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Marcjvr · 26 October 2020, 10:09 PM

The new Subs are set for a long run, but at some point in the future will most likely be tweaked again.

Different colors aside, what do people think/guess the next design changes are that will be made to the Sub line?

brandrea · 26 October 2020, 10:24 PM

Who knows ... but IMHO chamfers would add a nice level of detail and interest to the case.

jrs146 · 26 October 2020, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

Who knows ... but IMHO chamfers would add a nice level of detail and interest to the case.

Chamfers would be great. I love them on my 5-digits. On the other hand they add an entirely new dynamic with how quickly and easily they change when polished. One thing I kind of like about the 6-digit cases is they can be cleaned up without really having any noticeable physical change to the change. But a nice chamfer really is cool.

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fskywalker · 26 October 2020, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

Who knows ... but IMHO chamfers would add a nice level of detail and interest to the case.

That would be cool, but looks like Rolex decided to give Tudor the exclusivity on them. Love it on the Pelagos

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enjoythemusic · 27 October 2020, 12:26 AM

It depends... Does anyone know what will bring the most debate from Vloggers to discuss needlessly (and endlessly), as that is what Rolex should do.

mgsooner · 27 October 2020, 12:45 AM

I think the next move should be/will be some sort of change to the bezel material. The shiny ceramics are getting fairly long in the tooth at this point and will especially be by the time Rolex is ready to roll out the next gen.

vh2k · 27 October 2020, 01:03 AM

If Rolex wants to generate EVEN MORE interest and hype in the line (and make boatloads of money doing it), they could invest in their own bracelets/accessories for the Submariner.

A Rolex branded rubber strap at $500 would have an extremely high take rate. (Not Oysterflex... just a high-quality, normal Rolex rubber strap.)

What's more, offer the rubber strap in five colors (black, white, red, green, and blue)... and you'll have Submariner owners going crazy to purchase two or three of them.

Oystersteel · 27 October 2020, 01:17 AM

Fatter lugs!

rtalk · 27 October 2020, 02:15 AM

Perhaps they will allow it on an OysterFlex. Things I would like to see which were present in vintage Rolex:

- big crown. No crown guard.
- red triangle
- Explorer dial

brucethemanlee · 27 October 2020, 02:49 AM

That's probably more than 10 years from now....

csaltphoto · 27 October 2020, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mgsooner

I think the next move should be/will be some sort of change to the bezel material. The shiny ceramics are getting fairly long in the tooth at this point and will especially be by the time Rolex is ready to roll out the next gen.

I would like that to be the next move. I have never warmed up the the ceramics and they don't seem especially innovative at this point. All sorts of middle and low end watches use them, as well as high end watches.

Same with lume. Superluminova is crap and featured on every watch from pricey to cheap. There are far better and more innovative solutions out there.

The glidelock is cool but kind of thick and clunky.

jlovda · 27 October 2020, 03:29 AM

When do you think Rolex (not Tudor) will move away from Mercedes hands on Sub, GMT and Exp models?

TswaneNguni · 27 October 2020, 03:34 AM

Most likely we will go through the out of the blue comes the new ss blue sub ..

Pw92676 · 27 October 2020, 03:36 AM

Interchangeability with an oysterflex. Won’t happen anytime soon but then again neither will the next sub variant.

Kowaco · 27 October 2020, 03:53 AM

Make the case square 41x41

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Ranger67 · 27 October 2020, 03:58 AM

Offer an option of no date throughout the range.

Dirt · 27 October 2020, 05:25 AM

Perhaps a generously curved Chrystal

Ozzbozz44 · 27 October 2020, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtalk

Perhaps they will allow it on an OysterFlex. Things I would like to see which were present in vintage Rolex:

- big crown. No crown guard.
- red triangle
- Explorer dial

Same here.

But I was able to scratch the itch of the first two requirements, by buying the Tudor BB 58 ;)

enjoythemusic · 27 October 2020, 06:00 AM

Internally......... Decrease friction within various parts of the movement while increasing stability and reliability. Reduce the need for lubricant, and extend the lifecycle where applicable. Make the movement 'easy' to service, especially known normal wear items.

