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CassiusNZ · 6 August 2015, 04:01 AM

Morning All,

Alright have cancelled out the YG Daytona, Sub and GMT as there all a bit bulky.. and have found the one that fits me the best is the YG Blue Dial Yachtmaster... 16628. Well.. all I could try on is the two tone.. which feel great.. but I want the YG.

Here are my questions -

1. What is the difference in movt., case construction, bracelet between the early models of this model 92 I think.. and the later.. 2005 i think?

2. Is the bezel able to be repolished or replaced if there is excessive scratching in the future?

3. How easy are these to service? I assume a simple movt.. i am from NZL so don't want anything too vintage or complicated.

Thanks all! Also whats a decent price for one? Seen them range from 15k (earlier model) to $19k Later model

Thanks!

CassiusNZ · 6 August 2015, 06:44 AM

No one?

Alpino · 6 August 2015, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CassiusNZ

Here are my questions -

1. What is the difference in movt., case construction, bracelet between the early models of this model 92 I think.. and the later.. 2005 i think?

2. Is the bezel able to be repolished or replaced if there is excessive scratching in the future?

3. How easy are these to service? I assume a simple movt.. i am from NZL so don't want anything too vintage or complicated.

1.
Production date starts in 1992 but ends in 2011, not 2005.
There have been no modification from the begining to the end, except the engraved rehaut added around 2007.

2. yes and yes .

3. servicing a 16628 is like servicing every other Rolex model. The movement is a standard 3135.
It may just cost more if some external parts have to be changed , like the crown , because they are made of gold not steel.

CassiusNZ · 6 August 2015, 07:34 AM

Great info thanks Alpino!

Flex368 · 6 August 2015, 04:26 PM

I am confused here as the OP says the Daytona is a little too bulky.

Alpino, isn´t the YM 1662x case the same as for the 1652x Daytona just without the pushers?

m j b · 6 August 2015, 09:47 PM

I had a YM for a while, and it is a beautiful watch. When I went to sell it and took some close-up photos, I discovered that the bezel had quite a few light scratches in it, so it's not nearly as durable as the newer ceramics. But they are gorgeous, and so I guess that's just the price that you pay for beauty.

watchwatcher · 6 August 2015, 09:54 PM

Well, as usual Alpino is spot on so I don't have much to add. But, I am thinking along the lines of Felix...I can't imagine a gold YM being less bulky than a gold Daytona. I think your best bet is trying on gold models back to back and making a determination that way.

hunterp27 · 7 August 2015, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpino

1.
Production date starts in 1992 but ends in 2011, not 2005.
There have been no modification from the begining to the end, except the engraved rehaut added around 2007.

2. yes and yes .

3. servicing a 16628 is like servicing every other Rolex model. The movement is a standard 3135.
It may just cost more if some external parts have to be changed , like the crown , because they are made of gold not steel.

I thought there was a small modification to the case lugs (at then very tip where it curves down) along the way as well as case lug holes being removed too? Someone who has deeper knowledge can confirm this i'm sure.

Alpino · 7 August 2015, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunterp27

I thought there was a small modification to the case lugs (at then very tip where it curves down) along the way as well as case lug holes being removed too? Someone who has deeper knowledge can confirm this i'm sure.

You're right for lug holes removal. I don't know the exact year it occured, probably between 97 and 2000.

For the lugs modification , I can't say. Would be interesting to compare 2 models from the begining and from the end of production, to tell.

BAMBAM · 28 October 2015, 02:49 PM

The very first of the 16628 had also a Submariner case and a long waiting list at the AD !

Eric Chan · 28 October 2015, 03:03 PM

Sounds like the experts have chimed in. Their info is always appreciated.

The YG YM especially the one with the blur dial is a fantastic alternative to the more common place Subs and GMT's out there. It is too bad Rolex discontinued it back in 2011.

Lordofrolex · 28 October 2015, 03:09 PM

I looked into one. They go for around 16k. If you like it do it.

