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Leon75 · 17 August 2020, 08:03 AM

Looking to buy a new watch and was hoping for some feedback.

Have been looking at these watches. I am planning it to wear when dressed casually.

Which one would you choose? And why?

Patek Philippe AC 5396R-001
Patek Philippe AC 5396G-013
Patek Philippe weekly calender 5212A
F.P. Journe Chronometre Souverain Havana

igibliss · 17 August 2020, 08:26 AM

Havana

Jay (Eire) · 17 August 2020, 08:58 AM

The Journe is the better looking and designed watch. It will be better finished too.

BUT, the others offer something else (calendar, moonphase etc) and so apples and oranges really.

scarlet knight · 17 August 2020, 09:13 AM

I say Journe Havana and I’m a Patek owner.

Russell996 · 17 August 2020, 09:16 AM

Havana is my least favourite, the colour does nothing for me. I would and did choose the 5212A but definitely on a different strap.

kunlun · 17 August 2020, 09:20 AM

Havana hands down, for the reasons Jay mentioned. Remember a moonphase (automatique lune) edition also exists.

mickyd329 · 17 August 2020, 10:38 AM

I would go Journe.

Ichiran · 17 August 2020, 10:55 AM

5212a.

BendyBee · 17 August 2020, 11:35 AM

Between these, Havana.

martinr · 17 August 2020, 11:56 AM

Which one is your choice? I’d go for the first one. RG annual calendar sector dial.

huydoan · 17 August 2020, 12:04 PM

5212a

daytonaTBR · 17 August 2020, 01:34 PM

Havana CS by far

ap1 · 17 August 2020, 01:43 PM

12a

ts3 · 17 August 2020, 04:41 PM

Havana! I don't like any of the Patek ACs nor the weekly calendar.

malarky_hk · 17 August 2020, 04:43 PM

I vote the Journe.

MCMartiny · 17 August 2020, 06:07 PM

5212A - it is the most casual of the bunch, and - although complex - the dial face is more balanced than the Journe.

DoraTheExplorerII · 17 August 2020, 06:36 PM

A thought I had today about the 5212: what if they colored white the day and month hands but left the red tips since some people complain about how busy the face was with five hands? Would this look weird?

JCC296 · 20 August 2020, 05:10 PM

Havana..
and when you flip the watch over, it's even easier to pick the winner. FPJ movement is much prettier.

jenniferjanef · 20 August 2020, 06:51 PM

Another vote for Havana

sgfortino · 20 August 2020, 10:06 PM

FPJ for sure.

JayHantz · 20 August 2020, 11:25 PM

Another vote for the Havana. Such an amazing piece.

sgwatchguy · 20 August 2020, 11:37 PM

Havana ftw

enjoythemusic · 21 August 2020, 01:13 AM

Easy chocie with the Journe Havana, and i've had about 10 Pateks over the years. We all know FPJ is 'next level excellence'.

Skyrider01 · 21 August 2020, 03:15 AM

Another vote for the Havana. Pictures don't do it justice!

golfinz · 21 August 2020, 03:52 AM

Havana. Close thread!

rfs · 22 August 2020, 04:51 AM

Havana

Edwardkua · 4 October 2020, 10:03 PM

I have both Havana and PP5212 Weekly Calendar and they are both great watches. Try PP5212 on a vintage strap and is versatile for all occasions. : )

WatchEater666 · 4 October 2020, 10:40 PM

PP weekly calendar.

GolfJunkie · 5 October 2020, 12:33 AM

I like both the 5396 and the FPJ.

Think I’d choose the FPJ though. The dial is just so cool.

scarlet knight · 5 October 2020, 12:46 AM

Havana. I’ve tried it on, looks great. Had other financial commitments at the time, did not pull trigger.

I am a Patek owner and admirer, but the Havana is really attractive.

