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nizzer · 8 August 2018, 03:31 PM

Have potential to buy this 18238 from a Japanese auction site that is otherwise well regarded. I believe that the bezel is aftermarket (I can live with, and replace this), however I'm also concerned also about:

The dial - as I've never seen anyone like it - those particular surrounds on the diamonds are present in other 18238 dials (e.g. this photo), but they then typically have a roman track and no tritium markers - I cannot find another 18238 with this particular layout.
The date wheel appears to have serifs - I'm not sure if this is typical for the 18238, and the word Wednesday covers more of the window than I've typically seen.
The 9 o'clock diamond does not appear to be 100% aligned to the tritium marker, but this may be the photo. Also the coronet looks wonky, but again may be the photo.

However, the case and the bracelet look ok to me, but I'm not an expert on DDs.

Pics here.

jvmartin · 8 August 2018, 04:37 PM

Dial is 100% aftermarket and it appears that the rest of the watch is fake as well, at very least the bracelet... pass for sure

GoingPlaces · 8 August 2018, 07:01 PM

Looks wrong to me. You should definitely pass.

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crowncollection · 8 August 2018, 08:27 PM

Fake dial , bezel. Band is fake. Case also looks fake to me sorry

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nizzer · 9 August 2018, 11:50 AM

Thanks all - have informed the site that I will be passing on this.

GLADIATOR · 9 August 2018, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crowncollection

Fake dial , bezel. Band is fake. Case also looks fake to me sorry

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I 100% agree
Something incorrect case marking.
Bezel and Dial surely not Rolex
A

nizzer · 9 August 2018, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

I 100% agree
Something incorrect case marking.
Bezel and Dial surely not Rolex
A

Can you expand on your point about incorrect case marking?

jvmartin · 9 August 2018, 04:23 PM

People typically don't get too specific in order not to tip off scammers... but I concur... markings are wrong and case lugs are too thick and oddly shaped... watch is for sure a fake...

8 August 2018, 03:31 PM	#1
nizzer "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Sydney Posts: 13	18238 DD check Have potential to buy this 18238 from a Japanese auction site that is otherwise well regarded. I believe that the bezel is aftermarket (I can live with, and replace this), however I'm also concerned also about: The dial - as I've never seen anyone like it - those particular surrounds on the diamonds are present in other 18238 dials (e.g. this photo), but they then typically have a roman track and no tritium markers - I cannot find another 18238 with this particular layout. The date wheel appears to have serifs - I'm not sure if this is typical for the 18238, and the word Wednesday covers more of the window than I've typically seen. The 9 o'clock diamond does not appear to be 100% aligned to the tritium marker, but this may be the photo. Also the coronet looks wonky, but again may be the photo. However, the case and the bracelet look ok to me, but I'm not an expert on DDs. Pics here.

8 August 2018, 08:27 PM	#4
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	Fake dial , bezel. Band is fake. Case also looks fake to me sorry Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

8 August 2018, 04:37 PM	#2
jvmartin "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,349	Dial is 100% aftermarket and it appears that the rest of the watch is fake as well, at very least the bracelet... pass for sure

8 August 2018, 07:01 PM	#3
GoingPlaces "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 5,341	Looks wrong to me. You should definitely pass. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 August 2018, 11:50 AM	#5
nizzer "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Sydney Posts: 13	Thanks all - have informed the site that I will be passing on this.

9 August 2018, 04:23 PM	#8
jvmartin "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,349	People typically don't get too specific in order not to tip off scammers... but I concur... markings are wrong and case lugs are too thick and oddly shaped... watch is for sure a fake...

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