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Old 16 February 2020, 11:17 PM   #1
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Rolex GMT 2 and SUB, Fake or real? Auction

Hello Everyone,

I am considering to buy at an auction those 2 watches, but I don't know if they are fake or real. What do you guys think?

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Old 16 February 2020, 11:27 PM   #2
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BLNR on an oyster, shouldn’t have a crown in between Swiss Made and LVc bezel looks iffy.

So my guess fake.
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Old 16 February 2020, 11:29 PM   #3
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In fact the more I look, the more is wrong with watches, paperwork and boxes.

The one year guarantee is more than 10 years old.
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Old 16 February 2020, 11:33 PM   #4
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Terrible fakes. Screw down crowns are way off, rehauts are too deep. Papers are hilarious. They mixed new with vintage.
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Old 16 February 2020, 11:40 PM   #5
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terrible fakes. Screw down crowns are way off, rehauts are too deep. Papers are hilarious. They mixed new with vintage.
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Old 16 February 2020, 11:40 PM   #6
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Oh my god! I didn't see the Rolex crown between Swiss made! that's very fake! In both watches!
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Old 16 February 2020, 11:41 PM   #7
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Not absolutely clear but the serial number on the BLNR appears to be seven digits, beginning with an "M". If I'm seeing that right, that is not correct. Outer box doesn't look correct either, should be more of a beige color. Warranty paper's all wrong, "One year warranty"? Crown doesn't look right to me on the LVC either. I think, coupled with the previously mentioned Oyster bracelet vice Jubilee on the newer BLNR these are a couple I'd stay far away from.
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Old 16 February 2020, 11:48 PM   #8
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the marker on the S from Swiss made is out of alignment right? I will contact the seller to get more pics
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Old 16 February 2020, 11:48 PM   #9
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Old 16 February 2020, 11:54 PM   #10
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the marker on the S from Swiss made is out of alignment right? I will contact the seller to get more pics
Why bother? They’re both horrible fakes
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Old 16 February 2020, 11:54 PM   #11
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Rolex ever since offered 5 year warranty? Never 1?
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Old 17 February 2020, 12:18 AM   #12
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Old 17 February 2020, 12:25 AM   #13
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I will contact the seller to get more pics
Why ?

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Old 17 February 2020, 12:35 AM   #14
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Fakes.

The hologram sticker only on fakes, not Rolex.

The old BLNR on oyster didn’t have a new movement yet (diamond in between Swiss Made)


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Old 17 February 2020, 12:38 AM   #15
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Both are 100% fake and it isn't even close.
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Old 17 February 2020, 12:42 AM   #16
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What is the auction at? $200 USD?
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Old 17 February 2020, 01:25 AM   #17
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Old 17 February 2020, 01:26 AM   #18
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There’s your answer then... Mods??


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That auction house should be ashamed selling these horrible fakes
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Old 17 February 2020, 01:56 AM   #20
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What made you think someone would auction real Rolexes at $300?

Is it an eBay auction perhaps?


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You thought you were going to get a genuine BLNR and Hulk for $300?

That should have told you straight away. I’m not even an expert but that paperwork looks garbage.
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Look great! Double crowned dial — hugely rare!


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The case machining around endlinks is enough for me. Just a pair of nasties
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That auction house should be ashamed selling these horrible fakes
Exactly!
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Old 17 February 2020, 07:18 AM   #25
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They are Brazilians!! The auction is next week, but bad fakes!
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Old 17 February 2020, 07:22 AM   #26
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As a Brazilian, I can tell you that there are a lot of fake watches being sold in Brazil, never at ADs of course. Like anywhere else you need to be careful.


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Old 17 February 2020, 07:25 AM   #27
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They are Brazilians!! The auction is next week, but bad fakes!


And why in the name of God are you bidding on an auction outside of your country of origin? Import taxes, insurance, etc.... not doubting you - but your post and ensuing questions surely leave a lot of questions unanswered IMHO.


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And why in the name of God are you bidding on an auction outside of your country of origin? Import taxes, insurance, etc.... not doubting you -
Uhh?? He's in Brazil bidding on a pair of fakes offered by a Brazilian auction House.
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Old 17 February 2020, 08:13 AM   #29
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A lot of money changes hands in the fake world.
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