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Locust · 13 July 2018, 02:08 AM

Stole this off Instagram but think it looks pretty sweet. Erika’s original 20mm with the polar 42mm

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jono2200 · 13 July 2018, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Locust

Stole this off Instagram but think it looks pretty sweet. Erika’s original 20mm with the polar 42mm

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Love the look of that with the NATO strap. Very good match

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Atlantic · 13 July 2018, 07:48 PM

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It's a lovely watch and I remember trying one on in my AD and I just couldn't help think it looked too big on my wrist, (I also have a 45.5 planet ocean as well but that seems to wear smaller. In the end I decided it wasn't for me.. even seeing some of the pictures posted the watch its self looks fantastic but on some of the wrists again it looks big.. all just my opinion of course :)

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Try the 16570.

Allinthegame · 15 July 2018, 11:53 AM

Thanks for the input guys. Going to pull the trigger and buy a decent condition 16570 this month for £3500 or slightly under if I can. Appreciate the feedback! P.S anything I should look out for ? Lugholes or no lugholes? Serials I should look out for/ avoid? Thanks again.

AF_Rob · 15 July 2018, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Allinthegame

Thanks for the input guys. Going to pull the trigger and buy a decent condition 16570 this month for £3500 or slightly under if I can. Appreciate the feedback! P.S anything I should look out for ? Lugholes or no lugholes? Serials I should look out for/ avoid? Thanks again.

My 16570 from 2010 (I believe) with the 3186 movement has a known issue where the mechanism fails to operate the hour hand. Mine developed this issue and cost me $500 to remedy. Rolex knows this issue and it is replaced with a more robust mechanism piece. While they were in there, they did a service, hence the cost. It’s a consideration. It was a bit of a hassle.

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mineral · 15 July 2018, 12:10 PM

Old and new, 40 years apart

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Largoshark · 15 July 2018, 12:48 PM

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Way better. Only way I would ever consider.

Personally, I would still prefer the steel bezel. But slap on a ceramic one, and you'll probably be looking at 2-3 year wait lists.

wisguy · 15 July 2018, 01:14 PM

I had a polar 5 digit, it was my first Rolex.

I bought it used for $3,650 about 7 years ago and sold it a year or so later for a small profit.

Looking back I wish I still had it, what does $3.6k buy you now???

Allinthegame · 17 July 2018, 02:03 AM

Seriously considering buying a 16570 polar (lugholes) with papers (2002) for £3800. The dealer wants £4000 but I think I can get him to knock off a few hundred. The watch is in great condition, not overly polished hardly any scratches. Is this a fair price in your opinion? Thanks.

Xyza0722 · 17 July 2018, 02:15 AM

Don’t remember if I already contributed

77 pages and still going

My exploring
F series 16570
Random 2012 216570

Allinthegame · 17 July 2018, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Allinthegame

Seriously considering buying a 16570 polar (lugholes) with papers (2002) for £3800. The dealer wants £4000 but I think I can get him to knock off a few hundred. The watch is in great condition, not overly polished hardly any scratches. Is this a fair price in your opinion? Thanks.

Also the Lume is quite visible In the light. Is that a good or bad thing ?

rgwarden · 17 July 2018, 04:59 AM

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Also the Lume is quite visible In the light. Is that a good or bad thing ?

Firstly the price sounds good. When I first espied the 16570 they were 2.5/3K max but that’s then. Nowadays really good models can hit 5K and NIBs....
Re the lume, if it’s 2002 it’ll be Luminova so shouldn’t be yellowing as per Tritium patina’d models, but I’ve always thought one of the traits of the Polar Explorers (I have a black faced 16570) was precisely that the lume plots are a different shade to the white face. I think that’s one of the many things that makes the Polars special in certain lights. So the fact the lume is ‘visible’ in the light is both normal and desirable. Maybe Polar owners can better chip in here.

I have an almost daily battle not to get a Polar to accompany my Black face 16570.... top top reference with perfect proportions IMO.

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joe100 · 17 July 2018, 11:59 PM

My 16570

Spam16v · 18 July 2018, 01:19 AM

I love how nobody notices it. I only mentioned it to one engineer who has some vintage Omegas that I trust not to be goofy about it. I’m sure a few have seen it but if it were a sub, I know I would have gotten called out by some of the hourly at the plant. Culture can be a bit weird, can’t walk in with a coffee without a “one dog, one bone?” Comment from the peanut gallery.

mineral · 18 July 2018, 02:01 AM

Explorer II from 70s. Love the funky design from that era.

