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Old 28 July 2020, 01:28 PM   #1
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Flat sapphire crystals

Rolex incorporated the flat sapphire crystal decades ago, one of the
differences from the concave or domed plexi crystals as on my 1680 red Submariner. In a 14060 M or 16610 Submariner, which I also use as modern tool watches-the crystal creates a flash reflection. My line of reasoning is there must have been some fitment logic in Rolex using a flat crystal instead of a domed crystal.
For fly fishermen, hunters and the military-the reflective flat crystal is a serious annoyance in what would otherwise be a sound design. Steinhart and other
watches have made domed sapphire crystals that do not emit a reflection-so it can be done.

I think I will be contacting Montres Rolex, S A in Geneve and see if they might
be willing to respond to my concern over this issue. The worst that they may respond with would be:
"This is the way we make them".
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Old 1 August 2020, 09:02 PM   #2
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Good luck, they won't care about your issue.
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Yes, domed sapphires are doable

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Old 1 August 2020, 09:53 PM   #4
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Yes, domed sapphires are doable

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Old 1 August 2020, 09:55 PM   #5
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Good luck, they won't care about your issue.
Agreed, it’s a non issue anyway.

Any hunter or military operative concerned about giving away their position via light reflections will have everything that needs to be covered up, covered up.

The onus is on them, not the watchmaker (brand) to ensure they aren’t spotted by enemy combatants or their quarry.
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Old 2 August 2020, 01:52 AM   #6
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Agreed, it’s a non issue anyway.

Any hunter or military operative concerned about giving away their position via light reflections will have everything that needs to be covered up, covered up.

The onus is on them, not the watchmaker (brand) to ensure they aren’t spotted by enemy combatants or their quarry.
lol Why would someone in special ops even wear a luxury watch for a mission..
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Old 2 August 2020, 02:49 AM   #7
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lol Why would someone in special ops even wear a luxury watch for a mission..

You’ve got a lot of experience with this then, I suppose ?


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Old 14 August 2020, 12:09 AM   #8
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Rolex incorporated the flat sapphire crystal decades ago, one of the
differences from the concave or domed plexi crystals as on my 1680 red Submariner. In a 14060 M or 16610 Submariner, which I also use as modern tool watches-the crystal creates a flash reflection. My line of reasoning is there must have been some fitment logic in Rolex using a flat crystal instead of a domed crystal.
For fly fishermen, hunters and the military-the reflective flat crystal is a serious annoyance in what would otherwise be a sound design. Steinhart and other
watches have made domed sapphire crystals that do not emit a reflection-so it can be done.

I think I will be contacting Montres Rolex, S A in Geneve and see if they might
be willing to respond to my concern over this issue. The worst that they may respond with would be:
"This is the way we make them".

Is is safe to fly fish with a Rolex on? Besides giving away your position I would’ve thought the jerky action involved in casting would damage the movement over time.

Before going on Special Ops I would brush the PCLs and remove any diamonds.


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Old 18 August 2020, 07:14 AM   #9
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only wear a rolex sport watch in church; otherwise wash it daily and keep it in a safe...
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Old 18 August 2020, 08:17 AM   #10
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I weqar my 16610LV fly fishing, down the paddock, in the shed banging and welding away, always long sleeves though.
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Old 24 August 2020, 05:33 AM   #11
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lol Why would someone in special ops even wear a luxury watch for a mission..
Not special ops, but my father wore his Rolex Explorer through two tours of Vietnam Nam.

If I had had one I would have worn it in Iraq and Afghanistan instead of the Seiko 6309 Diver I did wear.
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Old 25 August 2020, 12:17 PM   #12
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Rolex incorporated the flat sapphire crystal decades ago, one of the
differences from the concave or domed plexi crystals as on my 1680 red Submariner. In a 14060 M or 16610 Submariner, which I also use as modern tool watches-the crystal creates a flash reflection. My line of reasoning is there must have been some fitment logic in Rolex using a flat crystal instead of a domed crystal.
For fly fishermen, hunters and the military-the reflective flat crystal is a serious annoyance in what would otherwise be a sound design. Steinhart and other
watches have made domed sapphire crystals that do not emit a reflection-so it can be done.