JRell · 27 October 2020, 06:03 AM

10 years from now who knows. They just changed. Styles can change in many different directions from now until then.

Rashid.bk · 27 October 2020, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

Who knows ... but IMHO chamfers would add a nice level of detail and interest to the case.

I would love beveled lugs and lug holes. Won’t happen though.
I’ll tell you what though, if they brought back chamfers in today’s climate, for Rolex it would mean a huge amount of whining, for one, is it too much or too little. You know us, we’re way too critical.
Rolex is smart, the oyster case and bracelet are about as basic a design you can get.

Etschell · 27 October 2020, 07:50 AM

rolex is going to do away with removable lug bars and fix it in. that way you cant change the strap. it's the rolex way.

flytier · 27 October 2020, 08:29 AM

No mater the change, subtle or not, people are going to run out and buy one like they are buying their last gasp of air.

TTalk · 27 October 2020, 10:21 AM

40mm.

georgekart · 27 October 2020, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtalk

Perhaps they will allow it on an OysterFlex. Things I would like to see which were present in vintage Rolex:

- big crown. No crown guard.
- red triangle
- Explorer dial

Quote:

Originally Posted by vh2k

If Rolex wants to generate EVEN MORE interest and hype in the line (and make boatloads of money doing it), they could invest in their own bracelets/accessories for the Submariner.

A Rolex branded rubber strap at $500 would have an extremely high take rate. (Not Oysterflex... just a high-quality, normal Rolex rubber strap.)

What's more, offer the rubber strap in five colors (black, white, red, green, and blue)... and you'll have Submariner owners going crazy to purchase two or three of them.

If they allow it on a rubber strap it's only going to be an Oysterflex. By then they'll probably release a special model with special end links that only the OF model will get (like Daytona) so you can't put the bracelet version on OF and vice versa. And here's the kicker. They are going to make a matte bezel for the OF version because why not. And everyone will go crazy... again.

Onikage · 27 October 2020, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtalk

Perhaps they will allow it on an OysterFlex. Things I would like to see which were present in vintage Rolex:

- big crown. No crown guard.
- red triangle
- Explorer dial

Explorer dial for the win. The other stuff Tudor has covered though.

Psmith · 27 October 2020, 10:37 AM

Some color and strap options would be nice, and a lumed bezel.

vh2k · 27 October 2020, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgekart

If they allow it on a rubber strap it's only going to be an Oysterflex. By then they'll probably release a special model with special end links that only the OF model will get (like Daytona) so you can't put the bracelet version on OF and vice versa.

OF is fine for a PM watch. SS watch doesn’t need that; it’s overkill.

But, I totally get what you are saying. Rolex doesn’t make it easy to change things up.

jets · 27 October 2020, 11:21 AM

Ceramic material that looks more like shiny aluminum for bezels.

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Bladeshot · 27 October 2020, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Oystersteel

Fatter lugs!

Oh, no, you didn’t!!!!

26 October 2020, 10:09 PM	#1
Marcjvr "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Southeast Watch: 214270 Posts: 2,554	What would be the next physical change to the Sub design? The new Subs are set for a long run, but at some point in the future will most likely be tweaked again. Different colors aside, what do people think/guess the next design changes are that will be made to the Sub line?

27 October 2020, 12:26 AM	#5
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,383	It depends... Does anyone know what will bring the most debate from Vloggers to discuss needlessly (and endlessly), as that is what Rolex should do. __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

27 October 2020, 12:45 AM	#6
mgsooner "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Real Name: Matthew Location: Tulsa, OK, USA Posts: 1,905	I think the next move should be/will be some sort of change to the bezel material. The shiny ceramics are getting fairly long in the tooth at this point and will especially be by the time Rolex is ready to roll out the next gen. __________________ \|Rolex Submariner 114060\|Rolex Datejust 126234 silver dial\| \|Tudor Heritage Chrono 70330B\| \|Grand Seiko SBGT021 day-date quartz\|

27 October 2020, 02:15 AM	#9
rtalk "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Seattle Watch: 16710T Posts: 547	Perhaps they will allow it on an OysterFlex. Things I would like to see which were present in vintage Rolex: - big crown. No crown guard. - red triangle - Explorer dial __________________ 116519 Grey dial Oysterflex Daytona. 116500 Black. 116710BLNR. 16710T. Rolex Explorer I 39MM. 4 digit DateJust. JLC Master Control with Sector Dial. Omega FOIS. Grand Seiko Four Seasons (Spring Version). Tudor Royal. IWC Cal 83 (~1940s). 41MM sub. Omega CK859.

