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Old 17 October 2018, 12:18 AM   #151
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I wouldn't pay anymore.

Given the general cost of a Rolex, I think it should be a detail included.
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Old 17 October 2018, 12:19 AM   #152
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Would you pay more for a correctly oriented crown?

My late 2014 daytona happens to line up but I wouldn’t have paid extra for it.


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Old 17 October 2018, 12:39 AM   #153
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Old 17 October 2018, 12:43 AM   #154
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Old 17 October 2018, 01:29 AM   #155
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Hey Padi. Good to see you posting.

My other favorite response to this crown inquiry is the comparison with logos on the rims of automobile tires...

How could you (with a straight face) demand that logos on your tires be right side up at all times...
How about your steering wheel then? A correctly aligned car will drive straight even if the steering wheel is off a few splines on the shaft. But it sure is nice if it’s on straight. Absolutely, positively, not a must....but it’s nice.
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Old 17 October 2018, 01:44 AM   #156
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How about your steering wheel then? A correctly aligned car will drive straight even if the steering wheel is off a few splines on the shaft. But it sure is nice if it’s on straight. Absolutely, positively, not a must....but it’s nice.


I don’t think this analogy works.

There is some degree of a visual reference point with functionality behind it for a steering wheel. I’ve never had one misaligned...

At any rate, the wheel logo / crown situations are more cosmetic and do not imply anything else...and they are equally silly
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Old 17 October 2018, 02:56 AM   #157
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I don’t think this analogy works.

There is some degree of a visual reference point with functionality behind it for a steering wheel. I’ve never had one misaligned...

At any rate, the wheel logo / crown situations are more cosmetic and do not imply anything else...and they are equally silly
It doesn't matter if you've ever had one misaligned or not. The fact is a properly aligned car will track straight, regardless of the steering wheel's orientation, making the steering wheel's position....cosmetic. Yet, we still would prefer it be on straight. Dismissing something as silly because you don't agree is your prerogative.
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Old 17 October 2018, 02:58 AM   #158
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Lol, no.
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Old 17 October 2018, 03:02 AM   #159
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Would you pay more for a correctly oriented crown?

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It doesn't matter if you've ever had one misaligned or not. The fact is a properly aligned car will track straight, regardless of the steering wheel's orientation, making the steering wheel's position....cosmetic. Yet, we still would prefer it be on straight. Dismissing something as silly because you don't agree is your prerogative.


I think it’s all out prerogative to disagree and pontificate. It’s an Internet forum after all.

I just find the Rolex crown topic to be as tiresome as the “is it safe” topic and “price increase rumors”...but I get that new folks join every day and ask the same old questions....another Internet forum artifact. 🤷🏻*♂️
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Old 17 October 2018, 03:06 AM   #160
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Old 17 October 2018, 03:09 AM   #161
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I think it’s all out prerogative to disagree and pontificate. It’s an Internet forum after all.

I just find the Rolex crown topic to be as tiresome as the “is it safe” topic and “price increase rumors”...but I get that new folks join every day and ask the same old questions....another Internet forum artifact. ����*♂️
I totally agree. Do you know what I do when I see a tiresome thread title? I skip right over it.
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Old 17 October 2018, 03:38 AM   #162
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I totally agree. Do you know what I do when I see a tiresome thread title? I skip right over it.

That’s a valid approach! But then what would we talk about here on Steve’s TRF site?

I need to give up on the idea of convincing anybody of anything...

Carry on.
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Old 17 October 2018, 04:10 AM   #163
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Old 17 October 2018, 04:19 AM   #164
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How about your steering wheel then? A correctly aligned car will drive straight even if the steering wheel is off a few splines on the shaft. But it sure is nice if it’s on straight. Absolutely, positively, not a must....but it’s nice.
Apples vs Oranges. A steering wheel on a car that is "off" is very noticeable as your hands are on it and it is right in front of you. How do you manage to "see" the little coronet on the crown with your watch strapped onto your wrist? I can't see it no matter which wrist my watch sits on. You must have awesome vison in your eyes!
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Old 17 October 2018, 06:17 AM   #165
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Apples vs Oranges. A steering wheel on a car that is "off" is very noticeable as your hands are on it and it is right in front of you. How do you manage to "see" the little coronet on the crown with your watch strapped onto your wrist? I can't see it no matter which wrist my watch sits on. You must have awesome vison in your eyes!
I watch the road, not the steering wheel.
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Old 17 October 2018, 06:19 AM   #166
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I don’t think this analogy works.

There is some degree of a visual reference point with functionality behind it for a steering wheel. I’ve never had one misaligned...

