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Old 9 December 2019, 12:05 PM   #1
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look at this 5167

found this on fb
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Old 9 December 2019, 12:11 PM   #2
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now with movement
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Old 9 December 2019, 12:22 PM   #3
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Looks fake to me


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Old 9 December 2019, 12:43 PM   #4
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Send it back to fb.
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Old 9 December 2019, 01:22 PM   #5
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Not sure what your point is


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Old 9 December 2019, 01:33 PM   #6
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Hi-end fake. Make me look at mine to compare with it.
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Old 9 December 2019, 03:14 PM   #7
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In before the crushing lock.
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Old 9 December 2019, 03:27 PM   #8
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I am not convinced it's fake....what are the clues
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Old 9 December 2019, 03:58 PM   #9
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Yep a quick compare of the movement side gives it away.
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Old 9 December 2019, 04:02 PM   #10
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Evan at a casual glance the quality is not there.

As for close inspection?
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Old 9 December 2019, 04:03 PM   #11
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Those are great of practice wrist awareness before buying a real one...........

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Old 9 December 2019, 06:31 PM   #12
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The good 5167 fakes are scary close to the real one. Case thickness gives it away. But I’ve studied one next to my real one and it is shockingly close. Makes it critical to only buy from trusted sources and have an AD confirm authentic. A fairly Davy watch buyer new to Patek could be fooled.
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Old 9 December 2019, 07:35 PM   #13
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Geez, pretty good fake!
There are some tells, but it took me a second look over for sure.
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Old 9 December 2019, 08:32 PM   #14
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A genuine movement

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Old 9 December 2019, 08:49 PM   #15
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The watch has been polished for sure but I am a sucker...I cant see the difference...especially on movement. Never seen a replica (never mind fake) when when even the geneva stripes are perfectly aligned and had perlage
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Old 9 December 2019, 09:33 PM   #16
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The bridge for the regulator is the most immediate thing that's different.

Fakes (replicas etc) are so good these days that unless you have the genuine article to compare, most would never spot one.
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Old 9 December 2019, 10:11 PM   #17
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Looks pretty clean to me... the replicas I’ve seen the movement looks like ass and the dial also looks like ass as well as the polish

Edit: Didn’t see the last post

I can’t tell stil
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Old 10 December 2019, 12:40 AM   #18
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There are many but not quite evident

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I am not convinced it's fake....what are the clues
The movement : much lower quality of finish, look at two levers on balance cock, jewels, just for start

The dial is not correct, compare with pic of original

The strap has bad pattern

but yet, from some feet away it could be said that what defines if was genuine or not is more like the owner than the watch, if you understand my point..

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Old 10 December 2019, 02:36 AM   #19
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Old 10 December 2019, 02:51 AM   #20
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The obvious thing is the date is too big. I wish mine had a date that big. Maybe I'll trade mine for that fake. lol

Also, I believe cote de geneve (stripes) on back are stamped, not hand abraded. But that is a very good fake. It will fool many people.
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Old 10 December 2019, 05:16 AM   #21
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No markings underneath the lugs, junk as said above.
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Old 10 December 2019, 05:33 AM   #22
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No markings underneath the lugs, junk as said above.
Yep, obvious junk.

Just to clarify though: The 5167 is stainless steel. As such, there are no PM hallmarks on the underside of the lugs.

The pic above that nda posted is of a 5168 (white gold), thus the purity/hallmarks.
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Old 10 December 2019, 05:42 AM   #23
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Yep, obvious junk.

Just to clarify though: The 5167 is stainless steel. As such, there are no PM hallmarks on the underside of the lugs.

The pic above that nda posted is of a 5168 (white gold), thus the purity/hallmarks.
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Old 10 December 2019, 06:41 AM   #24
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Another obvious sign - the globe pattern in the background extends past the 5 and the 7. It should not.


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Old 10 December 2019, 07:46 AM   #25
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Clasp looks like shit....
Movement is in no way shape or form a PP... obvious signs....
Date font is a tad thick....
Dial looks shoddy...


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