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Rolex74 · 31 May 2008, 01:31 AM

Here is another Daytona scam, I emailed him and asked if I could come see the watch so we could both take it to an AD to have it authenticated, here was his response....

Dear rusty974,

I am sorry but no we will not travel 4 hours for that when if you feel theres a chance then dont bid but we have a baby to tend too and we are getting ready to move out of state soon thats why we are selling these things cause we are needing the money to move june 7th

- 777ethomas

I emailed back asking for the serial number...This is a scam and it stinks bad!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:X:RTQ:US:1123

I hope Terry sees this and reports it

DSJ · 31 May 2008, 01:44 AM

I dunno, that's a tough call. He's also got a DJ. Looking at his record, it' decent, but the largest item he's sold was a ring for $187.

Strange that he wouldn't be willing to meet for inspection. That alone would make me not buy. I think people are foolish to pay thousands for a watch and not take a drive or spend a few hundred for a flight to properly inspect something.

Rolex74 · 31 May 2008, 05:33 AM

Yeah he still won't give me a serial number, I told him this auction looked to be a scam and he got upset, I told him it should be reported to ebay...his response

Dear rusty974,

look this is my auction and not a scam just read our feedback ratings no I do not want to take more photos for someone like you I have already contacted ebay about your threats and I will contact them again and give them all of what they want and more just not you.

- 777ethomas

Look at his feedback, while it was good it was for all these small ticket items, nothing large, now he has 4 Rolexes up for auction, take notice to the Sub, he refers to it as a datejust, so he seems to be clueless....

Look at the photo of the certificate, this is not Rolex and it is such a small photo...

Question - Why would you have a TT Sub at a buy it now of $6,000, a TT DJ with a buy it now of $3,500 and a ladies TT DJ with a buy it now of $5,500 but start a DAYTONA at $1500, hmmmm

I hope the TerryNator gets to see all of these auctions

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Mens-18K-S...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Ladys-18k-...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mens-18k-SS-ROLE...QQcmdZViewItem

Terry Newton · 31 May 2008, 08:57 AM

I did see all of the watches. I also agree that I think all of them are scams. There are three of the watches that have visible engravings on the backs of the watches, the certificates look like nothing I've ever seen, the one TT Submariner looks like three different pictures as well as an engraved back. I reported every single one of these watches.

Terry Newton

Rolex74 · 31 May 2008, 11:12 AM

Thanks Terry

Rolex74 · 31 May 2008, 11:38 AM

The guy emailed me back professing they are all real Rolexes, so I asked him to prove it and provide serial numbers and more photos, he says...

Dear rusty974,

they are at the jewelers now dont have that info right this second

- 777ethomas

What a scam, I can't wait for the other 3 to be axed here soon.

roadcarver · 31 May 2008, 12:07 PM

Those certificates looks like my Microsoft Office completion certificate

Rolex74 · 31 May 2008, 12:09 PM

He wrote me again, he said they are real Rolex watches, so again I asked him to prove it, give me serial numbers and more photos he replies..

Dear rusty974,

everything is there for the appraisal

- 777ethomas

mickeydainish · 31 May 2008, 01:53 PM

....... Terry says they are dodgy.... nuff said!!! :-)

Subjekt · 1 June 2008, 02:43 AM

Thank god I found this forum, yes I can say that I was emailing back and forth with these people and had my suspisions... Maybe it is best to just stick with my AD...?

Terry Newton · 1 June 2008, 06:35 AM

Three out of four are pulled and I am working on the fourth.

Terry Newton

Rolex74 · 1 June 2008, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

Three out of four are pulled and I am working on the fourth.

Terry Newton

All gone now

Rolex74 · 2 June 2008, 12:39 AM

He is back.......

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-1001-Oyste...QQcmdZViewItem

You have to love these statements in the auction....

"This watch is brand new never worn its perfect."

Then he says...

"please note that item will be shipped 5-7 days after auction ends as so it can be serviced and appraised by a local rolex jeweler."

