Newbie to vintage Rolex & some datejust questions

[yemenmocha]

Hello,

New to vintage Rolex here. Once I started looking at Datejust models I couldn't figure out why my memory of liking them was so different than what I felt when I saw the current ones, and then I figured it out... I like the vintage ones and didn't realize how many changes there are.

Here is an example of the older Datejust that I like with this champagne color, thin ticks/markers, slim dashes between each tick/marker, and what looks to me like a flatter set of ridges on the bezel.



My questions:

1. Is there a FAQ for the Datejust model?

2. What is the model number for the datejust that has the above characteristics? (and what years can I find those)

3. What year did they switch from the small ticks to the "ladder" like pattern that connects each ticker on the perimeter of the dial. Like this: (and what's the correct terminology for that?)



4. Are these 14k or 18k YG in this timeframe? What years have the champagne dial? ( I dislike the dark gold dial they have now)

5. What can I expect to pay for one of these, and what sort of condition would that be for that price? it seems like there's a lot of datejust models for sale but I notice that few places post pics of the actual timepiece (they just use a plain datejust photo for many examples).

6. Does the stainless steel datejust with the above characteristics have the same years before the same changes were made? What is the model number for the SS model?

Thank you in advance for your help.

[slcbbrown]

I'm no expert but had a DJ just like that one. Seems to me that that look was available for decades, if I'm right, they came in 14c and 18c. This is a very common Rolex model and lots of them are in the used market.

I would expect to pay less than $2,000 depending on the age. The condition of the bracelet can be a real differentiator for older DJ's. There could be a lot of stretch in some older jubilees, and replacing the bracelet is expensive.

[nyyankees]

Your pic is a 16013. It had an acrylic crystal. It replaced the 1601 which had a pie pan dial and the 1570 movement. I believe the train track dial surfaced in the late 80's early 90's. In the 90's the 16013 was d/c and replaced by the 16233 which had a sapphire crystal. The 16013 you show came with 18kt fluted yellow gold bezel and crown. You find that model in the $1500 range here and on TZ. On the SS side the dials followed the same progression but the early models had a SS engine turned bezel and then at some point, I think in the 90's (not sure) they began to offer it in a smooth SS bezel.

[Newportkrieger]

Here is my 1601; acrylic crystal, 14K/SS, fluted bezel, cal 1670 movement circa 1971. Finding a correct tight TT jubilee bracelet is expensive and if you are liek me and want its mfg to be properly matched to the watch, almost impossible.

[PJS500]

I have that exact watch or very close. It is on the right. On the left is my new 18K TT DJ with Super Jubilee purchased last year. I purchased the original watch new in November 1980. It is 14K with Quickset and acrylic crystal. I think they switched to 18K a couple of years later,

[HFLO]

well, I like mine on leather, simple yet classic

[yemenmocha]

Thank you everyone for replies.

If it is sent in for Rolex service, what is the price of a new TT jubilee?

[eddie-rolex/tudor]

I have checked with RSC and the new jubilee is close to USD570.

[slcbbrown]

Originally Posted by eddie-rolex/tudor

I have checked with RSC and the new jubilee is close to USD570.

That sounds way cheap for a new jubilee. I would have thought $2,000 for a new, TT jubilee.

[eddie-rolex/tudor]

I have a 1601 with jubliee band from early 70's and it is not really in good shape, RSC recommended me to buy a new S/S jubliee but I don't feel like the new clap so I passed.

[rmfnla]

Originally Posted by slcbbrown

That sounds way cheap for a new jubilee. I would have thought $2,000 for a new, TT jubilee.

That's for service, not a watch.

[DoubleRedRolex]

two tone jubilee will run you around $2400 from RSC, and $570 sounds about right for an all stainless version. You can also buy a pre-owned bracelet with the same style clasp (if thats an issue to you) for about half the cost of a new one.