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Old 13 November 2020, 12:59 AM   #61
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I have a bag of shrooms in my house.

Scared to try them. Had some good times in the past, long ago. Some bad times too.

Not sure my mental state can handle anything like this.
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Old 13 November 2020, 01:01 AM   #62
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I always planned and prepared carefully before psychedelics. Also do a three day juice fast before to clean out body of toxins.
My most memorable experience was with ayahuasca in the Peruvian Amazon administered by local indigenous people. Excellent guides for an out of body journey.
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Old 13 November 2020, 02:23 AM   #63
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I have a bag of shrooms in my house.

Scared to try them. Had some good times in the past, long ago. Some bad times too.

Not sure my mental state can handle anything like this.
Seth - I am willing to come over and "monitor you" whilst you partake.

I figure once your out of it I can talk you into letting me test drive your cars....
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Old 13 November 2020, 03:17 AM   #64
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Seth - I am willing to come over and "monitor you" whilst you partake.

I figure once your out of it I can talk you into letting me test drive your cars....
Ha. You can do that anyways. Let’s do it!!!
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Old 13 November 2020, 03:19 AM   #65
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Anxiety is not a motivational tool I want to use for anything I can think of.
“Thinking about anxiety as a problem pushes us further away from its solution, whereas thinking about it as a tool allows us to use it as such.
Neurologically, anxiety is a powerful signal that helps regulate attention and motivation to look after the things you care about most in life.”

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Old 13 November 2020, 04:05 AM   #66
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Growing up in the PNW, shrooms grow wild all over the place. Took them regularly in my late teens and 20's Many great experiences with Psychedelics over the years. .
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Old 13 November 2020, 04:29 AM   #67
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Ha. You can do that anyways. Let’s do it!!!
Okay, see you in twenty minutes, maybe thirty. Depends on the traffic on Rt 17.

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Old 13 November 2020, 05:39 AM   #68
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“Thinking about anxiety as a problem pushes us further away from its solution, whereas thinking about it as a tool allows us to use it as such.
Neurologically, anxiety is a powerful signal that helps regulate attention and motivation to look after the things you care about most in life.”

“Seize the inherent motivation of anxiety.”

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Have you ever been in combat? Ever been diagnosed with PTSD? Ever have to deal with Panic attacks? Can you even imagine how it makes me feel, when I was on top of the world at one time in my life, I was a fricken NAVY FIGHTER PILOT for GOD’s sake, can you even comprehend how it much I hate myself, and how ashamed I feel when I am having an attack and am reduced to literally being curled up in the fetal position on the floor, sobbing? Can you? I seriously don’t think so. This always hits me on Veterans Day, I try to battle it but the only thing that gets me out of that state is taking a prescribed Xanax. I don’t want to, and the whole point of my posts was to ask anyone that has similar battles if they had success with a natural alternative. I have had some good suggestions, Ashguanda, Valerian Root, Kava, I will look forward to trying these the next time I feel anxious. But, until you have experienced what I, and other Vets have, do not tell us this is all in our minds and should be overcome with concentration, or that anxiety is a... what did you call it? “Motivational tool?” For some, well, for me, it is an extremely powerful-malicious force that I have to deal with in my life. Perhaps you can handle very difficult situations and anxiety inducing experiences without a prescribed medicine. If so, I envy and congratulate you, and will concede you are a stronger person then I am.
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Old 13 November 2020, 05:56 AM   #69
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Have you ever been in combat? Ever been diagnosed with PTSD? Ever have to deal with Panic attacks? Can you even imagine how it makes me feel, when I was on top of the world at one time in my life, I was a fricken NAVY FIGHTER PILOT for GOD’s sake, can you even comprehend how it much I hate myself, and how ashamed I feel when I am having an attack and am reduced to literally being curled up in the fetal position on the floor, sobbing? Can you? I seriously don’t think so. This always hits me on Veterans Day, I try to battle it but the only thing that gets me out of that state is taking a prescribed Xanax. I don’t want to, and the whole point of my posts was to ask anyone that has similar battles if they had success with a natural alternative. I have had some good suggestions, Ashguanda, Valerian Root, Kava, I will look forward to trying these the next time I feel anxious. But, until you have experienced what I, and other Vets have, do not tell us this is all in our minds and should be overcome with concentration, or that anxiety is a... what did you call it? “Motivational tool?” For some, well, for me, it is an extremely powerful-malicious force that I have to deal with in my life. Perhaps you can handle very difficult situations and anxiety inducing experiences without a prescribed medicine. If so, I envy and congratulate you, and will concede you are a stronger person then I am.
Well said.

I'm not sure how I escaped my Army time without PTSD, but it is by the grace of God and nothing due to me or my own mental strength.

One of my sons suffers from panic attacks. He tends to have the same self-loathing because of it. He is an extremely high achiever like you and cannot believe the control this condition has over him. He is ashamed, every time, and I don't believe anything I tell him makes him feel a whole lot better about it. It's not his fault, not in any way, and yet he still feels like an utter failure every time it happens.