Ok why are you having it serviced if it is new never worn???

HAHA he also says...

"Please note we were having trouble w/ a ebay member and hopefully the situation is being resolved!!!! THIS IS NOT A SCAM ITS A REAL WATCH!!!!" hmm does he mean me

Terry Newton · 2 June 2008, 01:22 AM

I reported it also. That is a funny one where it has to be serviced and appraised as a brand new watch. It smells like a dead fish.

Terry Newton

Rolex74 · 2 June 2008, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

I reported it also. That is a funny one where it has to be serviced and appraised as a brand new watch. It smells like a dead fish.

Terry Newton

Hey give him credit the shipping is free

"shipping will be free b/c we dont like to make money on shipping like some other members"

Rolex74 · 2 June 2008, 07:40 AM

He wrote me back, I told him to have it authenticated by a Rolex Dealer and I will believe him.

Harassing, hmm yeah I guess that is what you call it when you spot a fake and call them on it. Did you see him beggin at the end

Dear rusty974,

I have reported you for harrasment please leave us alone these are not fake and we are not out to scam anyone PLEASE

- 777ethomas

2careless · 2 June 2008, 07:45 AM

I don't think one should even email those guys. Just adjudicate on the presented photos, descriptions and make a decision if it's reportable or not.
Unless you really want to buy from them...

Rolex74 · 2 June 2008, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2careless

I don't think one should even email those guys. Just adjudicate on the presented photos, descriptions and make a decision if it's reportable or not.
Unless you really want to buy from them...

Well I email them to see what other info they can give me, serial number, model number more photos and I throw in the "lets go together and get it authenticated at a Authorized Rolex Dealer" line, I want to see what they say, believe it or not some sellers will be fine with everything, because it is a real Rolex, whereas scammers, like this guy, makes up excuses why they can't give anymore photos etc.

I would hate to report an auction for being fake when it was real, maybe they just take bad photos, or didn't write a good description.

Terry Newton · 2 June 2008, 07:49 AM

Three of this person's watches turned out to be fake, they had engravings on the casebacks, bogus looking certificates of authenticity, and lousy date magnification or pictures to verify authenticity, etc. All were pulled and he now lists the Daytona again. I believe it is also another scam and believe E-bay should stop them.

Terry Newton

Rolex74 · 2 June 2008, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

Three of this person's watches turned out to be fake, they had engravings on the casebacks, bogus looking certificates of authenticity, and lousy date magnification or pictures to verify authenticity, etc. All were pulled and he now lists the Daytona again. I believe it is also another scam and believe E-bay should stop them.

Terry Newton

Did you TerryNate it?

Terry Newton · 2 June 2008, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolex74

Did you TerryNate it?

It's in the works.

Terry Newton

Rolex74 · 2 June 2008, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

It's in the works.

Terry Newton

You know the guy thinks I am the one axing his auctions, haha thats ok I like it

Terry Newton · 2 June 2008, 10:43 AM

The Daytona has been pulled.

Terry Newton

Rolex74 · 2 June 2008, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

The Daytona has been pulled.

Terry Newton

Haha Sweet I bet he is cussing it up

Rolex74 · 3 June 2008, 04:32 PM

Check this out....

I was curious to see if he listed his fake Daytona again, he didn't but look at his other auctions...

This is one of them

http://cgi.ebay.com/APPLE-IPOD-MYSTE...QQcmdZViewItem

"THIS IS A MYSTERY AUCTION FOR AN APPLE IPOD. YOU ARE BIDDING ON AN ENVOLOPE THAT COULD HAVE THE WINNING TICKET IN IT OF AN APPLE IPOD BRAND NEW 32GB. OR YOU COULD WIN CASH."

What a scammer

Terry Newton · 3 June 2008, 09:57 PM

It's been pulled. You're right, this is a horrible scam and should not have been allowed to be listed by E-Bay. They may have caught it themselves.

