15400 legacy?

[Potawatomi]

Seeing the influx of the 500s I can't help but think they do everything 400 did but they do it better. I have a 400 and I love it but I'm wondering if we will look back at those models and say that there was something special about them someday. The only thing I can think is if the models continue to be 41mm and that stays a trend in the future then the 400s can be like the A serials of the 41mms. What say you?

[GB-man]

I would not plan on any modern RO becoming collectible like the 5402A.

When I buy a modern AP I think of how it will make me feel today as opposed to how it will be perceived down the road. Too much uncertainty.

[Potawatomi]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I would not plan on any modern RO becoming collectible like the 5402A.

When I buy a modern AP I think of how it will make me feel today as opposed to how it will be perceived down the road. Too much uncertainty.

I'm not trying only to look at the value stand point. Just trying to gauge if people think it has something special about it. I like the word "Automatic". I think it gives it balance but I'm probably alone there.

[grievor]

Originally Posted by Potawatomi

I'm not trying only to look at the value stand point. Just trying to gauge if people think it has something special about it. I like the word "Automatic". I think it gives it balance but I'm probably alone there.

I feel you. Agree with you on this one.

[mineral]

I saw the new incoming of 15500 lately and when compare to the 15400, I do think the discontinued 15400 dial looks much better than the 15500.


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[Potawatomi]

Originally Posted by mineral

I saw the new incoming of 15500 lately and when compare to the 15400, I do think the discontinued 15400 dial looks much better than the 15500.


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I think the new movement on the 15500 and the way it fills the case back really appeal to me. I think the dial feels a bit empty but that's only because I'm so used to the "automatic" and the date being closer to center. I'm sure as time goes by the 15500 dial will be what I immediately think about when I think about AP ROs.

[thekman]

I think those of us who own the 15500 will look at it as the better one and those of us who have the 15400 will look at it as the nicer one. Initially when the 15500 was released I personally felt the 15400 was more balanced in the pictures. Now that I won a 15500 I believe it looks better. In the end both are exquisite timepieces and I would enjoy owning either.

[blacke90]

Originally Posted by Potawatomi

I think the new movement on the 15500 and the way it fills the case back really appeal to me. I think the dial feels a bit empty but that's only because I'm so used to the "automatic" and the date being closer to center. I'm sure as time goes by the 15500 dial will be what I immediately think about when I think about AP ROs.

Agree with you on the emptiness initially, but now I appreciate the more modern/cleaner look of the 15500.

[epc2]

I'm wondering if those with the 15500 are getting better accuracy from the new mvmt. compared to the 3120?

[mineral]

Originally Posted by Potawatomi

I think the new movement on the 15500 and the way it fills the case back really appeal to me. I think the dial feels a bit empty but that's only because I'm so used to the "automatic" and the date being closer to center. I'm sure as time goes by the 15500 dial will be what I immediately think about when I think about AP ROs.

Agreed as the answer is really subjective. Both are winner at the end of the day. One more thing which really draw me to older 15400 is the longer hour markers which promote the balance look of dial.


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[grievor]

And not to forget the white dial option!

Really a miss from AP by excluding that.

[cascavel]

With the exception of the 5402, when it comes to the A/P Royal Oak nobody collects dial variations, size variations, movement variations, model variations, material variations or any other variations. They all seem to be treated the same or worse. Look at the 15202, older versions sell for less and anything other than blue dial, even less.

[~JJ]

Originally Posted by Potawatomi

I'm not trying only to look at the value stand point. Just trying to gauge if people think it has something special about it. I like the word "Automatic". I think it gives it balance but I'm probably alone there.

I wouldn’t care about group think, if it’s special to you than that’s all that counts

[Potawatomi]

Originally Posted by ~JJ

I wouldn’t care about group think, if it’s special to you than that’s all that counts

Good words. It definitely is special and I don't see a need to ever move to the 15500 because I dont think the changes are significant enough to redirect the overall feel of the watch. If I didn't have a 400 and I was shopping today I would definitely get the 500 however. I look forward to seeing how all the royal oaks age.

[Skyrider01]

Originally Posted by epc2

I'm wondering if those with the 15500 are getting better accuracy from the new mvmt. compared to the 3120?

I have had mine for 3 months now. It is running an average of +1.5 secs per day.