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Robbyman · 18 July 2018, 02:42 AM

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Explorer II from 70s. Love the funky design from that era.

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I wish they still made that watch or one that looked close to it. The current version to me is just not as attractive.

toomuchtalk · 18 July 2018, 03:32 AM

On the North West peninsula, Iceland...
Great watch...

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Allinthegame · 18 July 2018, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rgwarden

Firstly the price sounds good. When I first espied the 16570 they were 2.5/3K max but that’s then. Nowadays really good models can hit 5K and NIBs....
Re the lume, if it’s 2002 it’ll be Luminova so shouldn’t be yellowing as per Tritium patina’d models, but I’ve always thought one of the traits of the Polar Explorers (I have a black faced 16570) was precisely that the lume plots are a different shade to the white face. I think that’s one of the many things that makes the Polars special in certain lights. So the fact the lume is ‘visible’ in the light is both normal and desirable. Maybe Polar owners can better chip in here.

I have an almost daily battle not to get a Polar to accompany my Black face 16570.... top top reference with perfect proportions IMO.

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I went today and offered £3800 on the spot, got the cash out tried to hand it over he wouldn’t budge from £3950 lol. I can go back tomorrow he said he’d hold it for me but I’m not sure if it’s worth it. 2001 with lug holes, been polished once or twice but it still looks smooth. Papers aswell. Gonna have to sleep on it. Thanks for the input.

Gimoozaabi · 18 July 2018, 09:09 AM

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On the North West peninsula, Iceland...
Great watch...

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Glad you picked the 5-digit Explorer II for your next travels. Care to share about it?

My Polar is my go to watch for my work-related travels. For my vacation though I will pick up the Tudor Black Bay GMT. I although love the Tudor, being a new watch, honey-moon phase and all, I put the Exp II with joy every morning when I go to work. It is perfect watch.

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RolexMe · 18 July 2018, 10:02 AM

Just for that very reason I'm addicted the Explorer II Polar dial to my collection next. I love the orange hand and will add an orange band once the purchase is complete. The issue is do I spend the $7200 for the CPP one or just pony up and add a few extra bucks to get new. That's if and when new comes along.

supersam80 · 18 July 2018, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mineral

Explorer II from 70s. Love the funky design from that era.

Likewise. Just looked at a birthyear one (1980) they're not cheap...

mineral · 18 July 2018, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbyman

I wish they still made that watch or one that looked close to it. The current version to me is just not as attractive.

I am with you that the current version six digits is less attractive in my opinion, perhaps I need to take sometimes to appreciate them. That’s why I only focus on the older five digits and 1655. These are beautiful watches and I never get tired of them

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toomuchtalk · 19 July 2018, 03:09 AM

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Glad you picked the 5-digit Explorer II for your next travels. Care to share about it?

My Polar is my go to watch for my work-related travels. For my vacation though I will pick up the Tudor Black Bay GMT. I although love the Tudor, being a new watch, honey-moon phase and all, I put the Exp II with joy every morning when I go to work. It is perfect watch.

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Thanks,
The five digit explorer two sits better on the wrist, less prone to knocks and just an all round better tool watch than the newer version.
I've got a black dial six digit one, but it's not as practical for expeditions...

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mahefa · 1 August 2018, 05:14 AM

Another experience with my Explorer II

I had too much speed (60mph) to too big waves and i jumped the first big wave and dived into upcoming wave with my jetski and got overboard as wave wiped me off. Propably quite normal to pro's, but in my case heart kept beating 2 hours after accident ��

My driving glasses and headscarf are now in sea, but Explorer II wanted to stay :)

It really makes a watch special when you have all kinds of experiences with it. Explorer II has been with me in many places.

TeddyS · 1 August 2018, 05:20 AM

To me it seems like the SS yachtmaster ii is the least desirable. I see way more threads about the explorer ii than I do the yachtmaster ii.

Give them explorer ii a ceramic bezel and it sells like hot cakes

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imperio · 1 August 2018, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TeddyS

To me it seems like the SS yachtmaster ii is the least desirable. I see way more threads about the explorer ii than I do the yachtmaster ii.

Give them explorer ii a ceramic bezel and it sells like hot cakes

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I was hoping a ceramic bezel explorer would be introduced this past Baselworld. Not so much my wallet...

TeddyS · 1 August 2018, 05:29 AM

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I was hoping a ceramic bezel explorer would be introduced this past Baselworld. Not so much my wallet...

