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patek.wis · 6 September 2012, 10:23 AM

Why does OP not make an auto version of the PAM000, manual is a PIA IMHO, I never know if its the right time or if I forgot to wind in time, etc. I essentially need to 'double check' the time...

Anyone else feel the same? I love the watch but am afraid ill flip because of this...

Think OP will do an auto version, or will it be insanely thick (IE PAM312)?

I mean... the reason why I bought a winder is so I dont have to do this :(

kilyung · 6 September 2012, 11:34 AM

I enjoy manual winds... there's a deeper connection for me. I just top it off every morning no problems.

HDHNTER · 6 September 2012, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

I enjoy manual winds... there's a deeper connection for me. I just top it off every morning no problems.

Same for me.

nick c · 6 September 2012, 11:41 AM

Same here it's no big deal

Andrés G · 6 September 2012, 11:42 AM

Not an issue for me. I love winding my 112 and prefer a manual wind PAM.

gregvisser · 6 September 2012, 12:03 PM

I think the OP makes a good point though. Folks can get busy/distracted and forget to wind. You then have to do a double check to make sure the time is right.

I'd flip the zero and get the 111. That will solve your problem...

Greg

red1108nyc · 6 September 2012, 12:16 PM

No issues. Wind it up and take her out and enjoy.. no bothers.

agreenspan · 6 September 2012, 12:29 PM

Actually, the PAM 111 is manual wind also.

bottom of the ninth · 6 September 2012, 12:33 PM

I love my 111 and getting to wind it for me is the best part of owning it!

wokafu · 6 September 2012, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patek.wis

Why does OP not make an auto version of the PAM000, manual is a PIA IMHO, I never know if its the right time or if I forgot to wind in time, etc. I essentially need to 'double check' the time...

Anyone else feel the same? I love the watch but am afraid ill flip because of this...

Think OP will do an auto version, or will it be insanely thick (IE PAM312)?

I mean... the reason why I bought a winder is so I dont have to do this :(

i had the exact same feeling....it happened to me a few times...but i accept the fact that its actually 'seeking for my attention'

still love it and wont flip

htc8p · 6 September 2012, 01:34 PM

manual wind is part of panerai dna.

its the only manual wind i would like to have.

dddrees · 6 September 2012, 01:51 PM

Since I rotate watches and I don't use watchwinders it don't really matter.

Winding and setting a watch is a part of my early morning routine, and a very enjoyable part of my daily routine to boot.

mrarchiegoodwin · 6 September 2012, 02:45 PM

i have been wearing automatic watches for the past 10 years and have been winding them every morning. Similar to others it is part of the daily routine of preparation for the cruel harsh world outside.

Watchcraze007 · 6 September 2012, 05:01 PM

Agree with all the winders here!

esm · 6 September 2012, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patek.wis

Why does OP not make an auto version of the PAM000, manual is a PIA IMHO, I never know if its the right time or if I forgot to wind in time, etc. I essentially need to 'double check' the time...

Anyone else feel the same? I love the watch but am afraid ill flip because of this...

Think OP will do an auto version, or will it be insanely thick (IE PAM312)?

I mean... the reason why I bought a winder is so I dont have to do this :(

Surely you bought a 000 purely because of its DNA/tradition/history?

Cru Jones · 6 September 2012, 07:18 PM

an automatic no-date two-hand watch?

Travelller · 6 September 2012, 09:33 PM

Like [almost] everyone else, I'm a hand-wound guy. My automatic Mühle is the first to stop as it only has a 48hr reserve (and I don't own a winder) and my 233 never stops because I wind it every Sunday evening...

mfer · 6 September 2012, 11:01 PM

Sorry to say, but it doesn't sound like the historic line is for you.

