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Old 19 October 2018, 01:25 AM   #211
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I didn't think this thread would have any traction.
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Old 19 October 2018, 01:25 AM   #212
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The 'screws' in the bezel are fixed in place... You take the bezel off from inside the case. Whereas the screws in the caseback are regular screws, so they don't line up perfectly.
yeah, they are the receiver bits that the screw tightens into from the back. the appearance of it being a screw is aesthetics AFAIK. Either way, you are not tightening it from the front.
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Old 19 October 2018, 01:26 AM   #213
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yeah, they are the receiver bits that the screw tightens into from the back. the appearance of it being a screw is aesthetics AFAIK.
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Old 19 October 2018, 02:08 AM   #214
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Old 19 October 2018, 02:13 AM   #215
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The 'screws' in the bezel are fixed in place... You take the bezel off from inside the case. Whereas the screws in the caseback are regular screws, so they don't line up perfectly.
They are called ďbinding posts.Ē
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Old 19 October 2018, 02:15 AM   #216
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Rolex decided. In all their adverts and by doing it on the Skydweller.

So now OCD is an insult? lol at you "cool" Rolex fans. I bet if Rolex started to make all the crowns the same as the Skydweller, you "doesn't care" folk would change your tune. Like when Rolex made the cases bigger, added the ceramic bezel, changed the bracelet, went to SELs, etc.
The better option and more cost effect would be to remove the emblem off the crown altogether, then everyone's would line somewhere, that's if they supposed to line up with anything.Myself could not give a hoot where the crown emblem is upright or downside up it's a winding crown for winding a watch nothing more.And not something that's must be looked at and checked 24/7 whether its upright or not.Some say that the ceramic inserts and bracelets were functional improvements, cannot see any functional improvement in a upright or downside up winding crown, as no matter where the emblem is, its only function is to wind and adjust the watch.
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Old 19 October 2018, 02:17 AM   #217
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The better option and more cost effect would be to remove the emblem off the crown altogether, then everyone's would line somewhere, that's if they supposed to line up with anything.
Thatís a valid point, to which I would respond; If it doesnít matter, and itís just an aesthetics issue, and as many have mentioned that you canít see it while youíre wearing it anyway.....why does Rolex embellish the crown at all?
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Old 19 October 2018, 02:46 AM   #218
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Definitely wouldnít pay extra - Iíve got OCD but itís not that bad!


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Old 19 October 2018, 03:19 AM   #219
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Old 19 October 2018, 03:59 AM   #220
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Would you pay more for a correctly oriented crown?

I donít think wanting an object to be ďperfectĒ is wrong, especially one that establishes its value (and quite an elevated value) by being ďperfectĒ.

I donít think itís eye-rollable, bang-head-into-wallable, OCD, or misguided.

If it werenít ďbetterĒ when aligned, then Iíd challenge Rolex to start shooting marketing photos with coronets off kilter.

The marketing materials entice customers with an image of perfection, so why should it be ridiculous to desire the enticement even though itís not attainable (reliably)?


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Old 19 October 2018, 04:23 AM   #221
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I don’t think wanting an object to be “perfect” is wrong, especially one that establishes its value (and quite an elevated value) by being “perfect”.

I don’t think it’s eye-rollable, bang-head-into-wallable, OCD, or misguided.

If it weren’t “better” when aligned, then I’d challenge Rolex to start shooting marketing photos with coronets off kilter.

The marketing materials entice customers with an image of perfection, so why should it be ridiculous to desire the enticement even though it’s not attainable (reliably)?


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Perhaps you should read this thread from start to finish to get your answer. Rolex images in advertisements are just that. Marketing images. How many items do you order at a particular restaurant that don't look nearly as appealing as they do in an Ad on the TV. There is no such thing as crown "alignment". It stops turning on the case tube when the O ring stops it. You can argue your point 'till the cows come home, but it is what it is.
And I will add, the OP started this thread, and never jumped back in.
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Old 19 October 2018, 04:39 AM   #222
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Perhaps you should read this thread from start to finish to get your answer. Rolex images in advertisements are just that. Marketing images. How many items do you order at a particular restaurant that don't look nearly as appealing as they do in an Ad on the TV. There is no such thing as crown "alignment". It stops turning on the case tube when the O ring stops it. You can argue your point 'till the cows come home, but it is what it is.
And I will add, the OP started this thread, and never jumped back in.
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Old 19 October 2018, 04:39 AM   #223
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Perhaps you should read this thread from start to finish to get your answer. Rolex images in advertisements are just that. Marketing images. How many items do you order at a particular restaurant that don't look nearly as appealing as they do in an Ad on the TV. There is no such thing as crown "alignment". It stops turning on the case tube when the O ring stops it. You can argue your point 'till the cows come home, but it is what it is.
And I will add, the OP started this thread, and never jumped back in.

Why would you think I hadnít read it? Iím well aware of the realities of the situation.

We donít agree on this one. Someone who doesnít adopt your opinion isnít automatically misinformed.

This thread is fun, but youíve somehow got an urge to quiet the dialog... to teach us all how flawed our thinking is. My observation was meant to defend the right to voice the desire without being beaten back with switches.




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Old 19 October 2018, 05:00 AM   #224
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AP lines up their screw heads on the front but not the back...can't say I've ever noticed their crowns.

