Is Porshe GT3 bubble about to burst?

[Ghost410]

Originally Posted by kirksingleton

I can’t hang with you GT guys but I did buy a mint 993 c2 6 speed last week with 27k miles on it. Black on black. It was owned by a Dr. the last 17 years. Orig paint, not even a door ding!

Share some photos! I love P cars

[cgaites]

Originally Posted by GB-man

997.1 c2 would be my aim.

For $40-45K you one should be able to get into a higher mileage 997.2 C2. No IMS to worry about, and far lower incidence of bore scoring (though the 997.1 3.6 in the base Carrera seems to have a pretty low incidence relative to the 3.8 in the S). The 9A1 in the .2s has proven to be quite reliable to well over 100K miles.

Regarding the original topic of this thread, I'm starting to see 991.1 GT3s pretty close to $110K pop up on Rennlist from time to time. If you can live with PDK, then these seems like a fantastic deal.

[GB-man]

I hear you on that. Pretty much all p cars tank in value post 50k miles. Much smaller pool of buyers whether justified or not.

[chsu74]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I hear you on that. Pretty much all p cars tank in value post 50k miles. Much smaller pool of buyers whether justified or not.

Not older well maintained and setup aircooled cars and Mezger water cooled GT3s.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by chsu74

Not older well maintained and setup aircooled cars and Mezger water cooled GT3s.

Agree to disagree. The value difference is significant in my opinion even with those gems.

[M45]

I never understood the love for the GT3 unless you just live at the track.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by M45

I never understood the love for the GT3 unless you just live at the track.

I get the GT3. Similar to any other sports car with serious nuts. Even if it’s not a track car.

What I don’t get is the RS version. They are just so uncomfortable. Unless it’s a track car I don’t get it. And I also don’t get having a track car that costs that much. Unless of course it’s for a very serious driver.

[M45]

Originally Posted by superdog

I get the GT3. Similar to any other sports car with serious nuts. Even if it’s not a track car.

What I don’t get is the RS version. They are just so uncomfortable. Unless it’s a track car I don’t get it. And I also don’t get having a track car that costs that much. Unless of course it’s for a very serious driver.

See, I even feel the base GT3 is low slung compared to the Carreras and a harsh ride around town--that and all the aero kits are just begging to eat curb.

If I ever buy a 992 to replace my 991 it'd probably be a Carrera 4S without any fancy sport suspension or aero kits.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by M45

See, I even feel the base GT3 is low slung compared to the Carreras and a harsh ride around town--that and all the aero kits are just begging to eat curb.

If I ever buy a 992 to replace my 991 it'd probably be a Carrera 4S without any fancy sport suspension or aero kits.

Hard to argue that logic. Makes sense.

[Tricolore66]

Unless the car has LWB seats it's not harder to get in/out of than a regular Carrera. Most GT3's have front-end lift option so clearance isn't really any more of an issue than a regular Carrera. The front lip on the GT cars is the only part that will rub, and it's just a black plastic wear item that can be replaced in 5 minutes for $250, as opposed to a regular Carrera that has a painted bumper that can be damaged at a far greater cost.

The ride is quite a bit firmer than a regular 911, but there's a module made by DSC Sport that replaces the factory PASM and gives the car a far more compliant ride in standard mode.

Originally Posted by M45

See, I even feel the base GT3 is low slung compared to the Carreras and a harsh ride around town--that and all the aero kits are just begging to eat curb.

If I ever buy a 992 to replace my 991 it'd probably be a Carrera 4S without any fancy sport suspension or aero kits.

[TMEwatch11]

No.the new GT3’s entry price will go up definitely!

[chsu74]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Agree to disagree. The value difference is significant in my opinion even with those gems.

Not sure what you mean. All GT3s(including 15 year old ones) and AC cars trade at least 65-70% or higher of their original MSRP.

These run of the mill high production water cooled 911s are depreciating assets when bought new. The only value buy is a 07-08 turbo right now. Even 01-05 turbos are passing their value proposition.

I have been lucky with the Pcar brand. Have not lost money on these purchases including a Cayenne Diesel. CD was bought at $38K OTD and then VW cut me a $10K check with warranty up to 10 years or 120K. My AC 911s all have market value twice the purchase prices today.

Its no different than a buying decision between a new Hublot or 5 digit GMT 5 yrs ago. Some people are OK with the depreciation because its worth it.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by chsu74

Not sure what you mean. All GT3s(including 15 year old ones) and AC cars trade at least 65-70% or higher of their original MSRP.

These run of the mill high production water cooled 911s are depreciating assets when bought new. The only value buy is a 07-08 turbo right now. Even 01-05 turbos are passing their value proposition.

I have been lucky with the Pcar brand. Have not lost money on these purchases including a Cayenne Diesel. CD was bought at $38K OTD and then VW cut me a $10K check with warranty up to 10 years or 120K. My AC 911s all have market value twice the purchase prices today.

Its no different than a buying decision between a new Hublot or 5 digit GMT 5 yrs ago. Some people are OK with the depreciation because its worth it.

I mean what I said verbatim. Modern p cars take a noteworthy value hit above 50k miles whether justified or not.