ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Zach.Mellinger · 9 January 2010, 07:23 AM

Hello All,

I am new to the forum here and have joined because I recently inherited this Yacht Master. This is my first Rolex and as it came with no documentation I would like to ensure its authenticity. I have taken the watch to two Rolex dealers and they confirmed it is authentic but of course, more opinions are better and this forum seemed like the right place to do that. The face & back are in great shape and the band has some normal wear. Please leave your comments and suggestions.

Thank you,
Zach

bokmeipai · 9 January 2010, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach.Mellinger

Hello All,

I am new to the forum here and have joined because I recently inherited this Yacht Master. This is my first Rolex and as it came with no documentation I would like to ensure its authenticity. I have taken the watch to two Rolex dealers and they confirmed it is authentic but of course, more opinions are better and this forum seemed like the right place to do that. The face & back are in great shape and the band has some normal wear. Please leave your comments and suggestions.

Thank you,
Zach

If you had this checked out by rolex dealers and they confirmed authenticity then you should be okay. If in doubt you can always take it to AD or send it in to Rolex for service to make sure.

Zach.Mellinger · 1 February 2010, 07:15 AM

Can anyone provide me with the model number for this Yacht Master?

spuds · 1 February 2010, 07:24 AM

Welcome....
& IMO if two AD's have authenticated it I don't think you need further verification....
Do you??

JJ Irani · 1 February 2010, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach.Mellinger

Can anyone provide me with the model number for this Yacht Master?

Model No. is 16623. Here's what the original clasp of the TT YM should look like.

metal man · 1 February 2010, 02:53 PM

JJ , (don't want to go on the tosser list but) any chance it's a 168623. Looks like a mid size to me and that's quite a bit of wear for a 166 since they've only been out for a few years? A referance shot would be helpfull.

JJ Irani · 1 February 2010, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metal man

JJ , (don't want to go on the tosser list but) any chance it's a 168623. Looks like a mid size to me and that's quite a bit of wear for a 166 since they've only been out for a few years? A referance shot would be helpfull.

Yes, I'm sorry, you are right. That is a mid-size judging mainly from the TWINLOCK smaller crown.

JJ

Zach.Mellinger · 1 February 2010, 06:22 PM

Thanks you for all of your comments. Like I mentioned, this is my first Rolex and I really know nothing about them so anything you can write about the watch will be helpful. Any idea what a used watch like this is worth?

Nairn1980 · 2 February 2010, 03:23 AM

Looks fake to me...sorry!

1000ftSub · 2 February 2010, 04:56 AM

I don't think its real....

1. Take a close look in photo 2, notice there is a serial number on the end link. I think on a YM like that the serial number should be inside the clasp.

JJ Irani · 2 February 2010, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1000ftSub

I don't think its real....

1. Take a close look in photo 2, notice there is a serial number on the end link. I think on a YM like that the serial number should be inside the clasp.

Yes, it does look fishy. Compare the crown on that clasp and notice how crudely it's been finished as compared with my picture of the crown.

JJ

Zach.Mellinger · 2 February 2010, 05:28 AM

I see what you mean about the Crown on the clasp.... That would be very disappointing to find out this watch is a fake.

JJ Irani · 2 February 2010, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach.Mellinger

I see what you mean about the Crown on the clasp.... That would be very disappointing to find out this watch is a fake.

Well, if you want peace of mind, any good watchmaker will be able to evaluate that.

Good luck - JJ

Zach.Mellinger · 2 February 2010, 09:38 AM

Yes, I will have the watched looked at again. I left it back home while I am away for my last semester in college. Thank you all for your comments.

SPARTAN2161 · 26 February 2010, 08:17 AM

Thats deff fake. That crown on the clasp looks real crappy. Was the band ever replaced?