Terry Newton

Rolex74 · 4 June 2008, 02:24 AM

I just reported all of his scam iPod auctions, how bad is that, bid on a envolope to win cash or an iPod, how much more set up can you make it

Z-Sub · 5 June 2008, 04:03 PM

Great Work Terry and Rolex74!

pwrslider · 5 June 2008, 05:31 PM

hmmm..I have alot of envelopes and boxes...maybe I can list the same type of mystery box thingy.....might even finance and new rolex purchase? WHAT AN IDIOT....then again...theres a sucker logging on every minute!!

Thanks Terry!!!

Rolex74 · 6 June 2008, 04:33 PM

Remember the iPod envelope scam well he has 2 listed, what a loser

http://cgi.ebay.com/APPLE-IPOD-MYSTE...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/APPLE-IPOD-MYSTE...QQcmdZViewItem

I think his others were removed

So lets all report these scams

I reported these

who is next

31 May 2008, 01:31 AM	#1
Rolex74 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Rob Location: Concordville, Pa Watch: DSSD DJII PAM 005 Posts: 1,677	Another Daytona Scam Here is another Daytona scam, I emailed him and asked if I could come see the watch so we could both take it to an AD to have it authenticated, here was his response.... Dear rusty974, I am sorry but no we will not travel 4 hours for that when if you feel theres a chance then dont bid but we have a baby to tend too and we are getting ready to move out of state soon thats why we are selling these things cause we are needing the money to move june 7th - 777ethomas I emailed back asking for the serial number...This is a scam and it stinks bad! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:X:RTQ:US:1123 I hope Terry sees this and reports it __________________ My Collection.... 2012 DSSD G Series 116660; 2013 SS DJII 116300 (Stolen), 2010 G Serial GMTiiC 116710, V Serial Milgauss White Dial 2005 H Series PAM 005, 2018 Speedy Pro

31 May 2008, 01:44 AM	#2
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	I dunno, that's a tough call. He's also got a DJ. Looking at his record, it' decent, but the largest item he's sold was a ring for $187. Strange that he wouldn't be willing to meet for inspection. That alone would make me not buy. I think people are foolish to pay thousands for a watch and not take a drive or spend a few hundred for a flight to properly inspect something. __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

31 May 2008, 05:33 AM	#3
Rolex74 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Rob Location: Concordville, Pa Watch: DSSD DJII PAM 005 Posts: 1,677	Yeah he still won't give me a serial number, I told him this auction looked to be a scam and he got upset, I told him it should be reported to ebay...his response Dear rusty974, look this is my auction and not a scam just read our feedback ratings no I do not want to take more photos for someone like you I have already contacted ebay about your threats and I will contact them again and give them all of what they want and more just not you. - 777ethomas Look at his feedback, while it was good it was for all these small ticket items, nothing large, now he has 4 Rolexes up for auction, take notice to the Sub, he refers to it as a datejust, so he seems to be clueless.... Look at the photo of the certificate, this is not Rolex and it is such a small photo... Question - Why would you have a TT Sub at a buy it now of $6,000, a TT DJ with a buy it now of $3,500 and a ladies TT DJ with a buy it now of $5,500 but start a DAYTONA at $1500, hmmmm I hope the TerryNator gets to see all of these auctions http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Mens-18K-S...QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Ladys-18k-...QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/Mens-18k-SS-ROLE...QQcmdZViewItem __________________ My Collection.... 2012 DSSD G Series 116660; 2013 SS DJII 116300 (Stolen), 2010 G Serial GMTiiC 116710, V Serial Milgauss White Dial 2005 H Series PAM 005, 2018 Speedy Pro

31 May 2008, 08:57 AM	#4
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	I did see all of the watches. I also agree that I think all of them are scams. There are three of the watches that have visible engravings on the backs of the watches, the certificates look like nothing I've ever seen, the one TT Submariner looks like three different pictures as well as an engraved back. I reported every single one of these watches. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

