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Old 4 May 2022, 07:20 AM   #1
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P.9010 vs. P.900

As a new guy to the brand, which would be the superior movement? Both seem widely used. Read the Perezscope blog and it appears the P.900 is based on the Cartier 1847MC, not sure about the other?
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Old 4 May 2022, 07:41 PM   #2
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Both calibers are ValFleurier creations but the P.9010 is exclusive to Panerai. The P.900 on the other hand is a downgraded version of Baume & Mercier's "Baumatic" which in turn is based on Cartier's 1847MC. The P.900 has only three days of power reserve whereas the "Baumatic" has five. The Panerai version has now been further downgraded by removing the hacking seconds mechanism and any discernbile finishing.

There seems to be a push within Richemont to use the "Baumatic" in as many of their brands/watches as possible. The caliber is basically Richemont's very own ETA automatic movement.


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Both calibers are ValFleurier creations but the P.9010 is exclusive to Panerai. The P.900 on the other hand is a downgraded version of Baume & Mercier's "Baumatic" which in turn is based on Cartier's 1847MC. The P.900 has only three days of power reserve whereas the "Baumatic" has five. The Panerai version has now been further downgraded by removing the hacking seconds mechanism and any discernbile finishing.

There seems to be a push within Richemont to use the "Baumatic" in as many of their brands/watches as possible. The caliber is basically Richemont's very own ETA automatic movement.


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Old 5 May 2022, 03:44 AM   #4
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Thanks Jose! So I take it would the P.900 be more of an entry level movement compared to the P.9010 then?
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Old 5 May 2022, 08:53 AM   #5
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Thanks Jose! So I take it would the P.900 be more of an entry level movement compared to the P.9010 then?
Absolutely. The P.900, or OPXXXIV as it was called before, was initially only used in 38mm Luminor Due dress watches. Now they are using it even in 44mm Submersibles. Keep in mind the 44mm Luminor has the P.9010 instead. The direction is imo very clear. The P.900 could replace the P.9010 completely at some point.


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Old 5 May 2022, 12:23 PM   #6
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Absolutely. The P.900, or OPXXXIV as it was called before, was initially only used in 38mm Luminor Due dress watches. Now they are using it even in 44mm Submersibles. Keep in mind the 44mm Luminor has the P.9010 instead. The direction is imo very clear. The P.900 could replace the P.9010 completely at some point.


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Appreciate the help. Considering the new green submersible so good to know. Had a Santos with the 1847MC.
I have a watch on order (PAM01298) with the P.9100, is this subject to the same downgrades of the P.9010? Seems like an interesting movement to me with center seconds and center jumping minute for the chronograph.
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Both calibers are ValFleurier creations but the P.9010 is exclusive to Panerai. The P.900 on the other hand is a downgraded version of Baume & Mercier's "Baumatic" which in turn is based on Cartier's 1847MC. The P.900 has only three days of power reserve whereas the "Baumatic" has five. The Panerai version has now been further downgraded by removing the hacking seconds mechanism and any discernbile finishing.

There seems to be a push within Richemont to use the "Baumatic" in as many of their brands/watches as possible. The caliber is basically Richemont's very own ETA automatic movement.


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Your article was very good, thank you for the information
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