BAMBAM · 28 October 2015, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Chan

Sounds like the experts have chimed in. Their info is always appreciated.

The YG YM especially the one with the blur dial is a fantastic alternative to the more common place Subs and GMT's out there. It is too bad Rolex discontinued it back in 2011.

I am far away from expert on the YM , but as I just intend to buy this one I was looking to a lot of information's. This one was serviced already thats why we have the SL dial and hands.

Eric Chan · 29 October 2015, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAMBAM

I am far away from expert on the YM , but as I just intend to buy this one I was looking to a lot of information's. This one was serviced already thats why we have the SL dial and hands.

A beauty.

Onikage · 29 October 2015, 06:01 AM

Very nice.

subking86 · 29 October 2015, 09:40 AM

Beautiful watch. Just like the SS model.

LuminousMaximus · 29 October 2015, 09:53 AM

I'm not a YachtMaster Expert, but I have never seen one that had brushed lugs like the photo above...

I believe that they are all polished...

LuminousMaximus · 29 October 2015, 09:59 AM

Here's another. I tried to find the same angle. Does the case seem different?

lja1821 · 29 October 2015, 11:02 AM

Yes i agree looks like a sub case and bracelet with yachtmaster bezel and dial. The crown guards and sels are a dead giveaway.

LuminousMaximus · 29 October 2015, 02:59 PM

Yep, the brushed case lugs look longer as well...

sigguy · 30 October 2015, 02:07 PM

Definitely different. The older model has lug holes and the end-links are shorter than
the end of the lugs. The newer model has no lug holes and the end links do protrude
out slightly from the lugs. I'm pretty sure it was around the T or U serial number
series that they made that change. I have an A series and it's definitely the later
no-hole case with protruding end links.

Looking at some other pictures online the lugs are definitely shaped differently
between the old and new version; the newer lugs are curved more and have flat spots on
the bottom tips; the old ones don't. The later one wears very comfortably for me; the bracelet
fits well and the case doesn't move around much on the wrist. For a heavy watch (183 grams)
thats good. Note that it's quite a bit heavier than the two-tone.

Compared to the other 18k gold sport rolexes it's much less common and doesn't seem
as popular as the gold sub or gmt; still a great watch.

gem21 · 30 October 2015, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigguy

Definitely different. The older model has lug holes and the end-links are shorter than
the end of the lugs. The newer model has no lug holes and the end links do protrude
out slightly from the lugs. I'm pretty sure it was around the T or U serial number
series that they made that change. I have an A series and it's definitely the later
no-hole case with protruding end links.

Looking at some other pictures online the lugs are definitely shaped differently
between the old and new version; the newer lugs are curved more and have flat spots on
the bottom tips; the old ones don't. The later one wears very comfortably for me; the bracelet
fits well and the case doesn't move around much on the wrist. For a heavy watch (183 grams)
thats good. Note that it's quite a bit heavier than the two-tone.

Compared to the other 18k gold sport rolexes it's much less common and doesn't seem
as popular as the gold sub or gmt; still a great watch.

The original gold YM from the early 90's used a submariner case, that was changed on all models with the introduction of the TT's and the steel and Pt variants in the mid to late 90's. i suspect the submariner cased models are fairly rare.

jschmidtdmd · 30 October 2015, 02:59 PM

Just to reconfirm, the YG YM with blue dial is out of production correct?

I really like that piece, it's too bad if that's the case. If someone could confirm I would appreciate it.

JPS

sigguy · 31 October 2015, 01:14 PM

Yes, last time the 16628 was in the Rolex catalog was 2011. Did not appear
in the 2012 catalog.

The moose · 31 October 2015, 05:56 PM

Here is mine from 1994, lovely watch!

Onikage · 1 November 2015, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuminousMaximus

Here's another. I tried to find the same angle. Does the case seem different?

