Horology House fake Daytona audio interview with Shohaib the man who bought the watch

[SmileyKot]

Many thanks to Shohaib and Rob. You guys, along with the moderators here are true gents.

It is truly disgusting that Chris would stoop down to such depths ie knowingly ordering fakes. I truly wonder how many people he has defrauded? The full extent of his con needs to be uncovered.

[APforlife]

Wow so he's ordered fakes before it seems?

This just continues to get deeper & deeper...

Nonetheless great podcast even after reading chatlog & almost all the pages on TRF.

Hope justice is brought to this guy.

[smym18]

I mean, you can't really be surprised this guy knowingly (allegedly) ordered fakes, can you?

[dkmajm]

This has all got so crazy, talk about fact stranger than fiction!. This, the ginault expose, the guy selling fake vintage watches, you couldn’t make all this stuff up, Home and away has nothing on the watch industry exploits.

[Lol-x]

I wouldn't be surprised if there is $250,000 still in the field and owing by Chris.

https://www.cdpp.gov.au/crimes-we-pr.../general-fraud

The Australian Federal Police have a special internet crime unit to deal with crimes perpetuated over the internet.

[anonymousmoose]

Having read every page on the original thread, I'm keen to listen to the interview tomorrow morning as I drive to work.

This is of particular interest as someone living in the area where the scams allegedly occurred. I've never ran into the guy though.

I'm very glad TRF exposed this. I HH got me scared buying used. But I'll get over it and will be even more vigilant than I have been in the past. I think the max I ever spend was about $1600USD from a non-AD private sale years ago and a bit more at a face to face deal. Both worked out well.

I really like the way TRF manages their classified section. I've never owned a Rolex but a big fan of this forum. The $1600USD watch was from a classified here.

[Spartacus]

Superb. Thank you, Rikki and Shohaib for taking the time.

Thank you, moderators, TRF for preserving the information and providing the platform.

[bench36]

THANK YOU Shohaib and Rob for bringing this to light, and Rikki for the interview. An occurrence like this is one for the history(forum) books. I wonder how deep this rabbit hole goes...

I'm sure it has provided a lot of insight for buyers out there to be vigilant, especially when dealing with tens of thousands in a transaction. The phrase Buy the Seller didn't work this time I guess? :( Sad Sad Sad

[anonymousmoose]

I listend to the podcast. Excellent interview.

[barkington]

Originally Posted by samuel019

Rob,

Thank you brother for what you did for the watch community and having all the patience in the world. I got absolutely disgusted by what he did to so many. All the while stumbling upon on Bark and Jack video saying that on “face value” everything didn’t seem that bad before then bringing up some of the points about the fake pictures etc. I mean how can someone say not that bad period? He screen shot your avatar and posted it on his video before saying we all hide behind our avatars.

I just thought in my opinion he should’ve ripped HH to death or said nothing at all.

Just my 2 cents

“Just my 2 cents” more like “just my 2 brain cells”

I did rip HH to death, I spoke in detail about his “scam”, far more detail than anyone else.

It’s comments and attitudes like yours that bring this forum down. You either fail to comprehend English, or purposely spout utter rubbish.

My comment about the situation not being too bad on face value is the fact a high value transaction taking a long time isn’t unheard of. A watch going missing isn’t unheard of. And a fake watch being sent in place of a real one isn’t all the far fetched considering the seller is a Youtube who made videos about fake watches, therefore we know he has at least 1 fake watch. That was my point. Most people managed to understand it, well done for being part of the minority.

Regarding the use of Rob’s photos and post, all of this was cleared before hand.

Thank you for watching the video, but next time either watch it all and listen or don’t watch at all.


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[imgook]

All good fellas. We are all on the same team here. Re-watch the video Samuel, B & J did a very professional and interesting way of presenting the facts for people fill in the blanks themselves.

[Ttnpt00]

Originally Posted by imgook

All good fellas. We are all on the same team here. Re-watch the video Samuel, B & J did a very professional and interesting way of presenting the facts for people fill in the blanks themselves.

Agreed.

[VonSlingshot]

Originally Posted by Jules944

Apologies, but I don't really understand this "Fake" allegation.
Do the sales / DHL tracks (that go from HK to Perth) some what proof that all those packages were bought from a Fake seller?

If so then this would be of course quite disgusting...

The OP said he cannot divulge more info of that DHL spreadsheet.
After all that has been proven, you really feel you are entitled to more “proof”?

Sheesh....

Troll post is trolly.

And imgook would not post that info unless it could be backed.
Sigh.

[Gtecko]

Thanks for sharing !! I really enjoyed this !

[SS Oyster]

Imagine how many people out there who bought over the past few years from Chris (HH) have a massive pit in their stomach, almost scared to have their beautiful Rolex checked to see if they’ve been wearing a fake.

Has anyone bought a real Rolex from Chris?


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[77T]

Originally Posted by VonSlingshot

The OP said he cannot divulge more info of that DHL spreadsheet.

After all that has been proven, you really feel you are entitled to more “proof”?



Sheesh....



Troll post is trolly.



And imgook would not post that info unless it could be backed.

Sigh.

I’m neutral so keep it rational.

I found no delivery notes in DHL tracking for any of those numbers.

2 are not in the database and 1 showed this:


I believe the prior facts merit the investigations. Just that this data seems sketchy.


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[alphadweller]

Great interview. Shoahib is a class act considering what he's been through.

Chris Essery prides himself in one of the whatsapp conversations of having done more than 200 sales. If true, Shoahib's testimony and other 9 or 10 victims in contact with him could be the tip of the iceberg. We could potentially have many more buyers affected. Some might never realise.

The sheer size of this is quite scary.

[jjbrothers]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt9...H_WKZIw/videos

[CorradoBrit]

Originally Posted by jjbrothers

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt9...H_WKZIw/videos

Wow. The audacity of this scammer beggars belief

[erhein]

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Wow. The audacity of this scammer beggars belief

Comments are turned off.

[smym18]

Originally Posted by jjbrothers

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt9...H_WKZIw/videos

He probably thinks all the madness died down now that this massive thread is somewhat buried. If only people could have behaved in there. Maybe mods can bump it every couple of days?

[Jim Smyth]

Has he ever offered an explanation or his side of the story anywhere other than that initial one where he admitted he sent a fake watch?

[alphadweller]

Originally Posted by Jim Smyth

Has he ever offered an explanation or his side of the story anywhere?

Yep...
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[monsters]

...and now his channel is back up

[jinikari01]

the man gotta pay his bills... now that he can't scam people.
youtube channel is all that he's got. throw the man a bone and click and subscribe.
and if you like. don't forget to smash that like button. LOL

[SydR]

Interesting that the “how to spot a fake...” video is now missing from his channel .

[kev1nchoi]

Let's all report his channel.

[Birder]

Originally Posted by erhein

Comments are turned off.

Most of the 66K members wont even know if he did anything. So he is basically trying to let it cool down on its own, and disabled the comments so no one can alert others.

I still wonder what brand will give a scammer their watch for review, and then what is the credibility of what he says now that we know and he admitted (on his insta post) that he is a liar.

[collarcity]

Older videos still allow comments last I checked. I reported his channel for fraud.

[77T]

Originally Posted by monsters

...and now his channel is back up

Yeah - that remorse period didn’t last long...


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