31 May 2008, 11:12 AM	#5
Rolex74 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Rob Location: Concordville, Pa Watch: DSSD DJII PAM 005 Posts: 1,677	Thanks Terry __________________ My Collection.... 2012 DSSD G Series 116660; 2013 SS DJII 116300 (Stolen), 2010 G Serial GMTiiC 116710, V Serial Milgauss White Dial 2005 H Series PAM 005, 2018 Speedy Pro

31 May 2008, 11:38 AM	#6
Rolex74 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Rob Location: Concordville, Pa Watch: DSSD DJII PAM 005 Posts: 1,677	The guy emailed me back professing they are all real Rolexes, so I asked him to prove it and provide serial numbers and more photos, he says... Dear rusty974, they are at the jewelers now dont have that info right this second - 777ethomas What a scam, I can't wait for the other 3 to be axed here soon. __________________ My Collection.... 2012 DSSD G Series 116660; 2013 SS DJII 116300 (Stolen), 2010 G Serial GMTiiC 116710, V Serial Milgauss White Dial 2005 H Series PAM 005, 2018 Speedy Pro

31 May 2008, 12:07 PM	#7
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	Those certificates looks like my Microsoft Office completion certificate __________________ I'm just a cook...

31 May 2008, 12:09 PM	#8
Rolex74 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Rob Location: Concordville, Pa Watch: DSSD DJII PAM 005 Posts: 1,677	He wrote me again, he said they are real Rolex watches, so again I asked him to prove it, give me serial numbers and more photos he replies.. Dear rusty974, everything is there for the appraisal - 777ethomas __________________ My Collection.... 2012 DSSD G Series 116660; 2013 SS DJII 116300 (Stolen), 2010 G Serial GMTiiC 116710, V Serial Milgauss White Dial 2005 H Series PAM 005, 2018 Speedy Pro

31 May 2008, 01:53 PM	#9
mickeydainish Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Michael Location: LaLa Land Watch: Sub Date 16610 Posts: 1,757	....... Terry says they are dodgy.... nuff said!!! :-)

1 June 2008, 02:43 AM	#10
Subjekt "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Bill Location: Edmonton Watch: IWC/Panerai Posts: 14	Thank god I found this forum, yes I can say that I was emailing back and forth with these people and had my suspisions... Maybe it is best to just stick with my AD...?

1 June 2008, 06:35 AM	#11
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	Three out of four are pulled and I am working on the fourth. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

2 June 2008, 12:39 AM	#13
Rolex74 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Rob Location: Concordville, Pa Watch: DSSD DJII PAM 005 Posts: 1,677	He is back....... http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-1001-Oyste...QQcmdZViewItem You have to love these statements in the auction.... "This watch is brand new never worn its perfect." Then he says... "please note that item will be shipped 5-7 days after auction ends as so it can be serviced and appraised by a local rolex jeweler." Ok why are you having it serviced if it is new never worn??? HAHA he also says... "Please note we were having trouble w/ a ebay member and hopefully the situation is being resolved!!!! THIS IS NOT A SCAM ITS A REAL WATCH!!!!" hmm does he mean me __________________ My Collection.... 2012 DSSD G Series 116660; 2013 SS DJII 116300 (Stolen), 2010 G Serial GMTiiC 116710, V Serial Milgauss White Dial 2005 H Series PAM 005, 2018 Speedy Pro

2 June 2008, 01:22 AM	#14
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	I reported it also. That is a funny one where it has to be serviced and appraised as a brand new watch. It smells like a dead fish. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

2 June 2008, 07:40 AM	#16
Rolex74 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Rob Location: Concordville, Pa Watch: DSSD DJII PAM 005 Posts: 1,677	He wrote me back, I told him to have it authenticated by a Rolex Dealer and I will believe him. Harassing, hmm yeah I guess that is what you call it when you spot a fake and call them on it. Did you see him beggin at the end Dear rusty974, I have reported you for harrasment please leave us alone these are not fake and we are not out to scam anyone PLEASE - 777ethomas __________________ My Collection.... 2012 DSSD G Series 116660; 2013 SS DJII 116300 (Stolen), 2010 G Serial GMTiiC 116710, V Serial Milgauss White Dial 2005 H Series PAM 005, 2018 Speedy Pro

2 June 2008, 07:45 AM	#17
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,369	I don't think one should even email those guys. Just adjudicate on the presented photos, descriptions and make a decision if it's reportable or not. Unless you really want to buy from them...

