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19 February 2018, 05:47 AM | #61 |
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Regarding the lug debate: does anyone think they’ll chamfer the GMT but not the sub to differentiate the cases. (Or vice versa)
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19 February 2018, 05:49 AM | #62 |
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Thinner chamfered lugs, modern bracelet Coke GMT in stainless steel.
The wait time will make the ceramic Daytona list look like a wait for a burger at McDonalds. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
19 February 2018, 05:56 AM | #63 |
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Agreed. I always thought the Maxicase is/was a mistake and even though I own one, I much prefer a more tapered balanced look.
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19 February 2018, 05:58 AM | #64 |
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I think Rolex will roll out new case designs as new movements are integrated into each model. When that happens, I think Rolex will go about making subtle changes to the lugs and cases.
Rolex does everything in a methodical, slow way (well most things), so I believe that case and lug redesigns will land somewhere in between the slim and refined 4 digit and the blocky, rugged 6 digit designs. Thank you I’m Swiss, so I like to play it down the middle |
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A more telling measure would be what if Rolex were making a Sub in two case variants ? And the consumer was presented with this option in the AD's case? Which one would sell more? I have no idea what the answer is and there is no right or wrong answer. |
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Good point my friend. But, it’s not like 5 digit subs are in short demand, so there options for buyers. I’m assuming you meant “brand new options”. |
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19 February 2018, 06:15 AM | #72 |
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In both instances, I would also love to see a return of lug holes and chamfers to the case. |
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True dat. I did mean brand new options. Yes, plenty of vintage subs out there so definitely a variety of cases for the enthusiast. I am more curious as to whether or not a a Sub, with a new slimmer lug/wider bracelet such as the SD43 would sell as much, more, or less than the current maxi case if the consumer was given the choice at the AD.? Obviously it will never happen but what if there was a maxi case Sub and SD43 style Sub at the same time? I have my suspicions and I don't believe there is a right or wrong answer. It's all a matter of personal preference. Having owned both, my vote goes for the more balanced look of the tapered lugs case etc. I have thought the maxi case was a bad idea from the get go because to me it lost that classic Rolex look. That said, the one thing you can count on in life is change, whether or not we agree with it, it will happen. |
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19 February 2018, 06:53 AM | #75 |
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I doubt it will happen any time soon. There might be a significant proportion of people on these forums who prefer the vintage/slimmer lugs, but as it's been said, the larger market has spoken, and the current generation of Subs fly off the shelves faster than consumers can chase after them. Rolex is not likely to fix what ain't broke, and they aren't likely to take a chance by altering the design. I personally would bet on no change in this aspect.
Also, many people who have only recently become Rolex fans did not "grow up" with the 5-digit Sub models, so there was no time for them to grow fond of the design. Many of the younger-generation Rolex consumers are mainly familiar & thus attached to the latest design. It's my guess that these folks comprise the majority of the market (& certainly the future market) for Subs, and will continue to identify Subs with those larger, square-jawed lugs. I'm part of the newer generation of Rolex fans who prefers the current, more chunky/masculine design - at least on the Sub. |
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Does anyone know for sure if the new 3235 movement will fit into a 40 mm case?
I've read that the diameter is the same as 3135 @ 28.5 mm, but one site says "It is used in the larger Datejust 41 and red Sea-Dweller 43 mm models. The larger diameter allowed for a larger barrel offering a 70 hour power reserve". So perhaps a gimped version in a 40 mm Sub? |
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I agree. I prefer the Maxicase. Rolex evidently has no problem selling them. Reading this forum I find myself sometimes thinking that the very few wis types here overestimate the perceived impact of their posts upon any actual Rolex decision makers who might lurk here.
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19 February 2018, 07:15 AM | #78 |
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I never liked the fat lugs. They never blended well with the bracelet. I still had the 116613lb but sold it. Prefer the lugs of the Daytona.
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19 February 2018, 07:17 AM | #79 |
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Only 5 digits for me.
Tried the ceramic case, gone in no time.
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This is just my opinion, and I could be totally off my rocker, but I feel for sure all the submariner’s will get the new 3235 movement. Why would they keep the 3135? Plus, it gives them a reason to raise the price. As for a different case, I really doubt it. Given it’s history with change, Rolex doesn’t make big redesigns. I too preferred the 5 digit case size. That is until I bought a 6 digit submariner. Yes, the proportions aren’t as good, but I feel it’s much sportier. And as a society moving away from more formal settings, I think it fits much better with who we are. Not trying to lump everybody together, but just speaking generally.
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IMO the larger lugs in flesh are not an issue..
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This. Completely agree. Our WIS community is small versus general buyers. They don’t seem to care. I do care. I like the 5-digit but I have both. I am trying to convince myself I like the 6-digit but it’s not going well. I hope they reduce the size of the lugs or add 1mm to the bracelet width. I expect neither to happen. Always great to read one of these threads! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Rolex could easily have stuck the new movement in the DJ2 case, but they didn’t. They designed a whole new smaller case with different proportions. And I’d bet the DJ2 was the best selling Rolex during its time in production
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They already make a 40 mm sub. with slim lugs....its called a yacht master
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Just to add with ADs now filled to the brim with unsold DJ41s that is actually an argument that maybe they shouldn't admit to another "mistake", brand perception is a very delicate thing. |
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