At any rate, the wheel logo / crown situations are more cosmetic and do not imply anything else...and they are equally silly
It absolutely does not work.
It depends somewhat on the steering mechanism used but there are certainly considerations around hydraulic power steering variable ratio mechanisims like recirculating ball and nut setups and Rack and pinion setups.
It's customary to have a different ratio comming into play whilst the steering is actually on center with the ratio essentially changing progressively as it's turned further toward the stop on either side.

Modern electric assisted power steering has a similar arrangement around the centre(straight ahead).
Whilst they are still hydraulic there is added electronic technology to make work, with a common criticism of the system being a certain type of "vagueness" to the feeling or feedback when positioned "on centre".

With reference to the comment about a steering wheel being positioned a few splines out on the shaft.
It would take some serious massaging of the wheel allignment settings to make it anywhere near feeling correct whilst driving in general.
Actually i would consider it an impossibility unless one were on drugs on anebriated.

Anyway, as you so rightly point out it bears no corelation what so ever to the effect of a random positioning of the emblem on a Winding crown when snugged down to an unspecified torque value
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Old 17 October 2018, 06:27 AM   #167
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It doesn't matter if you've ever had one misaligned or not. The fact is a properly aligned car will track straight, regardless of the steering wheel's orientation, making the steering wheel's position....cosmetic. Yet, we still would prefer it be on straight. Dismissing something as silly because you don't agree is your prerogative.
In some ways i suppose you are correct about the allignment being massaged to be able to make a car "track straight" especially with the amount of adjustment available with IRS.
But the overall setup of the vehicle will be wrong and not in accordance with the manufacturers specifications.

I put it to you that increased tyre wear and increased fuel economy will almost certainly result.
And steering feel "off centre" will be different from one side to the other
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Old 17 October 2018, 06:30 AM   #168
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it should be perfect every time
Mine are all perfect in their imperfections.
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Old 17 October 2018, 06:34 AM   #169
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Old 17 October 2018, 06:36 AM   #170
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I think it’s all out prerogative to disagree and pontificate. It’s an Internet forum after all.

I just find the Rolex crown topic to be as tiresome as the “is it safe” topic and “price increase rumors”...but I get that new folks join every day and ask the same old questions....another Internet forum artifact. ����*♂️
Actually i have noticed that it's mostly a characteristic of this forum.
And not an issue for other brand forums or necessarily other Rolex forums.
I have been a member of watch forums pretty much since they started up, and this one has a particular culture.
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Old 17 October 2018, 06:37 AM   #171
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Old 17 October 2018, 06:39 AM   #172
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Old 17 October 2018, 07:17 AM   #173
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Bas you can correct this to a crown at 12 position by how far you screw the tube in correct? Or if the tube has to be bottomed out then by how far above the watch case it sits? I would think it would be very time consuming to get this spot on and its why it isnt currently done.
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Old 17 October 2018, 07:23 AM   #174
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Would you pay more for a correctly oriented crown?

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Actually i have noticed that it's mostly a characteristic of this forum.
And not an issue for other brand forums or necessarily other Rolex forums.
I have been a member of watch forums pretty much since they started up, and this one has a particular culture.


So members don’t keep asking about discounts on Subs and spotting Rolex watches at Costco in other Forums?
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Old 17 October 2018, 07:28 AM   #175
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Old 17 October 2018, 08:30 AM   #176
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Bas you can correct this to a crown at 12 position by how far you screw the tube in correct? Or if the tube has to be bottomed out then by how far above the watch case it sits? I would think it would be very time consuming to get this spot on and its why it isnt currently done.
That about sums it up.
You have come to your own logical conclusion.

To set it up with the tube inserted into the case as required to have the Coronet alligned.
It would require a fair amount of time and resources not allowed for currently.
There will be a good many extra steps and proceedures required.

Even with careful prior matching of components. It's not inconceivable the Coronet allignment process could take as long as the assembly of the entire watch.

I should imagine it would put the exercise at the very bottom of the priorities list.
Perhaps when Rolex can charge more for the watches and servicing, then it will be viable to them
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Old 17 October 2018, 08:31 AM   #177
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Not as far as i know.
It's a feature strictly reserved for PM models.
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Old 17 October 2018, 08:32 AM   #178
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Just tighten it to where it is straight up and down.
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Old 17 October 2018, 08:42 AM   #179
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So members don’t keep asking about discounts on Subs and spotting Rolex watches at Costco in other Forums?
Nah, nowhere near as prevalent

Some have been nore socially cohesive as well.
And others have a good deal more depth in the team, so to speak. That is to say that some of the members and or moderators either have been or are more prestigious in some ways, with far greater experience. And contribute more overall and make a more profound difference
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Old 17 October 2018, 08:42 AM   #180
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$10 more. Maybe.
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