27 October 2020, 06:00 AM	#19
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,383	Internally......... Decrease friction within various parts of the movement while increasing stability and reliability. Reduce the need for lubricant, and extend the lifecycle where applicable. Make the movement 'easy' to service, especially known normal wear items. __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

26 October 2020, 10:24 PM	#2
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,525	Who knows ... but IMHO chamfers would add a nice level of detail and interest to the case.

27 October 2020, 01:03 AM	#7
vh2k "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: USA Posts: 3,015	If Rolex wants to generate EVEN MORE interest and hype in the line (and make boatloads of money doing it), they could invest in their own bracelets/accessories for the Submariner. A Rolex branded rubber strap at $500 would have an extremely high take rate. (Not Oysterflex... just a high-quality, normal Rolex rubber strap.) What's more, offer the rubber strap in five colors (black, white, red, green, and blue)... and you'll have Submariner owners going crazy to purchase two or three of them.

27 October 2020, 01:17 AM	#8
Oystersteel "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Real Name: Felly Location: Washington State Watch: Exp 2/Sub/YM/GV Posts: 716	Fatter lugs!

27 October 2020, 02:49 AM	#10
brucethemanlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: 1 of 13 Colonies Posts: 8,489	That's probably more than 10 years from now....

27 October 2020, 03:29 AM	#12
jlovda "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: John Location: Midwest Watch: 5513,1675,216570 Posts: 1,465	When do you think Rolex (not Tudor) will move away from Mercedes hands on Sub, GMT and Exp models?

27 October 2020, 03:34 AM	#13
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,608	Most likely we will go through the out of the blue comes the new ss blue sub ..

27 October 2020, 03:36 AM	#14
Pw92676 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Georgia Posts: 6,121	Interchangeability with an oysterflex. Won’t happen anytime soon but then again neither will the next sub variant.

27 October 2020, 03:53 AM	#15
Kowaco "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Clemson Watch: G Shock Posts: 608	Make the case square 41x41 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

27 October 2020, 03:58 AM	#16
Ranger67 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Real Name: Gary Location: London UK Watch: 116613LB Bluesy Posts: 1,066	Offer an option of no date throughout the range.

27 October 2020, 05:25 AM	#17
Dirt "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brisbane Watch: DSSD Posts: 7,810	Perhaps a generously curved Chrystal

27 October 2020, 06:03 AM	#20
JRell "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Pittsburgh Watch: 126610LN Posts: 6,538	10 years from now who knows. They just changed. Styles can change in many different directions from now until then. __________________ 126610LN

27 October 2020, 07:50 AM	#22
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	rolex is going to do away with removable lug bars and fix it in. that way you cant change the strap. it's the rolex way. __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

27 October 2020, 08:29 AM	#23
flytier Banned Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Kansas Posts: 76	Who really cares?? No mater the change, subtle or not, people are going to run out and buy one like they are buying their last gasp of air.

27 October 2020, 10:21 AM	#24
TTalk Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 650	40mm.

27 October 2020, 10:37 AM	#27
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Some color and strap options would be nice, and a lumed bezel. __________________

27 October 2020, 11:21 AM	#29
jets "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mario Location: CANADA Posts: 2,483	Ceramic material that looks more like shiny aluminum for bezels. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ ♛ DJII 116234 · Submariner 126610LV · Yacht Master 42 226659 ✿ Pelagos 25600TN Ω X-33 Speedmaster Skywalker · 1861 Speedmaster Modsukoshi · SMP 2254.50 · SMP 2230.50 NAC · Seamaster 300 166.0324 · Genève 162.037 Seiko SLA033 Willard · SKX007

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