I think I will be contacting Montres Rolex, S A in Geneve and see if they might
be willing to respond to my concern over this issue. The worst that they may respond with would be:
"This is the way we make them".
The flat sapphire crystal is there for the same reason as the polished areas on the bracelet and case. Rolex designs their watches to be shiny.
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Old 25 August 2020, 12:21 PM   #13
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Not special ops, but my father wore his Rolex Explorer through two tours of Vietnam Nam.

If I had had one I would have worn it in Iraq and Afghanistan instead of the Seiko 6309 Diver I did wear.
In your father’s days, a Rolex was probably the least expensive durable wrist watch one could buy. These days, you can get a G-Shock.
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Old 31 August 2020, 12:25 AM   #14
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Rolex incorporated the flat sapphire crystal decades ago, one of the
differences from the concave or domed plexi crystals as on my 1680 red Submariner. In a 14060 M or 16610 Submariner, which I also use as modern tool watches-the crystal creates a flash reflection. My line of reasoning is there must have been some fitment logic in Rolex using a flat crystal instead of a domed crystal.
For fly fishermen, hunters and the military-the reflective flat crystal is a serious annoyance in what would otherwise be a sound design. Steinhart and other
watches have made domed sapphire crystals that do not emit a reflection-so it can be done.

I think I will be contacting Montres Rolex, S A in Geneve and see if they might
be willing to respond to my concern over this issue. The worst that they may respond with would be:
"This is the way we make them".
I would’ve thought the jerky action involved in casting would damage the movement over time
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Old 31 August 2020, 05:05 PM   #15
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Rolex incorporated the flat sapphire crystal decades ago, one of the
differences from the concave or domed plexi crystals as on my 1680 red Submariner. In a 14060 M or 16610 Submariner, which I also use as modern tool watches-the crystal creates a flash reflection. My line of reasoning is there must have been some fitment logic in Rolex using a flat crystal instead of a domed crystal.
For fly fishermen, hunters and the military-the reflective flat crystal is a serious annoyance in what would otherwise be a sound design. Steinhart and other
watches have made domed sapphire crystals that do not emit a reflection-so it can be done.

I think I will be contacting Montres Rolex, S A in Geneve and see if they might
be willing to respond to my concern over this issue. The worst that they may respond with would be:
"This is the way we make them".
Why not just buy a Rolex DeepSea, they’ve got a domed sapphire crystal.
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Old 2 September 2020, 01:56 AM   #16
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Why not just buy a Rolex DeepSea, they’ve got a domed sapphire crystal.
ok i will buy it
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Old 5 September 2020, 01:47 PM   #17
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This is a very good point. Another reason I don't like modern Rolex. That flash is super annoying. They should definitely produce domed sapphire crystals that have UV coating on them. I'm surprised anyone purchases modern Rolex frankly. They should start serving customer requests better.
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Old 5 September 2020, 07:38 PM   #18
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Rolex incorporated the flat sapphire crystal decades ago, one of the
differences from the concave or domed plexi crystals as on my 1680 red Submariner. In a 14060 M or 16610 Submariner, which I also use as modern tool watches-the crystal creates a flash reflection. My line of reasoning is there must have been some fitment logic in Rolex using a flat crystal instead of a domed crystal.
For fly fishermen, hunters and the military-the reflective flat crystal is a serious annoyance in what would otherwise be a sound design. Steinhart and other
watches have made domed sapphire crystals that do not emit a reflection-so it can be done.

I think I will be contacting Montres Rolex, S A in Geneve and see if they might
be willing to respond to my concern over this issue. The worst that they may respond with would be:
"This is the way we make them".

Just to cut for you a corner,
Rolex execs were asked why the design of their crystals are so and why no AR coating utilized on it ,the answer was that Rolex considers the sapphire crystal as an integrated part of their watch design-saying simple it s designed so to attract attention and reflects the light .
Just FYI Rolex not producing so called tool watches since decades (those are made by Casio called Gshock),Rolex watches are high end luxury timepieces and those watches has nothing to do with the intention of their development in the 50ies ,sixties.Basically the different names ,and heritage isn t more than marketing. Great watches,capable to any task but these modern pieces are rather jewellery than equipments-and i m saying this as a fan ,and w/o anything negative tone in my mind.
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