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LLmrol · 19 February 2018, 03:57 AM

Hi,

Do you think that this rolex gmt pepsi is unpolished?

Many thanks for you input and help!

Bigblu10 · 19 February 2018, 04:00 AM

If it is, sure looks good. Lines are all crisp and sharp. Nice condition.

anakyn101 · 19 February 2018, 04:00 AM

Looks terrific!

CDNWatchNut · 19 February 2018, 04:14 AM

I concur with the above. If it has been polished, it was done very lightly and done well to the point where its moot.

adg31 · 19 February 2018, 04:15 AM

If it is I'm betting that whoever did it will have a long queue forming at their door for future work! Looks great.

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101031-28 · 19 February 2018, 04:17 AM

Looks nice and crisp to me, concur with the above comments, if a polish was ever done, they followed factory specs. Great looking GMT

HogwldFLTR · 19 February 2018, 04:18 AM

Looks great; the fading on the insert don't really match the wear on watch, imho.

Jakey · 19 February 2018, 04:20 AM

Service dial ?

rgwarden · 19 February 2018, 04:21 AM

How come it’s a Swiss only dial on a GMT Master rather than GMT Master ii? In my ignorance I thought the Swiss only was a late 90s thing?

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Zmdr · 19 February 2018, 04:36 AM

I'm saying polished. The brushing on the lugs is circular while if I'm not wrong the factory finish should be straight

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DoctorA · 19 February 2018, 04:36 AM

I’m no expert but the lugs show signs of polishing to my eyes!
Great watch though

bbressler · 19 February 2018, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Looks great; the fading on the insert don't really match the wear on watch, imho.

Yeah either the insert is not original or the watch has been lightly touched up. Either way, case looks great

bbressler · 19 February 2018, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zmdr

I'm saying polished. The brushing on the lugs is circular while if I'm not wrong the factory finish should be straight

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Brushing on the lugs is supposed to be diagonal like that

101031-28 · 19 February 2018, 04:39 AM

OP, do you know the year of production? Swiss only dials came from factory for a very short time on U and A serials if I remember correctly.

bp1000 · 19 February 2018, 04:40 AM

Dial looks wrong?

Just compare it against similar watches before you purchase.

Check this one out, seems too good to be true. Nice bezel fade indeed and nice brushing. All looks sharp on the case. But the fade doesn’t match the condition elsewhere. However there is some bracelet stretch to be expected.

But the dial... it could be a Frankenstein built for profit

paltak · 19 February 2018, 04:41 AM

It looks great but compared to my unpolished 16710, I would say it's been polished very lightly.

Bigblu10 · 19 February 2018, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbressler

Brushing on the lugs is supposed to be diagonal like that

X2. Correct grain for a 5 digit reference

lecorsaire · 19 February 2018, 04:41 AM

If it was polished at all, I sure as hell can't see it. The crown on the clasp looks fantastic! Usually they won't look like that if the watch has been polished. Really minty example! Go for it dude! What are they asking for this?

Zmdr · 19 February 2018, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbressler

Brushing on the lugs is supposed to be diagonal like that

You're probably right. Fwiw my modern sub has straight brushing so they may have changed it a while back

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stlwx21 · 19 February 2018, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paltak

It looks great but compared to my unpolished 16710, I would say it's been polished very lightly.

Mind sharing a picture of your unpolished 16710?

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HogwldFLTR · 19 February 2018, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgwarden

How come it’s a Swiss only dial on a GMT Master rather than GMT Master ii? In my ignorance I thought the Swiss only was a late 90s thing?

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16700s ran until 2000 concurrent with the 16710 GMT IIs. Swiss only ran from '98 to 2000. That would make the watch a late model 16700.

bbressler · 19 February 2018, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zmdr

You're probably right. Fwiw my modern sub has straight brushing so they may have changed it a while back

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Yeah, a difference between the 5 and 6 digits

adg31 · 19 February 2018, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zmdr

You're probably right. Fwiw my modern sub has straight brushing so they may have changed it a while back

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I recall that five digit references were generally given a circular graining. The later six digit models introduced straight graining - presumably to better match up with the bracelet.

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Zmdr · 19 February 2018, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adg31

I recall that five digit references were generally given a circular graining. The later six digit models introduced straight graining - presumably to better match up with the bracelet.

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I learnt something new today. I retract my previous statement. Thanks for sharing

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Mystro · 19 February 2018, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I’m no expert but the lugs show signs of polishing to my eyes!
Great watch though

X2. I have spent a lot of years learning how to properly touch up and polish a watch. My eye says it was lightly touched up but done correctly and with skill. That is not a bad thing and considered a “positive” to me.

