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19 September 2018, 12:15 AM | #121 |
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Lol really? So why do I hear every other day from ppl.. "hey is that a Rolex?"
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19 September 2018, 12:17 AM | #122 |
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The Patek/RollsRoyce analogy is incorrect. The common man knows RR, but has no clue what a Patek is.
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19 September 2018, 12:18 AM | #123 | |
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Maybe it's the crowd you hang with. Not everybody on this planet is the same.
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19 September 2018, 12:19 AM | #124 |
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19 September 2018, 12:20 AM | #125 |
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That's the truth and that's a real good thing.
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19 September 2018, 12:23 AM | #126 |
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Yeah, but that's true for anyone one interest group who are focused on almost any type of thing.
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19 September 2018, 12:31 AM | #127 |
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It's true, everyone has heard of the name of Rolex but 9 in 10 people couldn't tell you what one looked like, and why should they as not even half of that leftover amount will ever be close to buying one so why bother? Luxury watches are incredibly niche, even before you start subdividing into brand names.
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19 September 2018, 12:33 AM | #128 |
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Yes. Really. I can’t answer your question unfortunately. I just know from my own personal experience (and many MANY here) it’s unusual when people notice my watch. Which is my preference. If I want to impress people I’ll just wear a tank top and flex my biceps.
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19 September 2018, 12:43 AM | #129 |
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There you go.... whatever works for you
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19 September 2018, 01:14 AM | #130 | |
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19 September 2018, 01:55 AM | #131 |
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No objection from me with resale value, but "Nobody does workmanship like Patek Philippe?"
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You mean all the hand finishing work that's involved that'll you"ll never ever get from a Rolex? But then again some people don't understand or appreciate these things.
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19 September 2018, 02:02 AM | #133 |
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I prefer everything about the Patek.
I find the DateJust to be a very boring watch and would rather have a Submariner
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19 September 2018, 02:17 AM | #134 | |
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Many parts in Patek are finished with machine tools, they are not as hand finished as you think. |
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19 September 2018, 02:27 AM | #135 | |
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Unless you have some inside knowledge which I've yet to read or hear I'm just going off of information I have read and other members who have much greater knowledge than I. But for now I'm going with that.
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19 September 2018, 02:30 AM | #136 | |
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They have long changed to using machine tools for beveling instead of wood stick, they even shown it on their own website. Are they better finished than Rolex? Yes, but are they the best in business, no. Patek is now the largest producer of watches in the HH category, they can't output that many watches without cutting corners, it is what it is. Here, found one for you: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=621148 I am not bashing, I love Patek, I just bought a 5131P this year, but at the same time I am not blind to their shortcomings. |
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19 September 2018, 02:36 AM | #137 |
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There isn't a Patek in production I couldn't buy. But I prefer mens watches.
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19 September 2018, 02:40 AM | #138 | |
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I get it. Believe me it's kind of a fact of life. It sucks in many ways. Processes have to change if not only to keep up but the fact that labor costs are so high. Some of those processes result in a better product and some do not. Some is just the thought that they are no longer any real craftsman left. Does that even mean the resulting finish is any better or worse? Sometimes yes, and sometimes it's just different. That's why for some things I opt to buy older things. In a lot of cases they are still in great to pristine condition. Sometimes it's just because I refuse to buy disposable or even just plastic crap. Oh, and before I forget. Thanks for sharing.
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19 September 2018, 02:47 AM | #139 | |
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Same happened to me, I started with Rolex, and then to Patek believing they are the best, but as I bought more and more watches and attended dinners with watchmakers or watch collectors, I started to learn in some aspects, Patek is not the best anymore. But it's ok, I still love the brand and some of the watches they make |
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19 September 2018, 02:50 AM | #140 |
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There are tiers within Patek as well. A Nautilus will not be in the same category as a grand master chime. A 5711 MSRP is less than a white gold GMT II BLRO and would be in comparison to a VC Overseas and an AP ROO. When compared to its direct completion it stacks up well
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19 September 2018, 03:14 AM | #141 | |
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Frankly some of these others simply do not make as many so that simply makes sense that they would be able to do things differently. I would agree however that often you can find better things from a custom shop or someone who makes a limited number of items every year.
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19 September 2018, 03:52 AM | #142 | |
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You said output makes a difference. Of course I agree, GF makes about 100 pieces a year, Credor Eichi II is about 20 pieces a year, they have all the time in the world to do hand finishing. On the other hand, if Patek has to make 1M watches a year like Rolex, they wouldn't be doing any finishing either. Now if we were to compare say, VC, AP, and ALS, yeah, I don't think there is much between them in terms of finishing, and throw in resale value, it's no secret why most people go for Patek every time. |
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19 September 2018, 04:38 AM | #143 |
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That is no longer true. Patek is all over music, hollywood and social media right now. 3 years ago I would have agreed.
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Great review! Thanks for sharing!
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19 September 2018, 04:58 AM | #145 |
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The reality is that Patek and Rolex are not comparable. They are both amazing in their own ways and so very different.
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19 September 2018, 02:18 PM | #146 |
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No problem......
Glad it helpful.....
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Not sure what society you live in...... As brand identity..... The society where I live in they know Rolex brand and what a Rolex look like..... As for the Patek Philippe they know the brand and what a Patek Philippe suppose to look like by looking at, if the watch have that moonphase... They make not know what a Aquanaut & Nautilus look like but time have change and now they start to know.... Example of my experience with my grandmother..... My grandmother don't know anything about watches but know Rolex watches and what it look like..... She ask me why I don't buy another Rolex and what kind of watch brand I'm wearing on my wrist today.... I told her is a Patek Philippe grandma...... My grandmother respond is I never saw this kind of Patek Philippe watch before but I know Patek Philippe is very expensive and cost 3 time more than the Rolex.... I was shock for my grandma to know that and the Patek Philippe brand..... Quote:
That why the Aquanaut & Nautilus have the long waiting lists....
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Have to agree with this. Can't help but think it's had a (minor) contribution towards the Nautilus craze over the past year as well...
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Plus for the most part the age demographics are conflicting. Most people who know what a Patek is are much older than the age of someone who listens to most of the new hip hop. I still listen to the older stuff, not the new. While the actual musicians may be sporting Pateks, their target age 15-25 year old listener isnt going out and buying them, at least until they get a bit older.
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