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simonthepilot · 8 March 2023, 06:04 PM

Dear WIS-friends,

I am in the process of purchasing a lovely Patek 5167A that is in mint condition and newly serviced. I have not seen it in the flesh, but looks really good.

Make no misstake, I'm paying hefty premium here, but with consideration of the age of the watch (2009) I still think it's a decent deal. However, last night I started to think about if the age of the watch can be a factor in terms of the longevity of the dial (don't want any patina on a modern sport watch).

Would you have any issues other the fact that the age of the watch will be considered if and when I try to sell it in the distant future?

DonLee · 8 March 2023, 07:09 PM

It's freshly serviced, I see no reason why the age would be a factor.

Rushne · 8 March 2023, 07:23 PM

Absolutely no issue. I would be very surprised if there was any kind of petina.

My Seamaster is from 2009 and shows no signs of sun damage or anything of that sort. It has only been serviced once about 6 years ago. Runs great.

Freshly serviced 5167 shouldn't be a problem what so ever.

seadubs · 8 March 2023, 10:24 PM

How much are you paying? I wouldnt buy such an old one unless it was a really good deal

simonthepilot · 8 March 2023, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by seadubs

How much are you paying? I wouldnt buy such an old one unless it was a really good deal

Paying app. 80% av market price

DavidSB · 9 March 2023, 12:19 AM

I would not be concerned. Bought mine 10 years ago, wore it every day for years, serviced once, keeps great time and any parts with excessive wear will be replaced at future service.

vitalsigns · 9 March 2023, 12:27 AM

No issue. Inspect it properly for visual imperfections and factor in a full service in the price you're willing to pay (if not recently serviced). The watch is made to last lifetimes, with periodic services.

Tan · 9 March 2023, 12:36 AM

No issues on a freshly serviced piece.

Benzsiam · 9 March 2023, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by simonthepilot

Paying app. 80% av market price

14 years old watch at the price of 80% of average market price, I would rather pay 100% market price for the latest one in great condition.

SL BRABUS · 9 March 2023, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DonLee

It's freshly serviced, I see no reason why the age would be a factor.

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Originally Posted by Rushne

Absolutely no issue. I would be very surprised if there was any kind of petina.

My Seamaster is from 2009 and shows no signs of sun damage or anything of that sort. It has only been serviced once about 6 years ago. Runs great.

Freshly serviced 5167 shouldn't be a problem what so ever.

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Originally Posted by DavidSB

I would not be concerned. Bought mine 10 years ago, wore it every day for years, serviced once, keeps great time and any parts with excessive wear will be replaced at future service.

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Originally Posted by vitalsigns

No issue. Inspect it properly for visual imperfections and factor in a full service in the price you're willing to pay (if not recently serviced). The watch is made to last lifetimes, with periodic services.

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Originally Posted by Tan

No issues on a freshly serviced piece.

This.....^^^.....

Since it a 2009 timepiece, if it had the Geneva Seal it a plus plus for me......

cascavel · 9 March 2023, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SL BRABUS

This.....^^^.....

Since it a 2009 timepiece, if it had the Geneva Seal it a plus plus for me......

Exactly. Nothing to be concerned about. I'm assuming that by "serviced" you mean by Patek.

SL BRABUS · 9 March 2023, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cascavel

Exactly. Nothing to be concerned about. I'm assuming that by "serviced" you mean by Patek.

Yes, serviced by Patek...^^^...

What I meant, if it got the Geneva Seal movement is a bonus for me.... instead of the Patek Seal movement...

Sorry for the confused...

dannyp · 10 March 2023, 10:26 AM

Wow, did I ever misread the thread title!!

I thought it was about someone buying their 14-year-old child a Patek

Nachum · 10 March 2023, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Benzsiam

14 years old watch at the price of 80% of average market price, I would rather pay 100% market price for the latest one in great condition.

It’s funny how collecting works. Because for me, it’s not even close — I’d much rather own a freshly serviced, Geneva-sealed 5167A at a 20% discount to market price.