2 June 2008, 07:49 AM	#19
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	Three of this person's watches turned out to be fake, they had engravings on the casebacks, bogus looking certificates of authenticity, and lousy date magnification or pictures to verify authenticity, etc. All were pulled and he now lists the Daytona again. I believe it is also another scam and believe E-bay should stop them. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

2 June 2008, 10:43 AM	#23
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	The Daytona has been pulled. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

3 June 2008, 04:32 PM	#25
Rolex74 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Rob Location: Concordville, Pa Watch: DSSD DJII PAM 005 Posts: 1,677	Check this out.... I was curious to see if he listed his fake Daytona again, he didn't but look at his other auctions... This is one of them http://cgi.ebay.com/APPLE-IPOD-MYSTE...QQcmdZViewItem "THIS IS A MYSTERY AUCTION FOR AN APPLE IPOD. YOU ARE BIDDING ON AN ENVOLOPE THAT COULD HAVE THE WINNING TICKET IN IT OF AN APPLE IPOD BRAND NEW 32GB. OR YOU COULD WIN CASH." What a scammer __________________ My Collection.... 2012 DSSD G Series 116660; 2013 SS DJII 116300 (Stolen), 2010 G Serial GMTiiC 116710, V Serial Milgauss White Dial 2005 H Series PAM 005, 2018 Speedy Pro

3 June 2008, 09:57 PM	#26
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	It's been pulled. You're right, this is a horrible scam and should not have been allowed to be listed by E-Bay. They may have caught it themselves. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

4 June 2008, 02:24 AM	#27
Rolex74 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Rob Location: Concordville, Pa Watch: DSSD DJII PAM 005 Posts: 1,677	I just reported all of his scam iPod auctions, how bad is that, bid on a envolope to win cash or an iPod, how much more set up can you make it __________________ My Collection.... 2012 DSSD G Series 116660; 2013 SS DJII 116300 (Stolen), 2010 G Serial GMTiiC 116710, V Serial Milgauss White Dial 2005 H Series PAM 005, 2018 Speedy Pro

5 June 2008, 04:03 PM	#28
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	Great Work Terry and Rolex74! __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

5 June 2008, 05:31 PM	#29
pwrslider "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Steve Location: SF BAY AREA CA Watch: 16710 Coke Posts: 3,047	hmmm..I have alot of envelopes and boxes...maybe I can list the same type of mystery box thingy.....might even finance and new rolex purchase? WHAT AN IDIOT....then again...theres a sucker logging on every minute!! Thanks Terry!!! __________________ Rolex Blue TT Submariner (95) Rolex SS GMT IIc (08) Rolex GMT II 16710 COKE (08 for me..) Rolex Explorer II Blk (91) Breitling SuperOcean Steelfish (07) Panerai 104 & 177ti ( 04/03)

6 June 2008, 04:33 PM	#30
Rolex74 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Rob Location: Concordville, Pa Watch: DSSD DJII PAM 005 Posts: 1,677	Remember the iPod envelope scam well he has 2 listed, what a loser http://cgi.ebay.com/APPLE-IPOD-MYSTE...QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/APPLE-IPOD-MYSTE...QQcmdZViewItem I think his others were removed So lets all report these scams I reported these who is next __________________ My Collection.... 2012 DSSD G Series 116660; 2013 SS DJII 116300 (Stolen), 2010 G Serial GMTiiC 116710, V Serial Milgauss White Dial 2005 H Series PAM 005, 2018 Speedy Pro

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