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Old 17 November 2020, 05:51 AM   #31
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Good point. I probably should have said I'm not aware of a 70hr PR clone movement for the DJ. Definitely doesn't mean one isn't in use. I don't know of OPs level of comfort with verifying authenticity, so a trip to a dealer may be in order. I've personally never seen a copy I needed to open up to determine accuracy. There hasn't been a copy that got everything correct when inspected at 10x. Obviously one could come out tomorrow, but so many things would have to be resolved compared to the real thing.
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Old 17 November 2020, 06:09 AM   #32
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I will take it to an AD tomorrow. Pretty sure it's a replica or whatever you want to call it, because the LEC looks different & less precise (when you enlarge the photo). The blocked winding is absolutely problematic.
Am I allowed to say which dealer sold it to me? I have a feeling that if this is indeed inauthentic, they might not even have noticed, but I might be wrong about that.
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Old 17 November 2020, 06:55 AM   #33
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Old 17 November 2020, 07:02 AM   #34
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I will take it to an AD tomorrow. Pretty sure it's a replica or whatever you want to call it, because the LEC looks different & less precise (when you enlarge the photo). The blocked winding is absolutely problematic.

Am I allowed to say which dealer sold it to me? I have a feeling that if this is indeed inauthentic, they might not even have noticed, but I might be wrong about that.
Oh man, I feel for you. I really do. Did you buy it here from one of the sellers?

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Old 17 November 2020, 07:24 AM   #35
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Just upload some pictures, it's quite easy to tell.
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Old 17 November 2020, 07:25 AM   #36
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I don't think there's any fakes out there with a 70 hour power reserve currently.

Chinese have created a 4130 clone with same power reserve.
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Old 17 November 2020, 07:31 AM   #37
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Chinese have created a 4130 clone with same power reserve.
Very interesting, thanks for that information! It's something I'll keep an eye on.
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Old 17 November 2020, 07:34 AM   #38
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I would really like to upload thsi pic, but can's seem to find "advanced"
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Old 17 November 2020, 07:46 AM   #39
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Yeah I think it's definitely blocked. Gosh.
... As to pics, when I hit the little icon for photos a window asks me for an URL of the image. The pic is on my computer.
Do you have access to tapatalk by phone? That's the easiest way to upload photos!!!
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Old 17 November 2020, 07:49 AM   #40
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...trying to upload this pic, looks very small on my screen...
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Old 17 November 2020, 07:52 AM   #41
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Hit "Go Advance"
Click "Paper Clip + arrow down"
Select pic.
Choose file
Upload

May need to reduce picture size to about 800x600
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Old 17 November 2020, 07:59 AM   #42
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I posted the pic. Had to convert it to a pdf, it wouldn't take the jpg. Maybe it's because i'm on a mac.
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Old 17 November 2020, 08:21 AM   #43
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Here's something you can try now...

Find the serial number on the rehaut down by 6 o'clock. Put the serial number inside "" quotes and Google search. You don't want a bunch of hits. ;)
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Old 17 November 2020, 08:25 AM   #44
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Googled the ser#.
No hits there...
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Old 17 November 2020, 08:25 AM   #45
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I posted the pic. Had to convert it to a pdf, it wouldn't take the jpg. Maybe it's because i'm on a mac.

The LEC is supposed to be nearly invisible (especially on a silver dial) this picture shows it pretty clearly... as if someone would like to advertise it!!!

Not a good sign...
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Old 17 November 2020, 08:27 AM   #46
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But the winding? WTF@@@
Already working on my cancellation of purchase agreement...
The above pic of the LEC looks half way ok but that's probably because it's small.
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Old 17 November 2020, 08:28 AM   #47
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It was actually very hard to get it to show up.
First when I looked i couldn't find it.
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Old 17 November 2020, 08:46 AM   #48
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Googled the ser#.
No hits there...
Okay that's at least a start.

Now you need to get on your smartphone, search for and download 'Tapatalk' app to your phone. It's an easy interface for some forums software and many use it here on TRF. This is the easiest option for posting pics, per many here on TRF, for the expert eyes here to see.
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Old 17 November 2020, 09:24 AM   #49
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Okay. I installed it. I take it I can now post better pics. I'm in Europe atm (until after Christmas. This DJ was to be a present...) and it's the middle of the night. How do I find this thread on my phone TTalk?
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Old 17 November 2020, 09:27 AM   #50
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Old 17 November 2020, 09:31 AM   #51
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There's nothing precise about that LEC! Ouch.
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Old 17 November 2020, 09:34 AM   #52
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Good, you've got it. Now post some well focused pics of the watch head, dial, clasp, etc. and let TRF experts weigh in with their opinions.
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Old 17 November 2020, 09:34 AM   #53
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Yeah. I realized that also with the magnification. Impossible to see with a weak loupe. Too late, obviously.
Unbelievable that this dealer (They are no.1 in online watch retail in this country) sold it to me. I wonder if the paperwork is therefore also inauthentic.
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Old 17 November 2020, 09:53 AM   #54
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Looks like someone used a hammer and chisel on that LEC. Maybe just a lame pic but doesn’t look pretty and precise my others.
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Old 17 November 2020, 10:20 AM   #55
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Old 17 November 2020, 10:28 AM   #56
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Yeah. I realized that also with the magnification. Impossible to see with a weak loupe. Too late, obviously.
Unbelievable that this dealer (They are no.1 in online watch retail in this country) sold it to me. I wonder if the paperwork is therefore also inauthentic.
Need more images of the watch to help!
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Old 17 November 2020, 10:31 AM   #57
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The text on that dial looks fishy as well TBH. Hope you can resolve this to your satisfaction.
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Old 17 November 2020, 10:57 AM   #58
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You can't really capture the LEC that well with a smart phone.
You need a dslr with a macro lens.

For example:


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Old 17 November 2020, 04:39 PM   #59
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OP You need to post more pictures of the actual watch, not the LEC.
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Old 17 November 2020, 07:22 PM   #60
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You can't really capture the LEC that well with a smart phone.
You need a dslr with a macro lens.

For example:


Is that the same watch?!
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