Zach.Mellinger · 26 February 2010, 09:15 AM

Not sure if the band has been replaced... I see what you mean about the crown. I will be back home at the end of March so I can pick up the watch and post some more detailed pictures.

mannyb · 27 February 2010, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach.Mellinger

I have taken the watch to two Rolex dealers and they confirmed it is authentic.

Were these two Rolex dealers Authorized Dealers? Given some on this forum suspect it's a fake, I'd be surprised then if you did take it to an Authorized Dealer. I can't imagine an AD making this kind of mistake.

RLXSTR · 2 March 2010, 03:14 AM

Did the two Rolex dealers open the watch to review the movement? Did they also remove the band to review the serial number? Even though it may have the correct serial number, how it was engraved can be a tell-tale sign.

We do not purchase any pre-owned Rolex's unless my Rolex technician reviews the watch, including movement before an offer is made.

What I've seen so far, replica Daytona's are the number one fake that comes in the store, followed by the ladies DateJust.

Be sure to ask the dealers how they verify authenticity. Eye-balling the watch isn't the professional way.

Tony-GB · 2 March 2010, 05:13 AM

Take it to Rolex & ask them to check the movement as it's losing time. They will check it for free. If it's fake they will confiscate the watch & if it's real, they will give you a receipt to say it's been checked & adjusted at no charge. That bit of paper will be better than any AD check.

But like the previous comments from my TRF colleagues, it does look odd.

vaq129e4 · 4 March 2010, 12:14 AM

Can they just take the watch? If it is fake?

Zach.Mellinger · 26 March 2010, 05:03 AM

Hey everyone,
I am finally back home and have the watch in my possesion now. I will have my friend take some better pictures for me for you all to look at it. I must be honest, I should have said my mother when I said I had taken the watch in to be looked at. So, within in the week I will have some better pictures and I will be taking the watch down to the Ben Bridge in Honolulu for myself.

Cato · 26 March 2010, 08:46 AM

Fake because:

dial printing looks off

crown on clasp looks dull

bracelet links look too rounded

Does the bezel turn in both directions?

Zach.Mellinger · 26 March 2010, 11:22 AM

Yes, bezel is bidirectional.

Zach.Mellinger · 26 March 2010, 11:31 AM

Talked to my mother, she said the person at Ben Bridge told her the watch had been refurbished. This could explain the band. Is it common to have a band replaced when having a watch refurbished? What generally takes place for refurbishment? Just depends on what is wrong I suppose.

I appreciate all your help.

Zach.Mellinger · 26 March 2010, 11:48 AM

Here are some higher res photos.

vtsnowplow · 9 April 2010, 07:08 AM

looks good to me. nice watch!

rolexyz · 18 June 2010, 03:05 AM

the bezel and watch body look real for me, don't know about bracelet

1 February 2010, 07:24 AM	#4
spuds "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: Essex, UK Watch: West Ham! COYI!! Posts: 7,941	Welcome.... & IMO if two AD's have authenticated it I don't think you need further verification.... Do you?? __________________ Onwards & Upwards Rodders...... Onwards & Upwards. Life is not about how fast you can run or how high you can climb........... It's about how well you can bounce!! TRF HALL OF FAME JANUARY 2010

2 March 2010, 05:13 AM	#19
Tony-GB "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Oxfordshire, UK Watch: 116680 & 116622 Posts: 3,953	Take it to Rolex & ask them to check the movement as it's losing time. They will check it for free. If it's fake they will confiscate the watch & if it's real, they will give you a receipt to say it's been checked & adjusted at no charge. That bit of paper will be better than any AD check. But like the previous comments from my TRF colleagues, it does look odd. __________________ "...why oh why, didn't I take the blue pill...?" http://www.helenanddouglas.org.uk/ www.cheetah.org

1 February 2010, 07:15 AM	#3
Zach.Mellinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: n/a Posts: 10	Can anyone provide me with the model number for this Yacht Master?