Chewbacca · 19 February 2018, 05:08 AM

its touched up but its also nice.

adg31 · 19 February 2018, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zmdr

I learnt something new today. I retract my previous statement. Thanks for sharing

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That's the great thing with this forum; I've taken a (poor) photo of my 116000 against my 16610. Both are unpolished and you can just about see the difference. I'm sure that others here can illustrate the point better!

rgwarden · 19 February 2018, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

16700s ran until 2000 concurrent with the 16710 GMT IIs. Swiss only ran from '98 to 2000. That would make the watch a late model 16700.

That’s really useful thanks. I didn’t know the ‘Master’ ran that late in production.

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joli160 · 19 February 2018, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

its touched up but its also nice.

X2, bracelet has some wear inconsistent with zero scratches

Tools · 19 February 2018, 06:24 AM

No, it is not "unpolished".

It has been expertly refinished.

19 February 2018, 04:00 AM	#3
anakyn101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: IT/FR/NL Watch: DRSD/RedSuB/COMEX Posts: 431	Looks terrific! __________________ SUB: 16800 Ghost Bezel; 1680 200 RedSub; 16610LV FAT 4 (Y) NOS; 16610LV FAT 4 (F) NOS; 16610LV FAT 4 (F) NOS / EXP: I 14270; I Freccione 1655; SD: 16660 Triple 6; 1665 Submariner 2000-DRSD; 1665 Great White MKI; 116600 SD4K NOS (2); 116660 DSSD MKI; 16600 Sommozzatori Polipetto NOS; 16600 NOS; (2) 126600 SD43 NOS; 16600 COMEX NOS / DAYTONA: 116500 NOS (4); 16520 Zenith (6) NOS; 116520 (5) NOS; P.P+++

19 February 2018, 04:17 AM	#6
101031-28 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: 1665 Posts: 4,741	Looks nice and crisp to me, concur with the above comments, if a polish was ever done, they followed factory specs. Great looking GMT __________________ He could not just wear a watch. It had to be a Rolex. Ian Fleming

19 February 2018, 04:18 AM	#7
HogwldFLTR 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: What's on my wrist Posts: 33,256	Looks great; the fading on the insert don't really match the wear on watch, imho. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

19 February 2018, 04:36 AM	#11
DoctorA "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 6,523	I’m no expert but the lugs show signs of polishing to my eyes! Great watch though __________________ Wear the watch you like, not the one they tell you to wear!

19 February 2018, 04:39 AM	#14
101031-28 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: 1665 Posts: 4,741	OP, do you know the year of production? Swiss only dials came from factory for a very short time on U and A serials if I remember correctly. __________________ He could not just wear a watch. It had to be a Rolex. Ian Fleming

19 February 2018, 04:00 AM	#2
Bigblu10 Banned Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: Jaime Location: Here Posts: 5,606	If it is, sure looks good. Lines are all crisp and sharp. Nice condition.

19 February 2018, 04:14 AM	#4
CDNWatchNut "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Juan Location: Sherwood Park, Ab Watch: 114060 Posts: 1,509	I concur with the above. If it has been polished, it was done very lightly and done well to the point where its moot.

19 February 2018, 04:15 AM	#5
adg31 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 314	If it is I'm betting that whoever did it will have a long queue forming at their door for future work! Looks great. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

19 February 2018, 04:20 AM	#8
Jakey "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Jake Location: London Watch: SD43 & SS Daytona Posts: 309	Service dial ?

19 February 2018, 04:21 AM	#9
rgwarden "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: London Watch: 124270 Posts: 534	How come it’s a Swiss only dial on a GMT Master rather than GMT Master ii? In my ignorance I thought the Swiss only was a late 90s thing? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

19 February 2018, 04:36 AM	#10
Zmdr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Singapore Posts: 33	I'm saying polished. The brushing on the lugs is circular while if I'm not wrong the factory finish should be straight Sent from my LG-H930 using Tapatalk

19 February 2018, 04:40 AM	#15
bp1000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 4,697	Dial looks wrong? Just compare it against similar watches before you purchase. Check this one out, seems too good to be true. Nice bezel fade indeed and nice brushing. All looks sharp on the case. But the fade doesn’t match the condition elsewhere. However there is some bracelet stretch to be expected. But the dial... it could be a Frankenstein built for profit

19 February 2018, 04:41 AM	#16
paltak "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Bob Location: IL Posts: 822	It looks great but compared to my unpolished 16710, I would say it's been polished very lightly.

19 February 2018, 04:41 AM	#18
lecorsaire "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: NYC Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,541	If it was polished at all, I sure as hell can't see it. The crown on the clasp looks fantastic! Usually they won't look like that if the watch has been polished. Really minty example! Go for it dude! What are they asking for this? __________________ Rolex 116710 BLNR Rolex Day Date 118238 Champagne/Batons

19 February 2018, 05:08 AM	#26
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	its touched up but its also nice.

19 February 2018, 06:24 AM	#30
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,044	No, it is not "unpolished". It has been expertly refinished. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

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