17 August 2020, 10:38 AM	#7
mickyd329 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Socal Watch: AP/PP/Rolex Posts: 1,779	I would go Journe. __________________ PP 5205G-013/ PP 5212A / AP 15416CE /26574 st QP/ AP 50th 16202st /AP 15500st Black / AP 26405CE / AP 77350CE / AP 15551st / AP 67540sk /Daytona C White/Rolex SS BLRO / Rolex Sub Green / Rolex Explorer II/ Rolex DJ Blue

20 August 2020, 05:10 PM	#18
JCC296 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: California Posts: 839	Havana.. and when you flip the watch over, it's even easier to pick the winner. FPJ movement is much prettier. Last edited by JCC296; 20 August 2020 at 05:15 PM.. Reason: added more comment

20 August 2020, 11:37 PM	#22
sgwatchguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Real Name: KP Jimmy Location: Singapore Watch: R/AP/FPJ/Hermès/et Posts: 6,597	Havana ftw __________________

21 August 2020, 01:13 AM	#23
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,439	Easy chocie with the Journe Havana, and i've had about 10 Pateks over the years. We all know FPJ is 'next level excellence'. __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

17 August 2020, 08:26 AM	#2
igibliss "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 101	Havana

17 August 2020, 08:58 AM	#3
Jay (Eire) 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: @jb.watching Location: NYC Posts: 1,469	The Journe is the better looking and designed watch. It will be better finished too. BUT, the others offer something else (calendar, moonphase etc) and so apples and oranges really.

17 August 2020, 09:13 AM	#4
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,146	I say Journe Havana and I’m a Patek owner.

17 August 2020, 09:16 AM	#5
Russell996 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: UK Posts: 4,180	Havana is my least favourite, the colour does nothing for me. I would and did choose the 5212A but definitely on a different strap.

17 August 2020, 09:20 AM	#6
kunlun "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,897	Havana hands down, for the reasons Jay mentioned. Remember a moonphase (automatique lune) edition also exists.

17 August 2020, 10:55 AM	#8
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,622	5212a.

17 August 2020, 11:35 AM	#9
BendyBee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Bangkok Posts: 204	Between these, Havana.

17 August 2020, 11:56 AM	#10
martinr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: California Posts: 3,099	Which one is your choice? I’d go for the first one. RG annual calendar sector dial.

17 August 2020, 12:04 PM	#11
huydoan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: mike Location: sydney Watch: pp and only pp Posts: 257	5212a

17 August 2020, 01:34 PM	#12
daytonaTBR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: N/A Posts: 1,466	Havana CS by far

17 August 2020, 01:43 PM	#13
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,041	12a

17 August 2020, 04:41 PM	#14
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,236	Havana! I don't like any of the Patek ACs nor the weekly calendar.

17 August 2020, 04:43 PM	#15
malarky_hk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ... Watch: Rolex Posts: 4,466	I vote the Journe.

17 August 2020, 06:07 PM	#16
MCMartiny "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Somewhere in time Watch: Lange & Patek Posts: 612	5212A - it is the most casual of the bunch, and - although complex - the dial face is more balanced than the Journe.

17 August 2020, 06:36 PM	#17
DoraTheExplorerII "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: N/A Posts: 441	A thought I had today about the 5212: what if they colored white the day and month hands but left the red tips since some people complain about how busy the face was with five hands? Would this look weird?

20 August 2020, 06:51 PM	#19
jenniferjanef "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,823	Another vote for Havana

20 August 2020, 10:06 PM	#20
sgfortino "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Chicago Watch: Nerd Posts: 807	FPJ for sure.

20 August 2020, 11:25 PM	#21
JayHantz 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Texas Watch: @Escapementt Posts: 9,842	Another vote for the Havana. Such an amazing piece.

21 August 2020, 03:15 AM	#24
Skyrider01 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Florida/Canada Posts: 1,278	Another vote for the Havana. Pictures don't do it justice!

21 August 2020, 03:52 AM	#25
golfinz "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: USA Posts: 54	Havana. Close thread!

22 August 2020, 04:51 AM	#26
rfs "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: USA Posts: 2,278	Havana

4 October 2020, 10:03 PM	#27
Edwardkua "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1	I have both Havana and PP5212 Weekly Calendar and they are both great watches. Try PP5212 on a vintage strap and is versatile for all occasions. : )

4 October 2020, 10:40 PM	#28
WatchEater666 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 1,653	PP weekly calendar.

5 October 2020, 12:33 AM	#29
GolfJunkie 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Eric Location: USA Watch: 252 Posts: 4,832	I like both the 5396 and the FPJ. Think I’d choose the FPJ though. The dial is just so cool.

5 October 2020, 12:46 AM	#30
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,146	Havana. I’ve tried it on, looks great. Had other financial commitments at the time, did not pull trigger. I am a Patek owner and admirer, but the Havana is really attractive.

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