The early Yachtmaster was only made in full gold and looked like a Sub. Thin crown guards, brushed lug surfaces, flat sides. The case was completely reworked for later ones with a full sheen finish, more rounded, smoother contours and fatter crown guards. They seem to have brought back a slightly more angular case for the new everose one.

thesharkfactor · 20 April 2018, 07:04 AM

Thread resurrection...

I'm looking at one of these older 16628's in the early Submariner style case. I think the shape is far more desirable than the later model..the lugs and crown guards look just like a Sub.

With a view to flipping this later, would I be wiser to buy the early or later model 16628? In other words, is one more desirable or easier to sell than the other? I don't wish to buy a watch I would be stuck with..but I do prefer the Sub cased watch..

Onikage · 20 April 2018, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

Thread resurrection...

I'm looking at one of these older 16628's in the early Submariner style case. I think the shape is far more desirable than the later model..the lugs and crown guards look just like a Sub.

With a view to flipping this later, would I be wiser to buy the early or later model 16628? In other words, is one more desirable or easier to sell than the other? I don't wish to buy a watch I would be stuck with..but I do prefer the Sub cased watch..

As always - Condition is most important. I have to say I've never seen an early example in as great condition as the one pictured above. If given the choice and you can find one of those GET IT! The newer one is still cool though, almost like it has Daytona DNA. It's just sexy.

thesharkfactor · 20 April 2018, 07:58 AM

I just know the older one would be a better fit on my wrist, the later model has longer SEL's which I cannot not-see each time I look at it. They all stunning ofcourse! I wonder why they changed the case and SEL's.. it looked real sharp they way it was, i dont think they improved it!

sigguy · 20 April 2018, 08:04 AM

Yes I agree with Onikage; condition is more important than old/new style for this model. Since the differences are very minor there isn't a jump in price between old/new.
If you find the older one you want in good condition I don't think you will get hurt.

6 August 2015, 04:01 AM	#1
CassiusNZ "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Galveston, TX Posts: 216	16628 - YG Blue Dial Yachtmaster Questions - Help Needed.... Morning All, Alright have cancelled out the YG Daytona, Sub and GMT as there all a bit bulky.. and have found the one that fits me the best is the YG Blue Dial Yachtmaster... 16628. Well.. all I could try on is the two tone.. which feel great.. but I want the YG. Here are my questions - 1. What is the difference in movt., case construction, bracelet between the early models of this model 92 I think.. and the later.. 2005 i think? 2. Is the bezel able to be repolished or replaced if there is excessive scratching in the future? 3. How easy are these to service? I assume a simple movt.. i am from NZL so don't want anything too vintage or complicated. Thanks all! Also whats a decent price for one? Seen them range from 15k (earlier model) to $19k Later model Thanks!

6 August 2015, 09:47 PM	#6
m j b "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Michael Location: RTP, NC, USA Watch: ♕& Ω Posts: 5,090	I had a YM for a while, and it is a beautiful watch. When I went to sell it and took some close-up photos, I discovered that the bezel had quite a few light scratches in it, so it's not nearly as durable as the newer ceramics. But they are gorgeous, and so I guess that's just the price that you pay for beauty. __________________ Enjoy life - it has an expiration date. Disclaimer: Please note that the avatar is not an accurate representation of how I look. The camera adds 10 pounds...

28 October 2015, 02:49 PM	#10
BAMBAM "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: JÖRG Location: GEMANY Posts: 299	The very first of the 16628 had also a Submariner case and a long waiting list at the AD ! __________________ Pain is temporary, glory is forever X X X BAMBAM

28 October 2015, 03:09 PM	#12
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,690	I looked into one. They go for around 16k. If you like it do it. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

29 October 2015, 06:01 AM	#15
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,758	Very nice. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

6 August 2015, 06:44 AM	#2
CassiusNZ "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Galveston, TX Posts: 216	No one?

6 August 2015, 07:34 AM	#4
CassiusNZ "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Galveston, TX Posts: 216	Great info thanks Alpino!

