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18 June 2018, 07:47 AM | #31 | |
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So far as the guys have said I find AP to be nothing but professional and courteous so I don't envisage this being a problem, unlike the Rolex ADs which have too many unprofessional day-jobbers working there. |
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18 June 2018, 07:54 AM | #32 |
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I need to get your autograph. Might have more resale value than AP.
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18 June 2018, 07:55 AM | #33 | |
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My point is each brand need to have a popular piece that is practically attainable, not what we heard about 3 years, 5 years or even 10 years waitlist. Telling this to first time customer for each and every popular piece simply turn them off the brand, with potential long term consequences. Waitlist can always be adjusted with supply and I am sure if they want, they have no problem actually to meet the demand.
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18 June 2018, 08:25 AM | #34 |
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Beverly Hills boutique is awful. They put me on the list for a boutique only watch (otherwise would have gotten from my AD), took a $20k deposit and confirmed I was #1 on their list in writing. I wait 4 months before inquiring and they go dark. Finally after 2 more months they say “sorry, you are not on our list anymore as you need to have bought a tourbillon to get this watch”. I tell them “ok, I’m reasonable, can you get me X, Y, or Z watch instead to make this right?” And their answer was an instant “no”. Not even a “let me talk to my manager and figure something out”. Just an FU.
I’ve had another AD pull the same with a Daytona and am just eliminating them off my list. It makes no business sense for them: I’m a young guy with a lot of watch-buying years ahead of me, a high disposable income, and a history of spending 6 figures on watches. You’d think ADs would want me as a customer. Guess not. I literally cannot find an AD who wants my money and relationship. |
18 June 2018, 11:40 AM | #35 | |
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Ben I’ve always been very courteous to you online but I feel recently all you do is talk down on AP. To be honest, after reading your comments, right now if you were my client too I’d make you wait a bit longer just for sport, you can’t talk down on a brand online and then expect the best service. It must be a very small world because even I’ve heard that you threw your toys out over not receiving the openworks when you wanted it. You don’t know anything about my friend so I wouldn’t continue down that road. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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18 June 2018, 11:49 AM | #36 | |
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It's the ONLY AP thought was a 'must have'. Good feedback on the ruthenium........ if the dial isn't easy to read, it may make it a no go, and I'll have to give silver serious consideration. |
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18 June 2018, 11:53 AM | #37 | |
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No, I haven't had the chance to try one on, but I can get either the 15400 silver dial for sure (not sure about the new Ruthenium), and I can also get the 26331 blue dial. The latter may fill the trifecta of getting an AP, a chrono that can be dressed up if needed, and a blue dial. If I go silver or Ruthenium 15400, then I would either do the IWC Portuguese classic or the Daytona, when the latter finally becomes available. |
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18 June 2018, 11:55 AM | #38 | |
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18 June 2018, 11:57 AM | #39 | |
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And los angeles/beverly hills might be the toughest of all the boutiques to gain traction with because of the especially high demand for AP there, coupled with spending power of the clients. I definitely need to see the ROC in person. I know the service costs for it will be higher than for the 15400, but that's not a deal breaker. Any differences in reliability and/or accuracy between the 2 movements in the 15400 and the 26331? And I agree about resale changing (holding more steady) in the coming years for the 26331, given that even that model is going to get more difficult to obtain. |
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18 June 2018, 12:01 PM | #40 |
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Why do you say the dimensions are wrong on the 15400?
I was told the lug to lug width on the 15400 is the same as the 26331. I did find the 15400 gold turbillon I tried on to be a bit unusual for a 41mm (hard to articulate), and I've been told the 26331 wears a bit more true to size......as opposed to the 15400, which wears rather large for a 41mm. Is that what you mean? |
18 June 2018, 12:05 PM | #41 | |
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The relationship I'm building with the AD for AP's/IWC/Panerai is separate from the more other, more local AD with whom I already have a good relationship with Rolex (and they carry Patek as well). If I did get the Daytona in the next few months, it would likely go in a safe, only to be sold in about a year or so, as I don't want to burn bridges by flipping it immediately.....Unless of course, I fall in love with the SS Daytona once I see it |
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18 June 2018, 12:11 PM | #42 | |
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If so, that could be a deal breaker for me. |
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18 June 2018, 12:17 PM | #43 | |
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I won't be holding my breath or doing business with them moving forward. As others have wisely advised on this thread, I'll work with my regional AD on getting either the 15400 silver or ruthenium dial or the 26331 blue dial, and maybe in time flip the Daytona for a 15202/15400 blue dial with a TS. |
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18 June 2018, 12:25 PM | #44 |
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I would just get the ROC from your current AD...who you have a relationship, who is getting you the daytona and build on that relationship. Spending $$$$ at the boutique in BH makes no sense....they probably dont evenc are...as they have many more big bigger spenders to cater too. stick to your AD.
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18 June 2018, 02:35 PM | #45 | |
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18 June 2018, 02:40 PM | #46 | |
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18 June 2018, 08:35 PM | #49 |
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No, rather the opposite, there is a lot dial real estate on the 41mm and the subdials fill up the dial better and make it wear smaller for me.
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18 June 2018, 08:37 PM | #50 |
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BH boutique sounds like London Rolex ADs, if you have too much over-demand, manners and courtesy go out of the window, luxury watch brands don't approve of these human flaws and so need to be complained to and name names.
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18 June 2018, 11:50 PM | #51 | |
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18 June 2018, 11:54 PM | #52 | |
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In any case im doing the AD circuit either Friday or this weekend to "try on watches" with my Pepsi
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19 June 2018, 12:08 AM | #53 | |
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I definitely need to try it on and see how it fits relative to the 15400 |
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19 June 2018, 03:31 AM | #54 |
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The reason why all this nasty business is going on with luxury brands like AP is because they are just giving us what we want.
Luxury good buyers WANT limited availability. AP is simply providing that in an expert fashion. Good job AP, the plan is working perfectly. |
19 June 2018, 03:41 AM | #55 |
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haha, I have had that exact same experience in that same boutique. Different salesperson though. Not rude, but a bit cold and I clearly got the message they had more important customers to sell watches too.
It's ok, I was still able to source a blue dial 15400 from TRF! |
19 June 2018, 03:56 AM | #56 |
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Seems like a fair amount of us have had similar experiences with The BH boutique. My experience was pretty much the same too.
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19 June 2018, 04:29 AM | #57 |
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I ordered my 15450 over the phone from the BH boutique and so far it’s been a great experience. During my first call I did feel like they were kinda rushing me to decide whether or not I was going to make the purchase (which like others said I assume it’s because of the location they actually have a good amount of potential clients at any time), but they were never rude or disrespectful or anything like that, just made it clear that if I was interested it should happen fast or I wouldn’t be able to get it in the timeframe I was asking for. And the person I’ve been talking with has been great. Always helpful with all my questions and courteous. Sad to hear of so many bad experiences from the same place…
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19 June 2018, 04:39 AM | #58 |
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Strange times indeed. I purchased my 15400 blue dial late last year, it's amazing how much the market has changed in so little time.
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19 June 2018, 07:55 AM | #59 |
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Just saw this post. Op, please read my private message.
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19 June 2018, 10:15 PM | #60 |
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Good timing, look at the grey prices to comfort you as you watch Brazil struggle in the WC . We English don't have to tho, doing well for once!
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