Stay strong, brother. You served. That says all that needs to be said. This is just a thing. It's not who you are.
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Have you ever been in combat? Ever been diagnosed with PTSD? Ever have to deal with Panic attacks? Can you even imagine how it makes me feel, when I was on top of the world at one time in my life, I was a fricken NAVY FIGHTER PILOT for GOD’s sake, can you even comprehend how it much I hate myself, and how ashamed I feel when I am having an attack and am reduced to literally being curled up in the fetal position on the floor, sobbing? Can you? I seriously don’t think so. This always hits me on Veterans Day, I try to battle it but the only thing that gets me out of that state is taking a prescribed Xanax. I don’t want to, and the whole point of my posts was to ask anyone that has similar battles if they had success with a natural alternative. I have had some good suggestions, Ashguanda, Valerian Root, Kava, I will look forward to trying these the next time I feel anxious. But, until you have experienced what I, and other Vets have, do not tell us this is all in our minds and should be overcome with concentration, or that anxiety is a... what did you call it? “Motivational tool?” For some, well, for me, it is an extremely powerful-malicious force that I have to deal with in my life. Perhaps you can handle very difficult situations and anxiety inducing experiences without a prescribed medicine. If so, I envy and congratulate you, and will concede you are a stronger person then I am.
Tried all those remedies and more. You have no idea what I have had to cope with, I will not bore you with history. Not stronger than you, but perhaps more receptive to non medical treatments. I sincerely tried to give you advice based on my experiences. Take it or leave it, it’s your choice, but shooting the messenger serves no one. Lesson learned, no more bouts of empathy.
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While worthwhile for certain medical uses - i never understood their use for recreational purposes. Not for me.
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Old 13 November 2020, 08:23 AM   #73
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That was empathy?
Yes, it was an honest attempt to get you to consider trying things that hopefully would get you the results as I have gotten, from those methods. I obviously have nothing to offer you. However trying to help you has been very cathartic for me. So thanks for that. I’m done.
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Yes, it was an honest attempt to get you to consider trying things that hopefully would get you the results as I have gotten, from those methods. I obviously have nothing to offer you. However trying to help you has been very cathartic for me. So thanks for that. I’m done.
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Have you ever been in combat? Ever been diagnosed with PTSD? Ever have to deal with Panic attacks? Can you even imagine how it makes me feel, when I was on top of the world at one time in my life, I was a fricken NAVY FIGHTER PILOT for GOD’s sake, can you even comprehend how it much I hate myself, and how ashamed I feel when I am having an attack and am reduced to literally being curled up in the fetal position on the floor, sobbing? Can you? I seriously don’t think so. This always hits me on Veterans Day, I try to battle it but the only thing that gets me out of that state is taking a prescribed Xanax. I don’t want to, and the whole point of my posts was to ask anyone that has similar battles if they had success with a natural alternative. I have had some good suggestions, Ashguanda, Valerian Root, Kava, I will look forward to trying these the next time I feel anxious. But, until you have experienced what I, and other Vets have, do not tell us this is all in our minds and should be overcome with concentration, or that anxiety is a... what did you call it? “Motivational tool?” For some, well, for me, it is an extremely powerful-malicious force that I have to deal with in my life. Perhaps you can handle very difficult situations and anxiety inducing experiences without a prescribed medicine. If so, I envy and congratulate you, and will concede you are a stronger person then I am.

Tying the OP’s topic to your post, this might be an interesting read:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...vercome-trauma

“Earlier this year a team at the Medical University of South Carolina reported on clinical trials which found that PTSD sufferers who used magic mushrooms as part of their therapy showed greater levels of improvement compared with patients who did not receive the drug.”


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For those looking for alternatives. Seen it work wonders for others I know. Sometimes after only a few experiences. Ketamine: A Promising Novel Therapy for Anxiety and PTSD

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I disagree. See my previous posts. Ketamine dosed with fentanyl was terrible. I would not give it to or recommend it for my dog, horse, nosy neighbor, terrorists, HOA officials and pretty much anyone for that matter.


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I disagree. See my previous posts. Ketamine dosed with fentanyl was terrible. I would not give it to or recommend it for my dog, horse, nosy neighbor, terrorists, HOA officials and pretty much anyone for that matter.


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Don’t think I mentioned dosing with fentanyl. However I have seen Ketamine work wonders on others after 24 hours from onset. But that’s my experience. Fentanyl is a rabbit hole best avoided if possible.
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Don’t think I mentioned dosing with fentanyl. However I have seen it work wonders on others.

From my understanding the ketamine is what gave me the bad experience. I was under the impression I went into a K-hole. Please note below the possible side effects of ongoing psychosis. Psychosis is not a desired effect when one is dealing with PTSD. I will note that this article also mentions the use of Ketamine for depression that’s the last screenshot.



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The book, How to change your mind, by Michael Pollan is a very interesting book on Psychedelics.




Yeah I wouldn't want to be near strangers when tripping on a high dose.

That podcast definitely helps to break the stigma a bit. I've talked openly about magic mushrooms with colleagues, some also have had psychedelic experiences.
I mean, it grows in nature, doesn't kill you, makes you more empathetic and self reflect.
I never got lucky with psychedelic stuff the few times I tried. I think it had to do with the moment I was living that was not so good back then. However, I've always liked recreational drugs. Shame I had to quit most of them but I want to stay married.
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...vercome-trauma

“Earlier this year a team at the Medical University of South Carolina reported on clinical trials which found that PTSD sufferers who used magic mushrooms as part of their therapy showed greater levels of improvement compared with patients who did not receive the drug.”


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is it true you can still get Quaaludes in South Africa?
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“Thinking about anxiety as a problem pushes us further away from its solution, whereas thinking about it as a tool allows us to use it as such.
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That's a very interesting perspective!
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Haha that gif was me back when I was 13 in Spain. Went to beach and a group of 20 something topless women walked past me.
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What a great day that was
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Interesting for sure. Another member mentioned this in a PM, and said small doses was very helpful. Thanks!
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I had to google both but it looks like a wormhole.

Who knows what each needs and self medication will not give an answer with all the variables.
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