1 February 2010, 02:53 PM	#6
metal man Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: red Location: Katy Texas Watch: s/s sub 5513 Posts: 172	JJ , (don't want to go on the tosser list but) any chance it's a 168623. Looks like a mid size to me and that's quite a bit of wear for a 166 since they've only been out for a few years? A referance shot would be helpfull.

1 February 2010, 06:22 PM	#8
Zach.Mellinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: n/a Posts: 10	Thanks you for all of your comments. Like I mentioned, this is my first Rolex and I really know nothing about them so anything you can write about the watch will be helpful. Any idea what a used watch like this is worth?

2 February 2010, 03:23 AM	#9
Nairn1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 8,259	Looks fake to me...sorry!

2 February 2010, 04:56 AM	#10
1000ftSub "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Mike Location: Orlando Posts: 2,471	I don't think its real.... 1. Take a close look in photo 2, notice there is a serial number on the end link. I think on a YM like that the serial number should be inside the clasp.

2 February 2010, 05:28 AM	#12
Zach.Mellinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: n/a Posts: 10	I see what you mean about the Crown on the clasp.... That would be very disappointing to find out this watch is a fake.

2 February 2010, 09:38 AM	#14
Zach.Mellinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: n/a Posts: 10	Yes, I will have the watched looked at again. I left it back home while I am away for my last semester in college. Thank you all for your comments.

26 February 2010, 08:17 AM	#15
SPARTAN2161 Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Nick H. Location: Amherst, NY Watch: me flip Posts: 1,901	Thats deff fake. That crown on the clasp looks real crappy. Was the band ever replaced?

26 February 2010, 09:15 AM	#16
Zach.Mellinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: n/a Posts: 10	Not sure if the band has been replaced... I see what you mean about the crown. I will be back home at the end of March so I can pick up the watch and post some more detailed pictures.

2 March 2010, 03:14 AM	#18
RLXSTR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Donald Location: Texas Watch: Sub5513 / Choc1675 Posts: 826	Did the two Rolex dealers open the watch to review the movement? Did they also remove the band to review the serial number? Even though it may have the correct serial number, how it was engraved can be a tell-tale sign. We do not purchase any pre-owned Rolex's unless my Rolex technician reviews the watch, including movement before an offer is made. What I've seen so far, replica Daytona's are the number one fake that comes in the store, followed by the ladies DateJust. Be sure to ask the dealers how they verify authenticity. Eye-balling the watch isn't the professional way.

4 March 2010, 12:14 AM	#20
vaq129e4 Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Arizona Watch: GMT Master II Posts: 69	Can they just take the watch? If it is fake?

26 March 2010, 05:03 AM	#21
Zach.Mellinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: n/a Posts: 10	Hey everyone, I am finally back home and have the watch in my possesion now. I will have my friend take some better pictures for me for you all to look at it. I must be honest, I should have said my mother when I said I had taken the watch in to be looked at. So, within in the week I will have some better pictures and I will be taking the watch down to the Ben Bridge in Honolulu for myself.

26 March 2010, 08:46 AM	#22
Cato Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Land of the Lost Watch: 116610LN Posts: 2,201	Fake because: dial printing looks off crown on clasp looks dull bracelet links look too rounded Does the bezel turn in both directions?

26 March 2010, 11:22 AM	#23
Zach.Mellinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: n/a Posts: 10	Yes, bezel is bidirectional.

26 March 2010, 11:31 AM	#24
Zach.Mellinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: n/a Posts: 10	Talked to my mother, she said the person at Ben Bridge told her the watch had been refurbished. This could explain the band. Is it common to have a band replaced when having a watch refurbished? What generally takes place for refurbishment? Just depends on what is wrong I suppose. I appreciate all your help.

9 April 2010, 07:08 AM	#26
vtsnowplow "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: US Posts: 343	looks good to me. nice watch!

18 June 2010, 03:05 AM	#27
rolexyz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Indonesia Posts: 39	the bezel and watch body look real for me, don't know about bracelet

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)