Manual winds are part of simple Panerai's.

servin34 · 6 September 2012, 11:05 PM

It is a matter of habit winding your PAM000 on a daily basis. You will enjoy it even more

Awesome Jim · 7 September 2012, 02:52 AM

Will, I can almost promise you that if you keep the 000 for awhile, you actually start looking forward to winding it and well might start doing it a few times a day, not because you have to but because you want to. Once you get into it, it's actually quite a "feel good" thing.
In a way, it's almost like having a standard and being able to interact with your toy on a deeper level. J

p_mcgee · 7 September 2012, 03:05 AM

Winding doesn't bother me, either, but if its not working for you maybe go with a 104. Similar size & luminor case. I'd skip the 312, tried it on about 8 times now but still too blocky for me.

patek.wis · 7 September 2012, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Awesome Jim

Will, I can almost promise you that if you keep the 000 for awhile, you actually start looking forward to winding it and well might start doing it a few times a day, not because you have to but because you want to. Once you get into it, it's actually quite a "feel good" thing.
In a way, it's almost like having a standard and being able to interact with your toy on a deeper level. J

Maybe ill keep it for a while longer and see if i change my mind, thanks guys

Aventura · 7 September 2012, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregvisser

I think the OP makes a good point though. Folks can get busy/distracted and forget to wind. You then have to do a double check to make sure the time is right.

I'd flip the zero and get the 111. That will solve your problem...

Greg

What is the difference? both are manual winds.

asmfa5 · 7 September 2012, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aventura

What is the difference? both are manual winds.

I think his suggestion on the 111 is because the second hand on the 111 is easier to check if its working.

andrew79 · 7 September 2012, 11:25 AM

When it comes to Panerai, IMO I really think it should be manual since it is their DNA... as for me, I am not really digging automatic movement in Panerai...

gregvisser · 7 September 2012, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asmfa5

I think his suggestion on the 111 is because the second hand on the 111 is easier to check if its working.

Spot on.

Just saves you from listening to it or checking it twice. I am aware they have the same PR.

Or... move the zero on and get an 8 day. I can not tell you how practical it is and how well it works. I would take an 8 day over an auto any day.

Greg

Mrlion · 7 September 2012, 12:23 PM

i have plenty of automatics and only my pam000, 233, moonwatch, are manual winds. I absolutely love manual winding them and it gives me great satisfaction doing so. i do not however, like winding my automatics.

brid · 14 September 2012, 09:14 PM

Agree, winding is part of the appeal, in the same way people buy manual cars over automatics. Deeper connection I think.

Psmith · 14 September 2012, 09:30 PM

Funny, but Panerai turns my usual preference upside-down...

Manual wind, no date, no minute markers, etc...

These days, I see Panerai as a simple, relaxed and refreshing break from other watches... the horological equivalent of a quiet weekend in the country (?!?)

jenniferjanef · 15 September 2012, 03:30 AM

"winding" a 372 is totally different experience from winding a 000. One have to try it to understand what I mean. If you no like winding, don't pass on the 372. You might think differently after you give it a try.

Cheers!

James.

6 September 2012, 10:23 AM	#1
patek.wis "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Will Location: Canada Watch: The Sky Posts: 1,824	PAM 000 Question - Why....? Why does OP not make an auto version of the PAM000, manual is a PIA IMHO, I never know if its the right time or if I forgot to wind in time, etc. I essentially need to 'double check' the time... Anyone else feel the same? I love the watch but am afraid ill flip because of this... Think OP will do an auto version, or will it be insanely thick (IE PAM312)? I mean... the reason why I bought a winder is so I dont have to do this :(

6 September 2012, 12:33 PM	#9
bottom of the ninth "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Trent Location: Good old IOWA Watch: Daytona Black Posts: 1,255	I love my 111 and getting to wind it for me is the best part of owning it! __________________ "Baseball? It's just a game-as simple as a ball and bat. Yet, as complex as the American spirit it symbolizes. It's a sport, business- and sometimes even religion." Ernie Harwell

6 September 2012, 01:51 PM	#12
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,251	Since I rotate watches and I don't use watchwinders it don't really matter. Winding and setting a watch is a part of my early morning routine, and a very enjoyable part of my daily routine to boot. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

6 September 2012, 11:01 PM	#18
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,723	Sorry to say, but it doesn't sound like the historic line is for you. Manual winds are part of simple Panerai's. __________________ member#3242

7 September 2012, 11:25 AM	#25
andrew79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Andrew Location: Indonesia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,277	When it comes to Panerai, IMO I really think it should be manual since it is their DNA... as for me, I am not really digging automatic movement in Panerai... __________________ Baume & Mercier Riviera Rolex GMT II c, DJ 116234, Sub 16610, EXP 2 16570 Panerai 111 , 232

6 September 2012, 11:34 AM	#2
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,870	I enjoy manual winds... there's a deeper connection for me. I just top it off every morning no problems.