6 August 2015, 04:26 PM	#5
Flex368 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Felix Location: GMT +1 Watch: Yes! Posts: 2,974	I am confused here as the OP says the Daytona is a little too bulky. Alpino, isn´t the YM 1662x case the same as for the 1652x Daytona just without the pushers?

6 August 2015, 09:54 PM	#7
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,479	Well, as usual Alpino is spot on so I don't have much to add. But, I am thinking along the lines of Felix...I can't imagine a gold YM being less bulky than a gold Daytona. I think your best bet is trying on gold models back to back and making a determination that way.

28 October 2015, 03:03 PM	#11
Eric Chan "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Eric Chan Location: Vancouver, BC CAN Watch: Day-Date 118238 Posts: 8,798	Sounds like the experts have chimed in. Their info is always appreciated. The YG YM especially the one with the blur dial is a fantastic alternative to the more common place Subs and GMT's out there. It is too bad Rolex discontinued it back in 2011.

29 October 2015, 09:40 AM	#16
subking86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: key west Watch: 16610 Posts: 811	Beautiful watch. Just like the SS model.

29 October 2015, 11:02 AM	#19
lja1821 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Joe Location: NJ Watch: 16613ln Posts: 627	16628 - YG Blue Dial Yachtmaster Questions - Help Needed.... Yes i agree looks like a sub case and bracelet with yachtmaster bezel and dial. The crown guards and sels are a dead giveaway.

29 October 2015, 02:59 PM	#20
LuminousMaximus "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Watch: me hit Huge Lotto Posts: 6,502	Yep, the brushed case lugs look longer as well... __________________ “Every man Dies... Not Every Man, Really Lives.” – William Wallace - To really lives means to live your life to the fullest. It means to chase your dreams, take risks, and to love life. Since everyone’s fate is the same, why not live the best life that you possibly can? In order to really live,you must seize the day. Live each day as if it's your last and overall just do it! Today is a gift, that’s why it’s called the present...

30 October 2015, 02:07 PM	#21
sigguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Mexico Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 224	Definitely different. The older model has lug holes and the end-links are shorter than the end of the lugs. The newer model has no lug holes and the end links do protrude out slightly from the lugs. I'm pretty sure it was around the T or U serial number series that they made that change. I have an A series and it's definitely the later no-hole case with protruding end links. Looking at some other pictures online the lugs are definitely shaped differently between the old and new version; the newer lugs are curved more and have flat spots on the bottom tips; the old ones don't. The later one wears very comfortably for me; the bracelet fits well and the case doesn't move around much on the wrist. For a heavy watch (183 grams) thats good. Note that it's quite a bit heavier than the two-tone. Compared to the other 18k gold sport rolexes it's much less common and doesn't seem as popular as the gold sub or gmt; still a great watch.

30 October 2015, 02:59 PM	#23
jschmidtdmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: John Location: Denver Posts: 2,294	Just to reconfirm, the YG YM with blue dial is out of production correct? I really like that piece, it's too bad if that's the case. If someone could confirm I would appreciate it. JPS __________________ Watches!

31 October 2015, 01:14 PM	#24
sigguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Mexico Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 224	Yes, last time the 16628 was in the Rolex catalog was 2011. Did not appear in the 2012 catalog.

31 October 2015, 05:56 PM	#25
The moose Banned Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: USA Posts: 968	Here is mine from 1994, lovely watch!

20 April 2018, 07:04 AM	#27
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,487	Thread resurrection... I'm looking at one of these older 16628's in the early Submariner style case. I think the shape is far more desirable than the later model..the lugs and crown guards look just like a Sub. With a view to flipping this later, would I be wiser to buy the early or later model 16628? In other words, is one more desirable or easier to sell than the other? I don't wish to buy a watch I would be stuck with..but I do prefer the Sub cased watch..

20 April 2018, 08:04 AM	#30
sigguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Mexico Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 224	Yes I agree with Onikage; condition is more important than old/new style for this model. Since the differences are very minor there isn't a jump in price between old/new. If you find the older one you want in good condition I don't think you will get hurt.

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