[grahammac]

Mine was running around 1 sec/day when i got it (in June), but it seems to have slipped to 15sec/day.
I'm holding off sending it back in for a check/adjustment until a time that suits me, as i guess it will be away for a few weeks.

[Skyrider01]

Originally Posted by grahammac

Mine was running around 1 sec/day when i got it (in June), but it seems to have slipped to 15sec/day.
I'm holding off sending it back in for a check/adjustment until a time that suits me, as i guess it will be away for a few weeks.

Mine went from 1.5 to around 20 spd a couple of weeks after I got it.
It turned out it got magnetized (I have no idea how) while I was on vacation. I demagnetized it once I got home and it's running fine now.

Maybe yours got magnetized as well.

[grahammac]

Interesting, I never thought of that.
I have a Panerai (Rad PAM514) that runs about +15sec/day too, after being good to a few secs/day originally.
What tool/model demagnetiser do you use?

[Skyrider01]

Originally Posted by grahammac

Interesting, I never thought of that.
I have a Panerai (Rad PAM514) that runs about +15sec/day too, after being good to a few secs/day originally.
What tool/model demagnetiser do you use?

I have one of these. About $12 on Amazon or eBay.
Works great!

[grahammac]

Thanks. I'm off shopping now..........

[V25V]

I do not think so.

[grahammac]

Originally Posted by V25V

I do not think so.

Err, what is it that you do not think is so?

[V25V]

Originally Posted by grahammac

Err, what is it that you do not think is so?

Is it really that special? Aside from being the first 41mm RO, why would it go down as a special or collectible? The 15500 is still 41mm and sure the dial looks empty in comparison, but I do not think anyone would pass over a 15500 for a 15400. Just my .02!

[grahammac]

Originally Posted by V25V

Is it really that special? Aside from being the first 41mm RO, why would it go down as a special or collectible? The 15500 is still 41mm and sure the dial looks empty in comparison, but I do not think anyone would pass over a 15500 for a 15400. Just my .02!

I thought you were adding to the demagetiser sub-discussion. My bad.

[H_UK]

I prefer the 15400 over the 15500 but I am biased as I own a blue dial 15400! I am awaiting my grey 15500 but I still feel the 15400 is more balanced as a dial and the fact that it is thinner works for me. I do like the movement in the 15500 but overall if I had to only choose one in the same dial color it would always be the 15400 - no question! (oh and yes its cheaper now given the price increase in the UK!)

[othertbone]

Originally Posted by Potawatomi

Seeing the influx of the 500s I can't help but think they do everything 400 did but they do it better. I have a 400 and I love it but I'm wondering if we will look back at those models and say that there was something special about them someday. The only thing I can think is if the models continue to be 41mm and that stays a trend in the future then the 400s can be like the A serials of the 41mms. What say you?

15500 Rocks

[masterserg]

I don't think it has a particular legacy .. it's part of the evolution of the Royal Oak, same as the 15300, 15500 and 15600 to come a few years from now. Which one you like better ... that's for you to decide.

5402 is the only one with a true legacy ... similar to the 25721 ROO Beast.

[Muxi]

Originally Posted by grahammac

Mine was running around 1 sec/day when i got it (in June), but it seems to have slipped to 15sec/day.
I'm holding off sending it back in for a check/adjustment until a time that suits me, as i guess it will be away for a few weeks.

Mine too, but i think it is not magnetized as when I manually wind it, it goes back to near spot on or +2 a day. Peculiar. I usually notice it jumping after about 3 days of continuous use.

[Skyrider01]

Originally Posted by Muxi

Mine too, but i think it is not magnetized as when I manually wind it, it goes back to near spot on or +2 a day. Peculiar. I usually notice it jumping after about 3 days of continuous use.

When a watch nears the end of it's power reserve, it will tend to run fast as the main spring unwinds. If you are wearing it continuously, this should not be the case, but if you don't wear it for a couple of days, you will see that it will speed up the last day or two. However, not from 2 to 15 spd. I find that my watches which run within +2 spd, typically speed up to about 5 to 8 spd when nearing the end of their power reserve.

Even if you wear your watch continuously most of the time, it is recommended to give it a full manual wind once a week, to keep the power reserve topped off.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Potawatomi

I'm not trying only to look at the value stand point. Just trying to gauge if people think it has something special about it. I like the word "Automatic". I think it gives it balance but I'm probably alone there.

i prefer the 15400 in every way, minus the date. I wouldn't "upgrade" mine