Would it bother you if the screws didn't line up?
Bezel screws are purely cosmetic, non functional.
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Old 19 October 2018, 05:13 AM   #226
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Exactly and since they are 6 sided and not round there is no way they could turn anyway!
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Old 19 October 2018, 05:24 AM   #227
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Old 19 October 2018, 05:28 AM   #228
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Nope, doesn’t bother me in the slightest. If you care, then take a look at sky-dwellers, I believe they come aligned.
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Neither is mine, although it is only a SS model, somebody mentioned that the PM SkyD's crown is aligned "correctly". And by the way, no I wouldn't pay anything extra for a "correctly" aligned crown, whatever that means. A mate of mine tells me his Milgauss crown is pointing to the "12" position, i.e. in a horizontal position.
By the way, why is that only the PM SkyD's crowns aligned "correctly the DD is the Flag Ship watch). As far as I can tell/work out, it has nothing to do with the command bezel, more likely, & I'm no watch maker, the position of the crown tube, after insertion into the case and the orientation of the "male" screw threads, with the "female" crown screw threads, would surly determine alignment.
I think that it's kind of quaint that the crown is "off centre" and not "perfect". I can understand that in the Rolex brochures it will be aligned as a marketing ploy. Some wise guy might suggest that Rolex aren't any good, since they can't get the coronet aligned up/down.
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Rolex decided. In all their adverts and by doing it on the Skydweller.

So now OCD is an insult? lol at you "cool" Rolex fans. I bet if Rolex started to make all the crowns the same as the Skydweller, you "doesn't care" folk would change your tune. Like when Rolex made the cases bigger, added the ceramic bezel, changed the bracelet, went to SELs, etc.

Only PM Sky Dwellers have the crown always up alignment feature. I agree it does define the crown up as the standard. My take is that Rolex must be in financial difficulty in that they haven't made this apart of all their watches. It's a tough market they live in. It's amazing that this topic has over 200 responses. I have a hard time seeing the crown on my watches without the aid of reading glasses. No way I'd notice casually.
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Old 19 October 2018, 06:10 AM   #229
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Perhaps you should read this thread from start to finish to get your answer. Rolex images in advertisements are just that. Marketing images. How many items do you order at a particular restaurant that don't look nearly as appealing as they do in an Ad on the TV. There is no such thing as crown "alignment". It stops turning on the case tube when the O ring stops it. You can argue your point 'till the cows come home, but it is what it is.
And I will add, the OP started this thread, and never jumped back in.
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Old 19 October 2018, 06:21 AM   #230
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Only PM Sky Dwellers have the crown always up alignment feature. I agree it does define the crown up as the standard. My take is that Rolex must be in financial difficulty in that they haven't made this apart of all their watches. It's a tough market they live in. It's amazing that this topic has over 200 responses. I have a hard time seeing the crown on my watches without the aid of reading glasses. No way I'd notice casually.
My eyesight is the same.
Personally i am just thankful our Rolex watches are arguably the most reliable water proof watches on the market. And it's due in part to the patented Rolex Screw down crown as it currently is.

I'm not convinced the PM Skydweller arangement necessarily defines the Coronet up allignment as being the standard, or for that matter even correct.
It does sadly validate it

I thought there will be increased volumes of threads(no pun intended) around the Coronet allignment when the PM Skydweller came out.
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Brand new crown and tube, doesn't line up. Too bad

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Old 20 October 2018, 09:22 PM   #234
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Exactly and since they are 6 sided and not round there is no way they could turn anyway!
AP Royal Oak bezel screws are functional. The hex is locked into the bezel and threads into a hollow screw on the bottom to sandwich the entire case assembly between gaskets. If all eight screws went missing, the case would fall apart. Aligning the bottom screw heads perfectly would be near impossible since there are only two positions where the top screw aligns aesthetically. Misalignment of the lower screw heads happens for the same reason a Rolex tube and crown assembly rarely align.
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Letís go back to a previous post in this thread.

If this really bothers you wind the crown in until it is tight and back it off to where ever you want.

It will make no difference to water resistance.

There you go....fixed for no cost.

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My first Rolex - a GMT ceramic I bought in 2007 has perfect alignment.

A few years later during a service, Bob Ridley replaced the crown and tube on a 1680 red I had recently purchased.

I asked Bob if he could align it and he educated me that this just wasnít done, and not in his usual gentle way. If Bob Ridley says no...


APs donít line up, and letís be honest - those watches get a ton more TLC during assembly...


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I will add that things have changed somewhat with the Rolex case tubes and crowns. I have a 50% chance of lining up the coronet...it is all with the case tube, when the thread catches and/or how much torque is applied.
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I will add that things have changed somewhat with the Rolex case tubes and crowns. I have a 50% chance of lining up the coronet...it is all with the case tube, when the thread catches and/or how much torque is applied.


Interesting feedback Phillip. Your dad shut me down pretty quickly as my post explained. LOL

Does having a 50% chance represent an increase in the likelihood compared to pre-change? Sounds like maybe thatís what youíre saying.




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My eyesight is the same.
Personally i am just thankful our Rolex watches are arguably the most reliable water proof watches on the market. And it's due in part to the patented Rolex Screw down crown as it currently is.
The screw down crown was not a Rolex invention around 1925 Hans Wilsdorf of the RWC heard that two watchmakers one was Paul Perregaux other George Perrolet they had taken out a Swiss patent for the first twin lock screwed stem system crown.Now Hans Wilsdorf of Rolex grasped that a hermetically sealed case, together with careful fitting of the crystal and a special stem mechanism, would produce a better waterproof wristwatch.He quickly negotiated to have the Perregaux patent assigned to him. Wilsdorf then obtained a British patent on October 18 1926 soon after the Rolex Oyster was born and became a commercial success.
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Brand new crown and tube, doesn't line up. Too bad

I'm not so sure the OP could handle this "imperfection" and would have a meltdown.
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