6 September 2012, 11:41 AM	#4
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Same here it's no big deal

6 September 2012, 11:42 AM	#5
Andrés G "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Guatemala Posts: 3,391	Not an issue for me. I love winding my 112 and prefer a manual wind PAM.

6 September 2012, 12:03 PM	#6
gregvisser "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Greg Visser Location: New Zealand Posts: 543	I think the OP makes a good point though. Folks can get busy/distracted and forget to wind. You then have to do a double check to make sure the time is right. I'd flip the zero and get the 111. That will solve your problem... Greg

6 September 2012, 12:16 PM	#7
red1108nyc 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Fred Location: NYC/NJ Metro Area Watch: Rolex Posts: 8,500	No issues. Wind it up and take her out and enjoy.. no bothers.

6 September 2012, 12:29 PM	#8
agreenspan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: MA Posts: 56	Actually, the PAM 111 is manual wind also.

6 September 2012, 01:34 PM	#11
htc8p "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Bert Location: philippines Watch: 116710 ln Posts: 3,443	manual wind is part of panerai dna. its the only manual wind i would like to have.

6 September 2012, 02:45 PM	#13
mrarchiegoodwin "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: California/Malaga Watch: GShock Frogman Posts: 540	i have been wearing automatic watches for the past 10 years and have been winding them every morning. Similar to others it is part of the daily routine of preparation for the cruel harsh world outside.

6 September 2012, 05:01 PM	#14
Watchcraze007 Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Ahmed Location: Dubai & Cairo Watch: All of'em! Posts: 507	Agree with all the winders here!

6 September 2012, 07:18 PM	#16
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,499	an automatic no-date two-hand watch?

6 September 2012, 09:33 PM	#17
Travelller 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: VIE Watch: my sig. ;) Posts: 3,064	Like [almost] everyone else, I'm a hand-wound guy. My automatic Mühle is the first to stop as it only has a 48hr reserve (and I don't own a winder) and my 233 never stops because I wind it every Sunday evening...

6 September 2012, 11:05 PM	#19
servin34 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Belgium Posts: 39	It is a matter of habit winding your PAM000 on a daily basis. You will enjoy it even more

7 September 2012, 02:52 AM	#20
Awesome Jim Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Jim Location: Calgary Watch: And wear Posts: 113	Will, I can almost promise you that if you keep the 000 for awhile, you actually start looking forward to winding it and well might start doing it a few times a day, not because you have to but because you want to. Once you get into it, it's actually quite a "feel good" thing. In a way, it's almost like having a standard and being able to interact with your toy on a deeper level. J

7 September 2012, 03:05 AM	#21
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,149	Winding doesn't bother me, either, but if its not working for you maybe go with a 104. Similar size & luminor case. I'd skip the 312, tried it on about 8 times now but still too blocky for me.

7 September 2012, 12:23 PM	#27
Mrlion "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Lion Location: U.S., EU, Asia Watch: them on my wrist! Posts: 39	i have plenty of automatics and only my pam000, 233, moonwatch, are manual winds. I absolutely love manual winding them and it gives me great satisfaction doing so. i do not however, like winding my automatics.

14 September 2012, 09:14 PM	#28
brid "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 4	Agree, winding is part of the appeal, in the same way people buy manual cars over automatics. Deeper connection I think.

14 September 2012, 09:30 PM	#29
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Funny, but Panerai turns my usual preference upside-down... Manual wind, no date, no minute markers, etc... These days, I see Panerai as a simple, relaxed and refreshing break from other watches... the horological equivalent of a quiet weekend in the country (?!?) __________________

15 September 2012, 03:30 AM	#30
jenniferjanef "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,823	"winding" a 372 is totally different experience from winding a 000. One have to try it to understand what I mean. If you no like winding, don't pass on the 372. You might think differently after you give it a try. Cheers! James.

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