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Old 9 April 2006, 10:16 PM   #1
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Gold Value In All Gold Watches.

Using these parts the actual gold value in the Rolex President can be determined as follows.

Case ring weights 18.5 grams. Contains 13.875 grams of pure gold. It has a value of approx $178.43.

Case back weighs 7.21 grams. Contains 5.41 grams of pure gold. It has a value of approx $69.57.

Bezel weighs 5.30 grams. Contains 3.98 grams of pure gold. It has a value of approx $51.18.

The bracelet weighs 68.85 grams. Contains 51.64 grams of gold. It has the most value at approx $664.09.

The total value of the pure gold in this Rolex President is approx $963.27.this s based on 18ct models 14ct would be quite a bit less.
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Old 10 April 2006, 12:11 AM   #2
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just goes to show how ridiculous it is for rolex to charge such a premium over their ss models
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It's not just Rolex - every watch manufactuer does the same thing. For instance my JLC Master moon was $8,000 Canadian list price in SS, and the rose gold version was $16,000 list. I don't have the weight but am pretty sure there isn't $8,000 worth of gold in the watch!

I'm sure there are other costs associated with gold (moreso with platinum) materials that are over and above the cost of the material alone. For instance I'm sure the gold is secured differently than SS is, and of course it costs more in inventory carrying costs to have gold on hand, likely different tooling would be required to cut it as compared to SS, etc. But still, I'm sure all those things don't justify the price increase......
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Realistic post, Padi...thanks. Probably the one sound reason why TT models are not that popular and are available easily as compared with the SS sports ones. The amount of gold in a TT is literally bugger all as compared with the enormous price difference between a similar SS and TT model.

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Old 10 April 2006, 04:11 AM   #5
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Realistic post, Padi...thanks. Probably the one sound reason why TT models are not that popular and are available easily as compared with the SS sports ones. The amount of gold in a TT is literally bugger all as compared with the enormous price difference between a similar SS and TT model.

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Again...especially if it's a knock-off.
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Old 10 April 2006, 04:12 AM   #6
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Again...especially if it's a knock-off.
That too, tosser!
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Old 10 April 2006, 07:22 AM   #7
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However:
Gold is much softer and the tooling therefore would last much longer.
Gold is much softer and the longevity of the watch proportional.
Gold (YELLOW) gold has a greater bling factor!!
But Platinum my friend is the epitome of hedonistic understatement.

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Old 10 April 2006, 10:30 AM   #8
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However:
Gold is much softer and the tooling therefore would last much longer.
Gold is much softer and the longevity of the watch proportional.
Gold (YELLOW) gold has a greater bling factor!!
But Platinum my friend is the epitome of hedonistic understatement.

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That must be why I like my ss/plat YM so much. =) maverick
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Old 10 April 2006, 11:49 AM   #9
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Have you seen Patek's new automatic chronograph? Cover of Watchtime...

In the article the Patek rep/US Pres says they made the case out of Platinum partly so the resulting high price would lower demand, as they expect demand to be high and they can only make so many...

Clearly, if Rolex and others were to price their gold models closer to their actual worth, they would not be able to keep up with demand...

or not, just a thought

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Old 10 April 2006, 12:45 PM   #10
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Have you seen Patek's new automatic chronograph? Cover of Watchtime...

In the article the Patek rep/US Pres says they made the case out of Platinum partly so the resulting high price would lower demand, as they expect demand to be high and they can only make so many...

Clearly, if Rolex and others were to price their gold models closer to their actual worth, they would not be able to keep up with demand...

or not, just a thought
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I think they do the pricing for the "exlusivity" only. Add Gold, limit quantities & jack up the price.
Just My opinion....
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Old 10 April 2006, 05:06 PM   #12
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Cost of Platinum?

Be very interested for a comparative breakdown on the cost of Platinum in a DD President given that it is almost twice the price of a YG DD with President.
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Old 10 April 2006, 06:18 PM   #13
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Be very interested for a comparative breakdown on the cost of Platinum in a DD President given that it is almost twice the price of a YG DD with President.
Well there you go then the price difference,not quite twice the price there must be a huge profit margin in precious metal watches.


Working Metal Prices Monday 10th April 2006 :
Last Changed Date : 10-04-06
Todays Gold Price : £ 341.02
UK Platinum Price : £ 622.85


Gold Price : $ 594.60
Platinum : $ 1,086.00
Todays Exchange Rate : $ 1.7436

Scrap value Based in grams

9ct 100% Fix gms: £ 4.11
9ct 98.5% Fix gms : £ 4.05
9ct 98% Fix : £ 4.03
9ct 97.5%Fix : £ 4.01
14ct 100% : £ 6.40
18ct 100% : £ 8.22
22ct 100% : £ 10.05
24ct 100% : £ 10.96
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Old 12 April 2006, 12:42 PM   #14
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Padi -

Very informative. I knew there wasn't a lot, but I had no idea it was so little. Sure makes the prices seem crazy...

Great info - really enjoyed
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I've always wondered the same thing. I knew they jacked us worse than the oil companies.
Thanks for the info.
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Old 12 April 2006, 10:28 PM   #16
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I've always wondered the same thing. I knew they jacked us worse than the oil companies.
Thanks for the info.
Yes agree on both parts
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Old 12 April 2006, 10:48 PM   #17
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Consider this too...

I've seen watches like Croton and other online/TV type brands, where they have 18K gold cases and bracelets, with a solid ETA movement in them, going for under US$1,500. Since they can still make a helluva profit on that asking price, you can imagine the type of profit a 'real' watchmaker takes in. Of course, when you buy a Rolex, most of the purchase price is for the name, IMHO. Sure it's a tough watch, but so much of the price/marketing is built around their namesake.
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Consider this too...

I've seen watches like Croton and other online/TV type brands, where they have 18K gold cases and bracelets, with a solid ETA movement in them, going for under US$1,500. Since they can still make a helluva profit on that asking price, you can imagine the type of profit a 'real' watchmaker takes in. Of course, when you buy a Rolex, most of the purchase price is for the name, IMHO. Sure it's a tough watch, but so much of the price/marketing is built around their namesake.
And who's going to be the first to rebel and stop buying Rolex and other high end brands because they are making an "obscene" profit on the gold? You want to be the one to start boycotting them? Let's face it, they've got us right where they want us, gobbling up their overpriced products because we love them and are fascinated by them.
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And who's going to be the first to rebel and stop buying Rolex and other high end brands because they are making an "obscene" profit on the gold? You want to be the one to start boycotting them? Let's face it, they've got us right where they want us, gobbling up their overpriced products because we love them and are fascinated by them.

Yep, I agree. Despite the high cost of living, it's still very popular.
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Yep, I agree. Despite the high cost of living, it's still very popular.
Where have I seen that line before?
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Old 13 April 2006, 04:50 AM   #21
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And who's going to be the first to rebel and stop buying Rolex and other high end brands because they are making an "obscene" profit on the gold? You want to be the one to start boycotting them? Let's face it, they've got us right where they want us, gobbling up their overpriced products because we love them and are fascinated by them.
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If we can get JJ to stop buying TT Rollies every 6 months,this would stop the NZ Market of Gold.

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