Nicely done, OP! Enjoy it.

gqmagic · 10 March 2023, 03:39 PM

I got this in May 2008, the original strap as developed somewhat of a Patina if you compared it to a new Composite strap, the dial looks like it did 15 years ago.

l_chissle · 10 March 2023, 05:43 PM

Personally would be totally fine with the watch, but would swap out for a new strap.

thetinkercompanies · 12 March 2023, 12:47 PM

In terms of resale value, the age of the watch can be a factor, but again, it depends on its condition and how well it has been cared for. A well-maintained and serviced watch from 2009 could still be highly desirable to collectors, especially if it is a popular model like the Patek 5167A.

8 March 2023, 06:04 PM	#1
simonthepilot "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EU Posts: 69	Would you have issue with buying a 14-year old Patek? Dear WIS-friends, I am in the process of purchasing a lovely Patek 5167A that is in mint condition and newly serviced. I have not seen it in the flesh, but looks really good. Make no misstake, I'm paying hefty premium here, but with consideration of the age of the watch (2009) I still think it's a decent deal. However, last night I started to think about if the age of the watch can be a factor in terms of the longevity of the dial (don't want any patina on a modern sport watch). Would you have any issues other the fact that the age of the watch will be considered if and when I try to sell it in the distant future? __________________ Current: Patek Philippe Aquanaut 5167A \| Rolex Submariner LV Starbucks \| IWC Big Pilot 46 \| Omega Speedmaster Moonphase (Two counter)

8 March 2023, 07:23 PM	#3
Rushne 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Watch: White 116500LN Posts: 864	Absolutely no issue. I would be very surprised if there was any kind of petina. My Seamaster is from 2009 and shows no signs of sun damage or anything of that sort. It has only been serviced once about 6 years ago. Runs great. Freshly serviced 5167 shouldn't be a problem what so ever. __________________ Omega: Seamaster Professional 300M 2220.80.00 Rolex: Daytona White Dial 116500LN Rolex: Sky-Dweller Blue Dial Jubilee 336934 Rolex: DateJust 36 Roman White Dial Oyster 126234 Rolex: OP 36 Celebration Dial 126000 Panerai: PAM 422 Patek Philippe: Aquanaut 5167A A. Lange & Söhne: 1815 Annual Calendar @mechanicaltom Stolen: IWC Portuguese 500107 Case number 3853222

8 March 2023, 07:09 PM	#2
DonLee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: HK Posts: 1,059	It's freshly serviced, I see no reason why the age would be a factor.

8 March 2023, 10:24 PM	#4
seadubs "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 246	How much are you paying? I wouldnt buy such an old one unless it was a really good deal

9 March 2023, 12:19 AM	#6
DavidSB 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: USA Posts: 197	I would not be concerned. Bought mine 10 years ago, wore it every day for years, serviced once, keeps great time and any parts with excessive wear will be replaced at future service.

9 March 2023, 12:27 AM	#7
vitalsigns "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: USA Posts: 535	No issue. Inspect it properly for visual imperfections and factor in a full service in the price you're willing to pay (if not recently serviced). The watch is made to last lifetimes, with periodic services.

9 March 2023, 12:36 AM	#8
Tan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Canada Watch: PP 5320G Posts: 1,258	No issues on a freshly serviced piece.

10 March 2023, 10:26 AM	#13
dannyp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: usa Posts: 6,765	Wow, did I ever misread the thread title!! I thought it was about someone buying their 14-year-old child a Patek

10 March 2023, 03:39 PM	#15
gqmagic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Near LA Posts: 244	I got this in May 2008, the original strap as developed somewhat of a Patina if you compared it to a new Composite strap, the dial looks like it did 15 years ago.

10 March 2023, 05:43 PM	#16
l_chissle "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Real Name: Chris Location: Germany Posts: 645	Personally would be totally fine with the watch, but would swap out for a new strap.

12 March 2023, 12:47 PM	#17
thetinkercompanies "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Real Name: Erich Location: Indiana Watch: AP,Hublot,Panerai Posts: 54	In terms of resale value, the age of the watch can be a factor, but again, it depends on its condition and how well it has been cared for. A well-maintained and serviced watch from 2009 could still be highly desirable to collectors, especially if it is a popular model like the Patek 5167A.

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