plan which I've augmented with the actual photos of the ship in the Mediterranean Fleet
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Impressive! Doing so must totally clear your mind of any stress. A very rewarding hobby it seems like.
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