Haha, it just looks so much more dynamic

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rolexinfl · 1 August 2018, 06:07 AM

I love the SS bezel of the ExpII and dont think it needs a ceramic black dial at all. IMO thats taking away from its design heritage and is unnecessary. The ExpII was always supposed to be 'rugged' enough for hard surfaces during spelunking and ceramic doesnt take well to that style.

Mephist · 1 August 2018, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DSJ

I'd like to see a discussion about TRFers thoughts on why the Explorer II's desirability and resale is lower than that of other Sports models. The longer I own mine, the more I like it, and I can't figure out why it's not more popular

It is just because of the bezel. It does not fit in. Look how similar the Submariner and GMT-master is, that is a winning look.

Explorer II is the ugly duckling. However I too love the Explorer II, but most people favor Submariner and GMT-Master II

CF999 · 1 August 2018, 06:55 AM

So nice to be that much different

15 July 2018, 12:10 PM	#2046
mineral "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,670	Old and new, 40 years apart Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Watching date changes every midnight

15 July 2018, 01:14 PM	#2048
wisguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 2,406	I had a polar 5 digit, it was my first Rolex. I bought it used for $3,650 about 7 years ago and sold it a year or so later for a small profit. Looking back I wish I still had it, what does $3.6k buy you now??? __________________ 5230G / 5146G / 124060 / BB58 / '59 Constellation

17 July 2018, 11:59 PM	#2053
joe100 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,753	My 16570 __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

18 July 2018, 02:01 AM	#2055
mineral "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,670	Explorer II from 70s. Love the funky design from that era. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Watching date changes every midnight

13 July 2018, 02:08 AM	#2041
Locust "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: Usa Watch: All Posts: 1,411	Stole this off Instagram but think it looks pretty sweet. Erika’s original 20mm with the polar 42mm Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

15 July 2018, 11:53 AM	#2044
Allinthegame "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: London Watch: Royal Oak/Tank 18k Posts: 262	Thanks for the input guys. Going to pull the trigger and buy a decent condition 16570 this month for £3500 or slightly under if I can. Appreciate the feedback! P.S anything I should look out for ? Lugholes or no lugholes? Serials I should look out for/ avoid? Thanks again.

17 July 2018, 02:03 AM	#2049
Allinthegame "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: London Watch: Royal Oak/Tank 18k Posts: 262	Seriously considering buying a 16570 polar (lugholes) with papers (2002) for £3800. The dealer wants £4000 but I think I can get him to knock off a few hundred. The watch is in great condition, not overly polished hardly any scratches. Is this a fair price in your opinion? Thanks.

18 July 2018, 01:19 AM	#2054
Spam16v "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Zac Location: Hamburg, NY Watch: 216570 Polar Posts: 71	I love how nobody notices it. I only mentioned it to one engineer who has some vintage Omegas that I trust not to be goofy about it. I’m sure a few have seen it but if it were a sub, I know I would have gotten called out by some of the hourly at the plant. Culture can be a bit weird, can’t walk in with a coffee without a “one dog, one bone?” Comment from the peanut gallery.

18 July 2018, 03:32 AM	#2057
toomuchtalk "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Posts: 2,139	On the North West peninsula, Iceland... Great watch... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

18 July 2018, 10:02 AM	#2060
RolexMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Sorry Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2	Just for that very reason I'm addicted the Explorer II Polar dial to my collection next. I love the orange hand and will add an orange band once the purchase is complete. The issue is do I spend the $7200 for the CPP one or just pony up and add a few extra bucks to get new. That's if and when new comes along.

1 August 2018, 05:20 AM	#2065
TeddyS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Teddy Location: London U.K. Watch: sea-dweller 126600 Posts: 670	To me it seems like the SS yachtmaster ii is the least desirable. I see way more threads about the explorer ii than I do the yachtmaster ii. Give them explorer ii a ceramic bezel and it sells like hot cakes Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 August 2018, 06:07 AM	#2068
rolexinfl "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: FL Posts: 663	I love the SS bezel of the ExpII and dont think it needs a ceramic black dial at all. IMO thats taking away from its design heritage and is unnecessary. The ExpII was always supposed to be 'rugged' enough for hard surfaces during spelunking and ceramic doesnt take well to that style.

1 August 2018, 06:55 AM	#2070
CF999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Watch: 1655 ,1675, 1016 Posts: 158	So nice to be that much different

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